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Avoiding Footprints To My Private Blog Network

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by parabellum2, Jul 7, 2014.

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  1. parabellum2

    parabellum2 Junior Member

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    Hi folks! I want to set up a Private Blog Network, and avoid footprints. The PROBLEM is that domains I want to buy have GERMAN TLD's. (.de), which do not offer WHOIS protection. Fake User Info is dangerous - Germans like to "report" fake info... I was adviced to use different TLD (eu/com/net), but it still would be a footprint, if user data is the same? What would you suggest?
     
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    1. Use spyder spanker plugin.

    2. Use decent quality articles on your PBN blogs.

    3. Never interlink PBN sites.

    4. Keep your anchors in check.
     
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    parabellum2 Junior Member

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    Thanks man, but did you read my question? I am talking about a SPECIFIC Footprint: the User Info when registering a domain! I cannot use the WHOIS protection. Is there a workaround?
     
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    Spread out and transfer domains to your relatives accounts ( which you control all)
     
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    parabellum2 Junior Member

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    Yes, I thought about it as well, good idea. Do you think it's a problem, if we live in the same house and adress and share the sirname?
     
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    use fake details. but if your registrar finds out, they have the right to seize your domains.
     
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    you seem to have answered your own question really, there isn't a work-around, you either use fake info and risk being caught out, or use correct info and risk being caught.

    Best thing to do is use .com's and others where you can add privacy
     
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    Not sure what your country offers but setting up a business name here in the USA, in Florida specifically, is pretty cheap and maybe that would be a workaround for you.
     
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    Thanks my friends for answers! It takes me eons to decide in those situations... Regarding .com domains: I would love to do so, but I am trying to rank German sites and videos, so do you think it will still work? If I buy a COM domain with excellent backlink profile (but all english/american) and then go an put German website on it -> will it be usefull to rank German stuff?
     
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    BassTrackerBoats - unfortunately they need the Admin-c to have a German adress.. So what do you think, if I buy a COM domain with excellent backlink profile (but all english/american) and then go an put German website on it -> will it be usefull to rank German stuff?
     
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    In my experience, the country/language-specific TLD weightings of the past are no longer as important as they once were. The prevalence of vanity domains like "bit.ly" (Libya) have made it more complicated. I am confident if your Money Site is a .COM in German and you've used all the HTML markup to declare it is German there will be little difference to the same site being hosted on a .DE

    In terms of building a PBN, the best way to start is research! Check existing authority sites and look to emulate their backlink profile, here is a quick Moz of www.spiegel.de

    Screen Shot 2014-07-07 at 17.36.15.jpg

    Only 16% of their backlinks are from .DE

    On the other end of the scale here is another report for a random computer-retailer in Germany where 61% of the backlinks are coming from .DE

    Screen Shot 2014-07-07 at 17.44.19.jpg


    So crudely piecing this together with 2 data points. If I were Google and just discovered your Money Site and it had between 15-60% of backlinks coming from .DE it would appear "natural" because I see that pattern all the time. If your site had 100% .DE links it would be suspicious/unnatural.

    Summary:
    * Put your money site on a .DE domain, cant hurt
    * Aim to build 33% of your backlinks from .DE domains (either existing sites you can create/buy links from, or your own PBN domains)
    * Build the remaining 66% backlinks with a mix of .COM/.ORG/.NET and some local/regional ones .AT/.FR/.BE/.NL etc.

    Now you only have 1/3rd of the domains to worry about registration details, because the rest of your PBN can be on other TLD's :cool:
     
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    ikstob - wow, this is some great input, thanks for your time! I am surprised about spiegel having lots of COM backlinks! Cool. I actually already have lots and lots of DE backlinks from forums/blogs/QnA sites, so now I really could just go and use .com for the rest. BUT I just checked the first 100 COM backlinks of spiegel, in google SERPs - and they ALL have German content. So - the question is still, whether COM sites of my PBN with backlinks from sites with non-German content will still be effective. I try to answer this quesion. If you have any thoughts, please let me know.
     
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    How many of them are you looking to buy. You could always mix everything up rather then going it all the same.
     
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    Normalizer: I don't know yet... something between 5 and 15. Maybe a good solution would be to have 2 DE domains and the rest COM. Still - the question remains, whether COM sites of a PBN with backlinks from sites with non-German content would make sense for ranking German stuff.
     
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    Hey, yes to build on my earlier answer obviously Googlebots can recognise languages - even more so if you declare the language used in the markup: http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_language_codes.asp

    As for an absolute measure of "whats best?", it is hard to tell without deconstructing how Google's algorithm works in more detail, rather than trying to do that I would suggest going with a mix, e.g.

    - 2 x .DE domains with German content
    - 1 x .AT domain with German content
    - 2 x .COM domains with German content
    - 5 x .COM domains with English content
    - 5 x Any of .ORG/.NET/.UK/ etc. with English content

    This gives you 1/3rd of backlinks with German content, and 2/3rds of backlinks with English (or other) languages. Your journey would make a great case study, I heartily recommend you write it down somewhere Evernote/Word/Notepad as a fellow European I would be interested to see how you get on!

    Either way, don't build them all at once, focus on quality content and backlinks to your PBN. Try to find expired domains with good metrics (have patience, and a backorder service) I just lost on a PR4 while writing my earlier reply :D
     
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    ikstob - another great stuff, thanks! Your suggestion sounds very working. Nice experiment ;) for the expired domains I have thece criteria: 1) DA19+ and PA 20+ 2) Trustflow 19+ and Citationflow 20+ 3) no spammy backlinks (guestposts, interlinking of other pbns) and no pharm/adult stuff, 4) ideally the site didn't change hands too often 5) age: 2009 or better 6) ideally keyword related 7) I do NOT care much about whether the site was dropped long time ago, because even if I catch one before expiring, who knows, how often it got dropped and left unregistered in the past.... What do you think? SORRY FOR YOUR LOST PR4 Site ! ;)
     
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    first buy domain then transfer on other site i mean godaddy or name .com it will work
     
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    I think its a good idea to get them registered under different members of your family so it minimizes footprints.
     
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    Yes, definitely, I want to do it. Just there is one problem - we all live in the same house, same adress, same sirname ;) But better than nothing..
     
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