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Any Music Marketing Experts?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Rockstar10, Oct 19, 2013.

  1. Rockstar10

    Rockstar10 Registered Member

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    Hi Guys,

    Are there any Music "Marketing Experts" here on Blackhatworld.com? I do a lot of music marketing and I´ve already found some ways how to gain sales, for example. However, there are a lot of other things I would like to know more about (How to get Streams, how to market music videos, etc.). Feel free to contact me, if you know a lot about this, or work for a major label. ;)

    Yours,
    Rockstar10
     
  2. Matthew1992

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    im really good with marketing music videos and social media. but my itunes sales suck. trade knowledge?
     
  3. Aegroeg

    Aegroeg Regular Member

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    Never you mind.
    I know a few self taught methods, but they arent fast and easy! And are quite obvious.

    For me regardless of what site I am on, I find like-minded artists and I contact them. Build a rapport, get them to listen to me, I listen to them, etc. It gives you some genuine followers and friendships, and when they add you their friends check you out. This certainly works for Facebook, Soundcloud and Youtube.
     
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    Own lot of Social Media Properties of Music Celebrities on FB
     
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    GreenGoblin BANNED BANNED

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    depends on what type of music u trying to market, I would need to know more before i can chime in
     
  6. SpiderBlast

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    I've been producing for 14 years, own my own home studio, and have been a member on various music forums for over a decade. So music is one of my niches. However, I don't "market music", I market other things related to music like kits, samples, software, etc etc.

    If you're actually trying to sell music, that is something I don't believe in. Just from what I've seen over the years, it is not profitable and its one of the worst ways to make money online. And I'm being dead serious when I say this. I know some VERY talented artists, EXTREMELY talented who can't even sell their shit. In fact, I'd be willing to be that 99.6% of music producers will never be able to make a living from selling their music.

    Its usually the DJs or record labels who get most the money, and there are numerous examples of this.

    Look at Andy Blueman for example. This is a young guy with tons of talent. He had put thousands of hours into his
    tracks, he's a brilliant trance producer, had some tracks hit the top 100, had a large following, and in a personal
    interview he stated that over his 2-3 year career, he had only made like $350 from selling his music. Meanwhile,
    the DJ's playing his music were making all the money along with his record label.

    He is just one example of thousands of talented producers, who wind up not making a penny from their music.

    In fact, I wouldn't even promote the music of a well established artist like Lady Gaga. Even if she told me she'd
    give me 100% commissions on sales.... I still wouldn't sell her music. For a music artist to actually make a living,
    they need to do tons of performances, and they have to reach a status that is virtually impossible for 99% of
    artists to hit. Not to mention, the music industry is hugely political. Connections and who you know play a
    major role in someone becoming famous. And if you're not famous, you're not making a living from selling your
    music.

    I'd much rather DJ for a living, or sell music equipment, software, samples, kits and sounds than sell songs.

    Why? Because its 1000000xs easier to make money that way.

    Call me pessimistic, but I know the music industry fairly well, and there is no money in selling music.
    I'm not saying its impossible, I'm saying its the closest thing to impossible that you can think of. =]

    -SB
     
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    This depends on the genre you are trying to market. Social networking tends to work good for promoting music and a lot of
    people go that route. I have found it more profitable to find some local rapper with a little money in his pocket and offer him a
    personal website package and some social ads to get a CD sold of his.
     
  8. Aegroeg

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    Never you mind.
    I hold out on the hope that I can make a very small side earning on selling beats for Youtube videos and indie games.

    My brother in laws best mate was offered £80,000 for a riff he made. £80K!! He made it on Garage band and claims that by the time the record label had reproduced it, the only thing left was the original bassline.

    I dream of this happening to me. Literally. lmao
     
  9. Rockstar10

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    Hello Spiderblast,

    thanks for your long answer... You´re totally right, I´ve been in the music business for quite some time, and I know, that selling music is not profitable at all. I also agree, that the music industry is hugely political.. I know some artists, who´ve been in charts, and they still don´t have any airplay, since they aren´t from a major label..

    Yours,
    Rockstar10