Apps journey to 2k/day within a year

HustleTong said:

I guess you're using admob. If yes, does banner or interstitial convert better?

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My admob was limited. I am using FAN.
Thanks

hi how can i edit the admob sdk for BH purpose ( i have some experience on java) , thank you

Good Luck , I'll be watching your journey.
What Monetization you intend to use

You mentioned a few times about ASO.
Besides that, how are you driving traffic to your apps?

Are you actually doing paid marketing and such? If so whats your budget like for those?

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i noticed you mentioned in your recent post that youre spending 5$/day on an app. Is that a WH ap that you are investing in for marketing?

Also, in this particular app how have you monetized it? banner/interstitial ads?

lastly, and this is a vague question but when you launch a new app the downloads are zero. Is there a certain number of active downloads etc that you try to get to asap where you feel like its turning you a profit?

Nice the see more warrior in app store giving google no choice but to let them succeed.
I was wondering how do u do to find good niche .. Praticale way

elgharibe said:

hi how can i edit the admob sdk for BH purpose ( i have some experience on java) , thank you

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My theory is to reverse engineer the sdk(google this) and edit it, if malware analyzers fail to detect that, which they might because there are many types of obfuscators so its not easy to know if the sdk is tampered with.

Aegon said:

Good Luck , I'll be watching your journey.
What Monetization you intend to use

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Thanks. Admob is the best, but it got limited on this app so i will use FAN for now. Will use multiple ad networks once i start getting good installs numbers.

devmandarkk said:

Besides that, how are you driving traffic to your apps?

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Niche, organic

devmandarkk said:

Are you actually doing paid marketing and such? If so whats your budget like for those?

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No, never done. I just started on this app. The first app i released i made some friends install it, and i thought why not just push initial installs usin g facebook ads. Since i had a VCC that failed when i tried to buy a google dev account

devmandarkk said:

i noticed you mentioned in your recent post that youre spending 5$/day on an app. Is that a WH ap that you are investing in for marketing?

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Bh app, but its not easy to see its blackhat.

devmandarkk said:

Also, in this particular app how have you monetized it? banner/interstitial ads?

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Banner and interstitial. 25% earnings from banner, banners are not useless for t2 countries after all.

devmandarkk said:

lastly, and this is a vague question but when you launch a new app the downloads are zero. Is there a certain number of active downloads etc that you try to get to asap where you feel like its turning you a profit?

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I dont quite understand this question. In this niche if the app is ranked for top new free, then i know its going to work, i am trying to use an old google dev acc so traffic comes faster, and pushing quality traffic in the first week. Niche is already great so if app is indexed it will get installs fast

deloe said:

Nice the see more warrior in app store giving google no choice but to let them succeed.
I was wondering how do u do to find good niche .. Praticale way

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Warrior, i love that. I find a good niche by looking at other apps in the play store, i mainly scour the play store and see good apps that look like they are getting installs and check them more on appbrain. Then just try to figure out the source of traffic


UPDATE:
Second app is at 50+ installs but still not indexed for some reason, not sure yet. I have updated the graphics, some aso optimizations remaining. Not as productive as i should be, tomorrow i should finish some freelance works in the morning and release the third app in the best niche. And then fourth app on another niche. Dont forget that yoga, take some rest, and read. I was watching this video of mooji on what it means to be egoless and wow its just out of this world. Some deep mysteries in that video

Earnings:

Today, it will definitely pass 250$, expecting 270$+



Why does earning money feel so good? Lol. I saw this bible verse in another thread the other day. Its from part of the book usually praised for its exceptional wisdom, from Solomon the wise king.

"A feast is made for laughter, wine makes life merry, and money is the answer for everything." - Ecclesiastes 10:19

How much time it take app to be profitable since the time u publish it..
Also is that normal that apps dont appear in research in first 's days .. if so should u run ads to make it appear !

deloe said:

How much time it take app to be profitable since the time u publish it..
Also is that normal that apps dont appear in research in first 's days .. if so should u run ads to make it appear !

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Depends on the niche, some apps get good installs in few days/weeks, some you have to wait, but i prefer the fast ones. In this particular niche, i waited about 2 weeks for the app to reach 10k installs. But you can also accelerate the speed using different marketing than organic. Thats what i am gonna do now.


UPDATE:

Yesterday earnings: 295$
Today's projected: ~280$+

Other app is at 100+ installs, pushing push traffic and t1/t2 facebook ads, i believe its getting organic and is ranked at top new free. This app will probably also reach 10k installs at least 2 weeks later, if not suspended. Going to release third app in old account now. I am gonna use this third account to also release another app in different niche, i think its the same tactics used to rank both apps. Oh and i saw the app i reverse engineered is suspended at 1m+ installs, but i think i know why they are suspended, these apps might survive, we will see.

Good luck, it's pretty interesting to follow you.

I want to clarify the question.
It is very interesting to understand how this all works.
1. You publish an application, for example, "download music/awesome wallpaper"
2. Advertise on Facebook
3. Using traffic from Facebook + ASO get install
4. People use the application and watch ads.
So do you make money?

