Advantages Web 2.0s vs. Private Blog Network

CanadianDollar said:
Step 4) Use niche relevant blogs that you actually read then post comments on them (With your web 2.0s within the URL field) - This'll get them indexed fast, and though most blogs will be NoFollow it can pass link juice
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Are you talking about the other dof0ll0w links when you speak about juice links or about the nofollow ones? I dont see how a no follow link can pass link juice
 
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Everybody gives a little different answer.

My experience is that even web 2.0 may give you nice boost in low competition niches. And I mean without additional tiers.
 
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Paulie W said:
Are you talking about the other dof0ll0w links when you speak about juice links or about the nofollow ones? I dont see how a no follow link can pass link juice
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Nope, nofollow won't pass juice but even some of my favorite blogs have CommentLuv or something similar in-place to pass juice with a ******** link :)
 
PBN links have more weight as they come from pages with high authroity. Both of these link types have their pros and cons, but I would recommend considering another option too - links from established sites. They have high authrity, just like PBN links, but sites these links are placed on are not rebuilt sites for PBN purposes, but real world sites. Great solution for long term approach.
 
Here I want to be short with some basic difference.

In web2.0 we can create site free and getting subdomain.
In PBN we want to buy hosting and domain as well here we getting routdomain.
 
zimmerseo said:
Where are buying them for $150? Many places sell them for $25.
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Yes but ,

only 1 500 words article , plus domain and hosting are not included. Most pbn sites , built for 25$ require lots of additional hard work on them.
 
For an experienced PBN builder, it's PBN all day over web 2.0. Why? Because you most probably have old links plus decent domain age on it. That's immediately an SEO advantage. Not only that, you can fully optimize it or build any platform you want on it.

Though, a web 2.0 is free, you basically start fresh with 0 backlink profile because it's a subdomain. Not only that, most of them are limited to NF links plus can only do so little when it comes to layout options.
 
have you considered though the fact that PBN was previously owned with a different URL structure (i.e. not all links will stay live for lifetime). It probably is easier to build a PBN, but the biggest difficulty would be finding the right domain and maintaining it's rank.
 
Web 2.0s are typically high authority blogs on high authority domains. Oftentimes they are on subdomains instead of subdirectories which don't really seem to have any authority.
 
The best way would be to do half web2.0 and half of PBNs.
 
I tried pbn but realized it was not for me because it consumes a lot of my time building it and also have management issues plus the paranoia of the pbn getting deindexed.so I switched to web 2.0 now. I use serengine to create accounts in gsa ser.
 
The huge difference is that with PBN you can even hunt for domains with existing high quality backlinks in your NICHE. You can even get domains with backlinks from .edu, .gov or wiki. With web2.0, you will be having a hard time getting them indexed from the get go, not to mention you need to build up some sort of authority for them to be effective, as they are subdomains regardless how powerful their homepages are.
 
The competition of the term you are trying to rank plays a huge difference in what works.

On many platforms, you CAN get expired 2.0s. On these same platforms, some are Do - Follow. If you scrap your own PBN domains, you can scrape your own 2.0 domains. They can have better metrics than many normal expired domains for less.

But these 2.0s are not as powerful as a single PBN link. The reasons are various, but in most cases, yes, a PBN site where all link juice is funneled via a single link is more powerful than your typical web 2.0. But you can get an expired 2.0 and funnel some lower quality contextual to pass more juice and authority.

For low / medium competition KWs, you can rank just as well in most cases with either a 2.0 or a PBN link.

But from medium to high comp KWs (Which people often confuse, search volume means nothing. You need to look at the top ten or twenty competing pages, see if they target the KW directly, how many links they have, age of the sub page on the domain and so on.) I typically, in my experience, have far better results with PBN links than 2.0s. Even amazing expired 2.0 domains on a Do - Follow platform which I beef up with profiles, other 2.0s of higher quality and metrics and high metric blog comments, and lower quality PBN posts do not move a high competition KW as well as a good PBN link.

For lower comp KWs, long tails with low comp, and some lower comp medium comp KWs can be ranked with well done 2.0s.

But try to rank for Payday loans and see how that goes. This is experience talking. This is why the 'big players' have a PBN and people suggest a PBN. Once you go after a higher comp KW, for your site or commonly for a client, you will see it is not worth it to manage 2.0s and they are not as effective.

