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His BHA method is pretty Ace! Money can be made with that puppy. He had another method he created on his forum. Some people were able to make it work, some weren't.

Apparently he himself can't make money "with that puppy".

Charging people 2k for a method is disgraceful. I know that others charge more than 2K ... and I find it even more disgraceful.

Seriously, I would warn anyone here against paying much of anything for a "method".

I hope that such products will be disallowed from the BST forum. Such snake oil has no place here.
 
I think it was Wealthy's Avatar blinking that 'send me money now' subliminalesque msg that was the real closer in his sales message.
 
I really feel bad for everyone who got taken for $$ with this. If you need a method BHW has hundreds just find 1 and spin it and make it your own. Please don't pay for coaching you have everything you need in this site. Now if you just need to ask a question because you not sure of something make a post or you can PM me and if I'm able I'll help you any way I can. Bottom line nobody has a magic method that works for everyone so why risk your cash.
 
Personally, I'd like to see us going back to a model whereby we share ideas, rather than sell them.

I know that selling methods is big business here. I'd like to see the selling of methods/ideas curtailed.
 
Sinewave I am with you 100% about selling methods, tbh I don't think it can be done as why would you sell something that makes you $$$$$$, in reality you'd only really to let your friends in on the secret. Thats why I don't believe in these coaching programs.

I say you should all go for chargebacks now on your credit cards, don't let him get away with it!
 
No this has not got sorted out, and being that it's been 2 months now since we've had word from him, well you do the math.

It was apparent to me at least, that shortly after I joined that alex didn't really know his shit in the first place... Being that I was new to ppv and such at the time I didn't know the ins and outs either, so everything he had told me I just agreed with. But once I became more aware is when the red flags start showing up.

My conclusion is that BHA may or may not have worked for some, but the "methods" or "system" in which he tried to teach us in this coaching was just pure BS. It took me a few weeks to figure that out and by that time he "seemingly" disappeared off the face of the earth, otherwise I'd have requested a refund immediately. Oh well you live and you learn and you can believe I'm much more guarded as to what I spend my money on than before.
 
Just want to qualify my previous post. While I do think the selling of methods should be severely curtailed here, I am more than happy with my DominateIM membership; it tends to kick me in the ass and inspire me to do some research even when I'm dead tired so that I'm full of my own new ideas. I've heard great things about BHU from very reliable sources too.

That said, I think the selling of methods from unproven vendors here should endure extra scrutiny as I don't know of many that could actually withstand it, especially for the prices I've seen.

Just my .02

Edit: I know Wealthy was considered a "proven vendor" for no other reason that he was 1) an Exec VIP, and 2) a moderator. I guess all of us are learning hard lessons about trust and perception as we move forward.
 
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LOL! Nice to know all the money he received from us he blew it away in, what, 2 months? He made 100k last year...About like 20-30k had to be the mastermind money.

I just want my money back. Screw the 1 month coaching. I think the only things this guy knows is BHA and that other method he was pushing on his mastermind forum.
 
lol, well if he is 17 years old now then he was a 16 year old kid then, charging people $2k a pop for coaching... that is pretty insane. i'm sure if people knew his age that would factor into their decision of if they want to pay $2k a pop for his 'coaching'.

i'm not saying there aren't mature, responsible, 16 year old kids... but more times then not you'll see exactly what happened here, an immature 16 year old kid.

buyer beware.
 
This is outrageous!

Given that it isn't possible to enter into a contract with a minor, I wonder if there are legal avenues you guys can be taking to get your $2K back? I hope you're all angry enough to ruin his new little venture and on-line reputation in whatever way necessary......
 
interesting - what do we do? let him try and rip some other gullible fools off in order to refund us all as promised? I mean I see it as important spike in my learning curve - the moment I realised how daft I had been to trust this guy. Who are we to interfere with nature and stop other wannabe IMers learning this important lesson? especially with the getsomeorevenallofyourmoneyback carrot being dangled infront of us... clever stuff. Might it be that he wants us to ruin this venture so he can use the excuse "well i tried to get your money back but you ruined it".

Oooh the irony of it all is so bewildering...

And thats before I even begin to consider this whole 17 year old thing.. can a 17 year old even hold a paypal account?
 
17? He's mature for his age though, however why would anyone spend so much damn money like that? O_O I really thought he would know better. I think instead of another coaching program he should use his methods to pay you all back. I think someone should advise him properly, he doesn't know what to do.

::edit:: Paying K/'s for e-books is a crazy idea, hope you all learned that. There's absoluety nothing anybody here or elsewhere knows that cannot be obtained for free, and if you are to lazy to research yourself chances are you won't even implement anything you've "learned" in these e-books which you've dried your bank account for.
 
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I know a couple of members here know him on a personal basis.
Am not at liberty to be saying names.
 
Well im a fellow kiwi and have worked with Alex in the past. There were no hassles, i truly believe he just honestly fucked up. What we need is a list of the people who lost their money and how much he has paid back. And 17? So what? Harro made 22k in one day when he was 12. I say give him a chance, at least he came back. I mean if he really wanted to just scam people he wouldnt start a new blog with his name age and location would he?

This shit needs to be planned out and organized.
 
Hey just suggest you to fire a complaint on paypal for this stuff and also find his address and email and tell bhw to get his ip details so you may find him

Certainly not necessary.

Alex stated on his new blog he is working hard to pay everyone he owes back.
 
NOT NECESSARY??????

The list of broken promises from Alex is endless. I think you underestimate just how angry people are that their money was stolen. This latest "promise" to pay back what is owed is pure crap.

This "boy" does not deserve to maintain his on-line reputation. He's a criminal.
 
He's legally under age to enter into contracts, you need to take legal action against his parents if I am correct :)

I'm sure they've got a house thats up for the taking...
 
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