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Hello,

I am here in this group from 2015. Mainly working as a website developer and wordpress expert. Working in various marketplaces like Upwork, fiverr etc.

Now I want to business.For this I want to start dropshipping site. I watched few tutorials on Udemy for dropshipping. But what I watched there that it is very easy. Just pay for ads on facebook and you will get sales. Is it really like that I will averagely get sure profits?

I plan to use wordpress and Alidropship plugin for the dropshipping site. For more learning I am downloading tutorial of Adrian Morrison. I hope it will help me a lot to learn.

Fell free to suggest me.

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It’s not definite that you’ll get sales. You have to do testings over and over again. You have to find the right product, the right audience, and a website.

It sounds simple but you’re going to have to spend a lot of money at first testing.

Good luck!
 

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Just start a store right now. Don't waste time on learning from Youtube or Udemy or from any courses. You can start with 1 dollar.

1. Join the Shopify Partner Program. You can create unlimited development stores and don't need to pay until 50 sales.

2. Buy a 99 cent .com domain with a promo code from GoDaddy and connect it with your Shopify store.

3. Start your dropshipping journey and Google whatever you don't understand.

Don't pay for any ads at the start. If you can get sales from free advertising from social media (Instagram, Reddit, etc.), you know you are on the right track.

And yes, you will probably fail on your first store...and your second...and maybe your third.

But you will learn a lot more than from those courses.
 

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Just start a store right now. Don't waste time on learning from Youtube or Udemy or from any courses. You can start with 1 dollar.

1. Join the Shopify Partner Program. You can create unlimited development stores and don't need to pay until 50 sales.

2. Buy a 99 cent .com domain with a promo code from GoDaddy and connect it with your Shopify store.

3. Start your dropshipping journey.

Don't pay for any ads at the start. If you can get sales from free advertising from social media (Instagram, Reddit, etc.), you know you are on the right track.

And yes, you will probably fail on your first store...and your second...and maybe your third.

But you will learn a lot more than from those courses.
Drop shippong is is profitable like ot was before?
 

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Drop shippong is is profitable like ot was before?

Yes it is. But you have to have the right product. I find if you have a good product, you won't even need to pay for advertising.
 

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Just start a store right now. Don't waste time on learning from Youtube or Udemy or from any courses. You can start with 1 dollar.

1. Join the Shopify Partner Program. You can create unlimited development stores and don't need to pay until 50 sales.

2. Buy a 99 cent .com domain with a promo code from GoDaddy and connect it with your Shopify store.

3. Start your dropshipping journey and Google whatever you don't understand.

Don't pay for any ads at the start. If you can get sales from free advertising from social media (Instagram, Reddit, etc.), you know you are on the right track.

And yes, you will probably fail on your first store...and your second...and maybe your third.

But you will learn a lot more than from those courses.

Thanks for your suggestions.
But I know shopify development site don't support adding custom domain. then how can I add the domain fully workable with all pages?
 

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Thanks for your suggestions.
But I know shopify development site don't support adding custom domain. then how can I add the domain fully workable with all pages?
shopify does support custom domain
 

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As far as I know you're not able to use a custom domain in development mode. You also can't install paid apps.
 

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from shopify website

"Features and limitations of development stores
Development stores include most of the features that are available on the Advanced Shopify plan.

You can do the following while building and testing a development store:

  • Process an unlimited number of test orders (for example, by using the bogus gateway or the RESTAdmin API)
  • Process up to 50 non-test orders (for example, by completing a purchase through the online store using an active payment gateway)
  • Create an unlimited number of unique products
  • Create up to 10 private apps
  • Assign a custom domain
However, there are some things that you can't do with a development store until you switch it to a paid plan, such as:

  • Install paid apps (except for a selection of partner-friendly apps)"
 