I am currently working on several hundred KWs on various sites. One KW, one of my highest comp KWs, is a bit over medium comp. Top ten has 5 or so authority sites with exact match to the KW. Monthly search is over 30K. Page two and three are filled with sites with age, real PR up to three, high TF, good back links, and at least several dozen links pointing to their page which targets that KW. My site in on page four most days. I drop one of the aforementioned 2.0 which takes me more time than a PBN domain to build, and it does not move. I sprinkle in five, it moves up a space if I am lucky. Or, I drop a single well done PBN link and it moves.

The way I see it is like this, if I am going to spend as much if not more time building a 2.0 than a PBN site, why not build the PBN site? The cost difference is hosting plus the domain reg fee if you scrape them yourself. So $15 a year? It is more powerful and you have more control over this platform. Plus, PBNs, even when I use individual hosting accounts, are a LOT easier to track than a network of 2.0s.

For those lower comp KWs you can just build a few 2.0s on expired 2.0 names, prep them, build some lower quality PBN links to them and add content on a weekly or monthly basis like you would a money site. You can rank well this way for easier stuff. But depending on the KW, it changes what works and how well.
 
lightningblitz said:
The competition of the term you are trying to rank plays a huge difference in what works.

On many platforms, you CAN get expired 2.0s. On these same platforms, some are Do - Follow. If you scrap your own PBN domains, you can scrape your own 2.0 domains. They can have better metrics than many normal expired domains for less.

But these 2.0s are not as powerful as a single PBN link. The reasons are various, but in most cases, yes, a PBN site where all link juice is funneled via a single link is more powerful than your typical web 2.0. But you can get an expired 2.0 and funnel some lower quality contextual to pass more juice and authority.

For low / medium competition KWs, you can rank just as well in most cases with either a 2.0 or a PBN link.

But from medium to high comp KWs (Which people often confuse, search volume means nothing. You need to look at the top ten or twenty competing pages, see if they target the KW directly, how many links they have, age of the sub page on the domain and so on.) I typically, in my experience, have far better results with PBN links than 2.0s. Even amazing expired 2.0 domains on a Do - Follow platform which I beef up with profiles, other 2.0s of higher quality and metrics and high metric blog comments, and lower quality PBN posts do not move a high competition KW as well as a good PBN link.

For lower comp KWs, long tails with low comp, and some lower comp medium comp KWs can be ranked with well done 2.0s.

But try to rank for Payday loans and see how that goes. This is experience talking. This is why the 'big players' have a PBN and people suggest a PBN. Once you go after a higher comp KW, for your site or commonly for a client, you will see it is not worth it to manage 2.0s and they are not as effective.

I am currently working on several hundred KWs on various sites. One KW, one of my highest comp KWs, is a bit over medium comp. Top ten has 5 or so authority sites with exact match to the KW. Monthly search is over 30K. Page two and three are filled with sites with age, real PR up to three, high TF, good back links, and at least several dozen links pointing to their page which targets that KW. My site in on page four most days. I drop one of the aforementioned 2.0 which takes me more time than a PBN domain to build, and it does not move. I sprinkle in five, it moves up a space if I am lucky. Or, I drop a single well done PBN link and it moves.

The way I see it is like this, if I am going to spend as much if not more time building a 2.0 than a PBN site, why not build the PBN site? The cost difference is hosting plus the domain reg fee if you scrape them yourself. So $15 a year? It is more powerful and you have more control over this platform. Plus, PBNs, even when I use individual hosting accounts, are a LOT easier to track than a network of 2.0s.

For those lower comp KWs you can just build a few 2.0s on expired 2.0 names, prep them, build some lower quality PBN links to them and add content on a weekly or monthly basis like you would a money site. You can rank well this way for easier stuff. But depending on the KW, it changes what works and how well.
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you mention lower and high quality PBN Link. what differentiate those? would be great if you can specify more: content, link you build, or existing link from expired domain?
 
The main advantage of PBNs, as long as they are high quality PBNs, is that they will already have powerful backlinks pointing to them that are very hard to get.
 
A PBN is made up of expired domains that have quality SEO metrics already. = More boost

A Web 2.0 PBN is made up of new 2.0s (might be boosted with a tier 2/3) = Less boost
 
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