theconscience
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Anyone here use persuasive speech?
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I never thought to read from frogs to princes. I remember it coming up in the book: The Game, when the author was going through seduction training. The reviews look pretty interesting. I know what I'm getting for my birthday now lol. Just want to say thanks for this post and that it has been informative. If you ever do decide to write a tutorial I'll be glad to read it. There's book smarts and then there's street smarts. I want to know and learn it all.
voljin
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@BreaknBrix: I know there is a thanks button, but I feel that I need to post this. Thank you very much for enlighten me. I'm hesitant to try nlp despite lot of people suggest it, but since reading this thread and your post, I'll give it a go.
And if you have time, please post your tutorial.
PS: I've managed to get those 3 book you recommend (don't ask how
), should I share it in BHW?
And if you have time, please post your tutorial.
PS: I've managed to get those 3 book you recommend (don't ask how
), should I share it in BHW?
Scraper9
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PS: I've managed to get those 3 book you recommend (don't ask how
Go on mate share them, I bet a lot of people will benefit from those books. I know for a fact that these stuff works.
i've been doing NLP and conversational hypnosis for 7+ years, the idea that there are magic words that sell is total B.S i write sales pages and it always take a unique approach depending on the quality of traffic, presell and the buyer intent and market sophistication. words only makes the speech flows naturally but it's how you appeal to people's problem that matter.
I got one of them from TPB. Just looked up NLP and it was a torrent with a library full of nlp pdfs
N there's a Sales Persuasion Section??????????? I didn't even know. Has this always been so?
johnny1221
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The pdf is free online. Just look up nlp for dummies pdf
srb888
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Jordan Belfort ftw! I love him.
On a related note, one of the things I remember from another source is that if you do persuade someone to do something, i..e follow me on twitter, you can actually convert more people by underlining it, i.e. "Follow me on Twitter here."
On a related note, one of the things I remember from another source is that if you do persuade someone to do something, i..e follow me on twitter, you can actually convert more people by underlining it, i.e. "Follow me on Twitter here."
ChanzGrande
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I am a professional copywriter, and I agree this is all just bullshit. Although they can definitely create certain frames of mind, and they are how we paint people into the corner to buy products - words are nothing particularly useful in absence of a concrete sales strategy ... but that does typically employ some "pretty" or well-written phrases and content. Just because something reads well doesn't mean it's a trigger word or forces people to take some action. The job of a copywriter is often to move a prospect from cold interest to hot frothy desire to buy, thus we typically use motivational words/phrases.
The reason I say it's bullshit is because guru types and/or (personality ethics) pushers always mislead people by leaving out that it isn't their compelling words that sell people, but much more their compelling personalities.(Frank Kern does come to mind, even though I still find a lot of his general information to be very GOOD)
What you need to do with copywriting is determine what action/actions you want your end-user to take, and then you need to lay a bread crumb trail that leads ONLY to that action. Sure you do this with words, images, sound and/or video and ultimately this is a sales script, but ... it's not magic. It's meticulous and carefully crafted to hopefully appeal to the largest cross-section of demographics an offer will be marketed to.
There is no magic recipe. Of course there are guides/templates and/or swipe copy, etc... But in the end it always come down to a unique vision of what will appeal to the target demographic. That's about a lot more than some clever words. The practical elements of well written copy always far outnumber the persuasive words, but compelling copy always contains some elements of motivating end-users to take action.
The reason I say it's bullshit is because guru types and/or (personality ethics) pushers always mislead people by leaving out that it isn't their compelling words that sell people, but much more their compelling personalities.(Frank Kern does come to mind, even though I still find a lot of his general information to be very GOOD)
What you need to do with copywriting is determine what action/actions you want your end-user to take, and then you need to lay a bread crumb trail that leads ONLY to that action. Sure you do this with words, images, sound and/or video and ultimately this is a sales script, but ... it's not magic. It's meticulous and carefully crafted to hopefully appeal to the largest cross-section of demographics an offer will be marketed to.
There is no magic recipe. Of course there are guides/templates and/or swipe copy, etc... But in the end it always come down to a unique vision of what will appeal to the target demographic. That's about a lot more than some clever words. The practical elements of well written copy always far outnumber the persuasive words, but compelling copy always contains some elements of motivating end-users to take action.