Unfortunately I can not ask in PM, me need 15 messages.
thanks you

are you making accounts by yourself or you buying those?
could you tell me from where do you buy google dev accounts? or VCC s?

Soare said:

Good luck, it's pretty interesting to follow you.

I want to clarify the question.
It is very interesting to understand how this all works.
1. You publish an application, for example, "download music/awesome wallpaper"
2. Advertise on Facebook
3. Using traffic from Facebook + ASO get install
4. People use the application and watch ads.
So do you make money?

Unfortunately I can not ask in PM, me need 15 messages.
thanks you

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Thanks.
Exactly, only i started using facebook ads last week, and the results have not been that satisfactory, i think i need more budget to have significant results.

webmasterpro said:

are you making accounts by yourself or you buying those?
could you tell me from where do you buy google dev accounts? or VCC s?

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I am not making accs by myself, buying from a supplier. I cant tell you where i buy accounts because that would accelerate the rate the accounts stop working. Sorry

UPDATE: Just released the fourth app. Ecpm decreased by 30%, even though there's an increase in traffic(~25k installs/day), earnings from FAN are still around $260-290$. Hopefully, ecpm will recover in February. https://www.mediavine.com/ad-revenue-seasons/

Thinking of switching category and adding some blackhat keywords when app reaches 400k-500k installs, if this doesnt suspend the app, i expect it will triple my traffic.

GENERAL TO DO:
Release with different source for this niche
Choose white hat niches, or nearly white hat niches and release them in a couple of old accounts.
Execute what you know about traffic on all the apps released and yet to be released, and aim for 10m, 50m.. installs
Consider releasing games, getting traffic is the same story.
Take care of yourself.

how do make multiple account without been detected by google fingerprint?
could you explain it in details.

sweeside said:

I am not making accs by myself, buying from a supplier. I cant tell you where i buy accounts because that would accelerate the rate the accounts stop working. Sorry

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oh ok. how much do you pay for an account?

deloe said:

how do make multiple account without been detected by google fingerprint?
could you explain it in details.

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Some people use different residential proxies with cc cleaner, some people use different vmwares with different 4g ips, some rent dev accounts via teamviewer, some people use cheap vpses.. etc. I cant give any more details because its not good for people already using them Some idiot a few weeks ago shared snapchat method and now its dead because of it

webmasterpro said:

oh ok. how much do you pay for an account?

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I use to pay 50$, but now i am not really buying accounts, when i need to buy i will try some vcc first or if i have enough money i will just buy from my supplier cause he's a good guy ..

Question, anybody has any experience with tricking cpi ad networks? I feel like its easy to increase the ecpm by installing a few apps
Also, haha i tested push notifications and within 5 minutes, or 1.5k sessions, i got about 20 installs. But the number might be bigger than this, will be testing more. The last app was terminated after i forgot to turn off the push notifications driving installs to it, and now i am a bit phobic/paranoid about doing push again. Haha but its probably just fear.

Earnings: Already passed 305$ today with .5$ ecpm, but might decrease if ecpm tanks dramatically. And wtf.. startapp ecpm decreasing daily.. it was 1$ a month ago now its at 0.16$ and decreasing

EARNINGS UPDATE:

Yesterday: 325$+

400/500$ will easily be passed about a week later, or earlier if the ecpm increases to .6 or.7

How do you get so much organic installs? I've tried keyword installs etc and none of them work. Well at first they worked then eventually the rankings dropped.

I am also amazed with how you get so many organic installs?

Are you just targeting niches where theres super low competition?

What about the apps themselves. What are they like? Are they actually useful apps that people use? What level of polish do these apps have?

sweeside said:

EARNINGS UPDATE:

Yesterday: 325$+

400/500$ will easily be passed about a week later, or earlier if the ecpm increases to .6 or.7

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Congrats my friend
I am very happy for you

What are you stats now ?
How many apps you got live in the store ?

atari2001 said:

Nice Journey, I wish you good luck with it

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Thanks

leeahsing said:

How do you get so much organic installs? I've tried keyword installs etc and none of them work. Well at first they worked then eventually the rankings dropped.

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devmandarkk said:

I am also amazed with how you get so many organic installs?
Are you just targeting niches where theres super low competition?

What about the apps themselves. What are they like? Are they actually useful apps that people use? What level of polish do these apps have?

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The answer is simple: Find the right niche. And optimize your ASO.

I usually aim for high competition keywords. Oh and yeah apps are useful and polished(aso), they have 40-50% retention with HEAVY advertising.

Mobime said:

Congrats my friend
I am very happy for you

What are you stats now ?
How many apps you got live in the store ?

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Thanks mate

I have about 5 apps, most less than 10k installs. Just released 3/4 apps in the new great niche thats earning the money

UPDATE:

Earnings have increased a bit but the ecpm tanked for the last few days, its getting back up now but the installs is stuck at about 26-28k/day so we will see how it goes. Other apps are getting organics but its not that much, i am gonna try to optimize the store listings for them right now. Also, i am procrastinating and not as healthy and productive as i should be, i must change.

Are you using banner and interstitial? Or also video/rewarded ads?

Thanks so much for the valuable information.

Thanks