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The theory itself is pretty simple, buy low sell high while actively pulling in traffic. However, in practice, it's all a numbers game. For each product I sell, I usually scrape prices off Amazon, eBay and Google shopping and find the average and minimum price. Then I check how many sales on eBay they've had in the past 3 months, as well as how many watchers. This tells me both what it sells for and the number of sales & interest. (It's fuzzy math. I rely on intuition a lot, and that comes with a lot of testing)

Once I have the initial research, I generally price somewhere in between the average price and the minimum price that I found, and start testing the product. If it's selling like hotcakes, I increase the price incrementally until sales start to slow. If it's barely or not selling at all, I incrementally lower the price until sales occur or the price drops so low that it's not worth it and I kill the campaign.

Since I have multiple products, niches, and stores, I use the Python programming language to automate most of the work. I would suggest that you look into that as well. It seems a bit overwhelming, but if you struggle through it, the rewards are huge.

The best way to learn, though, is through doing. Make sure you have a 'bank' of cash you can draw from if your sales money gets held up for some reason. This is probably the most important part. Shit happens, and you have to be prepared for it. Just make sure you find some sources that aren't claiming dropshipping is easy. It's better to learn from someone that is realistic and complex than someone that makes claims and only goes over the overview of the industry. Good luck on your journey!
 

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Don't be afraid to fail. If anything, you should aim to fail. You learn the most valuable lessons when failing. But, if one does not give up then, is it really failure? First. Attempt. At. Learning.
 

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To OP
Im a noob intermidiate dropshipper and I would LOVE a candid conversation with another person via Skype of discord
I'll pm you. saying so

The theory itself is pretty simple, buy low sell high while actively pulling in traffic. However, in practice, it's all a numbers game. For each product I sell, I usually scrape prices off Amazon, eBay and Google shopping and find the average and minimum price. Then I check how many sales on eBay they've had in the past 3 months, as well as how many watchers. This tells me both what it sells for and the number of sales & interest. (It's fuzzy math. I rely on intuition a lot, and that comes with a lot of testing)

Once I have the initial research, I generally price somewhere in between the average price and the minimum price that I found, and start testing the product. If it's selling like hotcakes, I increase the price incrementally until sales start to slow. If it's barely or not selling at all, I incrementally lower the price until sales occur or the price drops so low that it's not worth it and I kill the campaign.

Since I have multiple products, niches, and stores, I use the Python programming language to automate most of the work. I would suggest that you look into that as well. It seems a bit overwhelming, but if you struggle through it, the rewards are huge.

The best way to learn, though, is through doing. Make sure you have a 'bank' of cash you can draw from if your sales money gets held up for some reason. This is probably the most important part. Shit happens, and you have to be prepared for it. Just make sure you find some sources that aren't claiming dropshipping is easy. It's better to learn from someone that is realistic and complex than someone that makes claims and only goes over the overview of the industry. Good luck on your journey!

Just to clearify you use FB ads yeah?
Whats your budget looking like...in the beginning i threw like 100 bucks at fb but it seemed like a great puzzle then a noob should jump at with a 2k limit....
 

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To OP
Im a noob intermidiate dropshipper and I would LOVE a candid conversation with another person via Skype of discord
I'll pm you. saying so
Just to clearify you use FB ads yeah?
Whats your budget looking like...in the beginning i threw like 100 bucks at fb but it seemed like a great puzzle then a noob should jump at with a 2k limit....

I personally don't do my own advertising, my partner takes care of getting traffic to the store, and to be quite honest, I've never personally had success with FB ads since I'm new to the platform myself. I do know that throwing money at a wall isn't the solution, so I gave up doing it on my own. I know he's only drawing a couple hundred a month on ads, though. I do know the main way he keeps click-throughs up is through retargeting anyone that engages with the store with the FB pixel. My situation is a little different, too. I don't dropship from Ali. Instead, I work with warehouses here in the states, so issues such as shipping speed aren't a thing. That alone would change how to advertise and target potential customers since not shipping from China = higher purchase rate = less ad costs. I would see if I could find an answer from someone that is currently advertising on FB AND shipping from Ali for that info.
 

