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ALGORITHM UPDATE - What to Expect From the Next Algo Update!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by PartyNeon, Jul 10, 2012.

  1. PartyNeon

    PartyNeon Regular Member Premium Member

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    I read an interesting post on a Stanford students SEO Blog. It talks about future things that might be in the next "Zebra" algorithm update:
    http://www.seobiology.com/algorithm-update/


    Summary of the Off Site Things Mentioned in the post:
    • Class C to IP Ratio used to detect black hat
    • TLD Composition to check for natural linking
    • Ratio of Referring Domains to Number of Different Anchors
    • Average number of links per ref domain
    • Ratio of inbound Web 2.0 Links to ref domains
    • Link Velocity / Link Acquisition Rate

    The post discussed a variety of different things that Google could use to detect spam tactics, and how to prevent them. Do you think the things he mentioned are legit?

    Summary of the On-Site Things Mentioned:
    • Analyzing Social Reach vs Social Shares
    • Better at Penalizing Spun Content (It talked about how they'll detect it)
    • Number of Pages Getting Traffic will be used to effect rankings
    • Number of Searches That your Branded Keyword / Website Name Gets
    • User Metrics: Time on Site, Dwell Time, CTR will have more influence
    • Number of Long Tail keywords ranking

    Its an interesting post... definitely worth a 5 minute read. http://www.seobiology.com/algorithm-update/ Seems like a fairly new blog. I'll keep you guys posted if I find anything else interesting.

    Is the stuff in the post true?
    Could everything in this post be true? If so, I need to start being a bit more social and watch some of my tactics, haha.
     
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  2. PartyNeon

    PartyNeon Regular Member Premium Member

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    It should be worth mentioning that there is another thing on the site... a list of all the possible penalties. Seems interesting also.
     
  3. ja1myn

    ja1myn Senior Member

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    You know, with all these new things that Google is looking for (specifically the mix up of TLDs and all these specific ratios of things), it sort of takes away from how "natural" a site's backlinking portfolio looks, doesn't it?

    Thank you for sharing. I am going to continue reading this later and post any further comments when I am back.
     
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    TheBlueWizard Junior Member

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    Gotta love how much resource and time big G spends just to prevent automation.
     
  5. niggy

    niggy Junior Member

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    Ratio of inbound Web 2.0 Links to ref domains...shit just got real.
     
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  6. THECEO

    THECEO BANNED BANNED

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    I don't see it as true. Not yet. The more of these theory posts that are made only gives Google more ideas to use. :hurt:
     
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    Irukichan Registered Member

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    I'm not sure that this could be legitimately done. I know 100% whitehat authority sites that have the majority of their backlinks from free blogging domains. Of course, it's not like Google really cares who gets caught in the crossfire, but it seems like it would be very difficult to do.
     
  8. Leith

    Leith Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Well said!
     
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  9. ActionTaker

    ActionTaker Power Member

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    Social reach would be so abusable.. I think a lot of the could potentially be included but I still feel that by putting too much weight on these factors, they'd create a huge spot for abusing it.. We all know that they'll get better at detecting spun content, but we're also all trying to improve the quality of what we pump out.. Link velocity.. Isn't that old school? I don't see any potential killers among that list..
     
  10. kideze

    kideze Elite Member

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    I think this will take time to implement everything but they are def on to a lot of things
     
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    DisguiseMarketing Junior Member

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    ha i almost lost it when i read this...but seriously...i always thought that they'd match up the ref domains that showed up in analytics, to linking domains...it would only make sense.
     
  12. BlueOrchard

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    But no seriously. This might kill my authority site once and for all :(
     
  13. gundamwing

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    lot of theory these day
     
  14. madoctopus

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    Why do people always pu words in Google's mouth? Everybody cried that Panda was a content-oriented algorithm. Google must laugh his ass off how some dumb SEOs misread what they said. To my knowledge, Google never ever said they will or can detect spun content. As a matter of fact properly spun content is undetectable. there is no fucking way to detect is an article came from spintax using an algorithm. A human can figure it out because of the strange expressions that pop. also in theory it is possible to detect simple 1-level spun content but with a very low confidence metric and at huge computational cost.

    How the fuck would you know they use an algorithm similar to copyscape? Google's architecture is not the same.

    That alone tells you absolutely nothing.

    Spun content made by retarded monkeys might not be fool-proof but spun content made by a sober octopus is. As a matter of fact at this point google can't even spot 100% unreadable computer generated content reliably, so don't tell me they can spot manually spun content.

    "A teacher that gives you incorrect answers is by far worse than one who admits he doesn't know the answer" - MadOctopus
     
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  15. Colonel Tuxedo

    Colonel Tuxedo Newbie

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    Chaos and indignation.

    But seriously, none of these metrics are new. These criteria have been used by their manual review team for ~2 years or more. They seem to be more focused on trying to implement these algorithmically now, but that wasn't hard to predict.
     
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    Time to go get that truck driver license lol.
     
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    His site structure sucks. Nice theme though.
     
  18. PartyNeon

    PartyNeon Regular Member Premium Member

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    I see some of the flaws with detecting spun content. But the fact holds true, Google will use some of the more algorithmically orientated methods to penalize sites.

    It never hurts to take caution.