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I personally don't do my own advertising, my partner takes care of getting traffic to the store, and to be quite honest, I've never personally had success with FB ads since I'm new to the platform myself. I do know that throwing money at a wall isn't the solution, so I gave up doing it on my own. I know he's only drawing a couple hundred a month on ads, though. I do know the main way he keeps click-throughs up is through retargeting anyone that engages with the store with the FB pixel. My situation is a little different, too. I don't dropship from Ali. Instead, I work with warehouses here in the states, so issues such as shipping speed aren't a thing. That alone would change how to advertise and target potential customers since not shipping from China = higher purchase rate = less ad costs. I would see if I could find an answer from someone that is currently advertising on FB AND shipping from Ali for that info.

spicy even though your not the one to help.
thanks for the insight.

traffic seems to be my biggest dog.
Do you do any Email marketing? @Houdinii
 

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The theory itself is pretty simple, buy low sell high while actively pulling in traffic. However, in practice, it's all a numbers game. For each product I sell, I usually scrape prices off Amazon, eBay and Google shopping and find the average and minimum price. Then I check how many sales on eBay they've had in the past 3 months, as well as how many watchers. This tells me both what it sells for and the number of sales & interest. (It's fuzzy math. I rely on intuition a lot, and that comes with a lot of testing)

Once I have the initial research, I generally price somewhere in between the average price and the minimum price that I found, and start testing the product. If it's selling like hotcakes, I increase the price incrementally until sales start to slow. If it's barely or not selling at all, I incrementally lower the price until sales occur or the price drops so low that it's not worth it and I kill the campaign.

Since I have multiple products, niches, and stores, I use the Python programming language to automate most of the work. I would suggest that you look into that as well. It seems a bit overwhelming, but if you struggle through it, the rewards are huge.

The best way to learn, though, is through doing. Make sure you have a 'bank' of cash you can draw from if your sales money gets held up for some reason. This is probably the most important part. Shit happens, and you have to be prepared for it. Just make sure you find some sources that aren't claiming dropshipping is easy. It's better to learn from someone that is realistic and complex than someone that makes claims and only goes over the overview of the industry. Good luck on your journey!

Could you explain what you are specifically automating with Python?
 

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Could you explain what you are specifically automating with Python?
I have quite a few 'modules'.

For the research part, I have a database full of products I can sell based on vendor price lists. I also have a database of scraped products from Amz, eBay (with recent sales and watchers), and Google Shopping that match UPCs from my vendor database. This essentially spits out a list of products that sell for more than my breakeven price, but there are a gazillion signals it tracks. Like, if the price from the vendor drops fast, the price on eBay increases fast, or if the qty my vendor has drops at a certain rate signaling someone else is having success with a product.

Once I have my potential products, I choose which products look like winners and write out listings, gather pictures, etc. For this, the python scrapes product images and other's descriptions, but I generally rewrite it all and use it just to make sure I didn't miss anything. For me, more info generally means more sales. So I take what I wrote and the images I'm going to use (which have been altered by Python to make it original) and plop it into another database table along with tags, such as minimum sale price. Python then posts listings to my woocommerce store as well as marketplaces. I make a lot of mistakes, so I always double check manually before going live :/

A third module just monitors everything. If I get a sale, it alerts and saves the info to the db and sends the info to my vendor for shipping. It also sends out after sale e-mails. It also keeps track of my best buyers and spits a list of customers I may want to target with an e-mail campaign. I haven't been able to automate those e-mails, though, so I do a lot of that by hand. It also monitors for repricing. If everyone else drops in price, so will mine. If I run out of stock from the vendor it pauses the listing until it comes back into stock. If an item hasn't sold after 30 days, it'll reprice it lower incrementally until it hits the lowest value I'd accept, then it pauses the listing and alerts me.

The coolest feature, I think, is it'll try to determine if the item is part of a bundle. (I.e. other's sale price is way too high for the product, so it flags it as too expensive). I go through and see what others are bundling with it, and I do the same bundles myself. This is how I win on eBay hands down.

Overall, the only manual part is gathering the input info and hand-picking the products/writing listings. If I trusted the numbers more, I could in theory just trust it, but I'd certainly have less success.

spicy even though your not the one to help.
thanks for the insight.

traffic seems to be my biggest dog.
Do you do any Email marketing? @Houdinii

Absolutely. I don't myself, but I hand it all over to my partner. It accounts for almost all my repeat sales. Dropshipping without e-mail marketing is missing out on so many potential sales, and if done right, it's also one of the cheapest traffic methods. It's quite a bit advanced, but I use Amazon SES. They give you like 60,000 free e-mails a month with $0.01 per 100 e-mails after that. For 250,000 emails, that's only like $20 with my own contacts. The learning curve to getting it all running is hard as hell, though.
 
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I have quite a few 'modules'.

For the research part, I have a database full of products I can sell based on vendor price lists. I also have a database of scraped products from Amz, eBay (with recent sales and watchers), and Google Shopping that match UPCs from my vendor database. This essentially spits out a list of products that sell for more than my breakeven price, but there are a gazillion signals it tracks. Like, if the price from the vendor drops fast, the price on eBay increases fast, or if the qty my vendor has drops at a certain rate signaling someone else is having success with a product.

Once I have my potential products, I choose which products look like winners and write out listings, gather pictures, etc. For this, the python scrapes product images and other's descriptions, but I generally rewrite it all and use it just to make sure I didn't miss anything. For me, more info generally means more sales. So I take what I wrote and the images I'm going to use (which have been altered by Python to make it original) and plop it into another database table along with tags, such as minimum sale price. Python then posts listings to my woocommerce store as well as marketplaces. I make a lot of mistakes, so I always double check manually before going live :/

A third module just monitors everything. If I get a sale, it alerts and saves the info to the db and sends the info to my vendor for shipping. It also sends out after sale e-mails. It also keeps track of my best buyers and spits a list of customers I may want to target with an e-mail campaign. I haven't been able to automate those e-mails, though, so I do a lot of that by hand. It also monitors for repricing. If everyone else drops in price, so will mine. If I run out of stock from the vendor it pauses the listing until it comes back into stock. If an item hasn't sold after 30 days, it'll reprice it lower incrementally until it hits the lowest value I'd accept, then it pauses the listing and alerts me.

The coolest feature, I think, is it'll try to determine if the item is part of a bundle. (I.e. other's sale price is way too high for the product, so it flags it as too expensive). I go through and see what others are bundling with it, and I do the same bundles myself. This is how I win on eBay hands down.

Overall, the only manual part is gathering the input info and hand-picking the products/writing listings. If I trusted the numbers more, I could in theory just trust it, but I'd certainly have less success.



Absolutely. I don't myself, but I hand it all over to my partner. It accounts for almost all my repeat sales. Dropshipping without e-mail marketing is missing out on so many potential sales, and if done right, it's also one of the cheapest traffic methods. It's quite a bit advanced, but I use Amazon SES. They give you like 60,000 free e-mails a month with $0.01 per 100 e-mails after that. For 250,000 emails, that's only like $20 with my own contacts. The learning curve to getting it all running is hard as hell, though.


Awesome. Thanks for the insight. Looks like you have got everything covered.
 

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In my opinion one of the best ways to learn dropshipping is to go on Youtube and watch some videos. Just make sure to find good fellas who are not bullshiting with fake sales and giving a lot of value based on their experience, not the imagination. These days there are a lot of guys who actually know their stuff, show their ads manager, some of them even show the ads and products that they used to sell until it got saturated.

One of the greatest resources is Oberlo blog and their youtube channel. They really put their soul into the information they share.
 
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