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Scheme is one...Instagram, Facebook, Amazon - repeat x10000 and we have BHW forums ;)


But sadly...again thousands of posts about creating Instagram, Shopify, Amazon and Facebook Ads :D

I mean if somehow Amazon fails, Instagram change rules, Shopify bankrupt, 90% of this forum is going to the shithole :D

Whats wrong with facebook?

That is my question as well... I know a guy that made close to 400K on FB over the past 2 years using automation.

He is still doing very well with it even though the FB made their stupid changes but it is not the 3K and 5K days any more but it is still a great place to drive traffic from to your websites.

I'm guessing that you have not tested it, @vinku, or that your tests were not successful?

I'm not slamming you, I'm also curious why you are sort of trashing the methods that generate traffic from SM.
 
That is my question as well... I know a guy that made close to 400K on FB over the past 2 years using automation.

He is still doing very well with it even though the FB made their stupid changes but it is not the 3K and 5K days any more but it is still a great place to drive traffic from to your websites.

I'm guessing that you have not tested it, @vinku, or that your tests were not successful?

I'm not slamming you, I'm also curious why you are sort of trashing the methods that generate traffic from SM.

As you said, it's not 3k and 5k days any more ;)
Yes, I've not tested facebook, instagram, etc. because I think it's not a way to independence. Social media can change anything next day and your business is finished. I think also that these social media are too spammed. Every kid was pushing CPA offers, sms subs to Facebook and people are very carefull now. They see it's just a spam.

For me, we need just a solid website, an engaged email lists, some solid products. Making money with social and affiliate networks isn't solid ;)


Ofcourse, it's only my opinion. It can be wrong ;)
 
As you said, it's not 3k and 5k days any more ;)
Yes, I've not tested facebook, instagram, etc. because I think it's not a way to independence. Social media can change anything next day and your business is finished. I think also that these social media are too spammed. Every kid was pushing CPA offers, sms subs to Facebook and people are very carefull now. They see it's just a spam.

For me, we need just a solid website, an engaged email lists, some solid products. Making money with social and affiliate networks isn't solid ;)


Ofcourse, it's only my opinion. It can be wrong ;)

It's a 20 minute process to set up the automation for a 300.00 day with FB... I miss the "K" days but that is not a bad hourly rate for a guy that spends his day on a deck watching people fish.
 
The reason you don't see any quality posts/methods is because everyone wants to make $100 a day after 1 month of work, nobody wants to take the time to develop an actual business/brand. For example, people want to make money on YouTube. What's their go-to methods for making money on YouTube? Re-uploading other people's videos or crappy and unprofessional affiliate marketing videos. If people would just learn video editing, research good quality settings for audio and video, and actually worked hard on creating content, they would make more money over an extended period of time and set themselves up for future success.

In my personal case, I've been making $1000+ a month on Fiverr for the last 3 months. I didn't get to this point by outsourcing backlinks and social signals gigs. I got to this point by treating my Fiverr gigs like my services, and my Fiverr profile like my own business. If people were to treat Fiverr like I have, they would have success. Instead, they try doing what I mentioned like outsourcing to make a quick dollar, and they screw themselves.

People here need to learn that to make money, you need to be patient and you need to develop an actual business or brand. What's the point in creating quality posts showing money making methods if people won't actually put in the work? That's just my opinion.
 
RICH PEOPLE : never share "secret technique" "annual revenue" and never "deceive people"

POOR PEOPLE :
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3. [Method] Easy $100+/day with Twitter! (Twists+Newbie Friendly+No Investment)
4. Ect.

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RICH PEOPLE : never share "secret technique" "annual revenue" and never "deceive people"

POOR PEOPLE :
1. FAST AND SIMPLE BUCKS, from 5$ to unlimited $/day
2. BUY REAL INSTAGRAM LIKES! 100% Real Accounts NO BOTS! Service by AQSocials
3. [Method] Easy $100+/day with Twitter! (Twists+Newbie Friendly+No Investment)
4. Ect.

This forum
< 2010 Best of the best
> 2013 NO COMMENT


This is the best thing anyone said it on this forum!!
I graduated from university, and started earning money through internet with my university knowledge and sense of business, when I started reading this forum it was ok for some ideas, but most of the journeys and ideas here are from people that are younger than 20 and have no knowledge or sense for business, all they do is inventing new ways for spamming and destroying other people ways for creating business brands but ruining the grand purpose and endless possibilities of the social media.

That is why i read less and less on this forum.

I think that moderators on this forum should do something about this, but in the end I will continue my path to conquering the world with creating my own unique products developed by own ideas and spammers will continue to write forum posts and never achieve greatness such ass Zuckenberg, Elon Musk, B.Gates, people who devoted their time to create product to rule the world not to have enough money to live from day-to-day!
 
This is the best thing anyone said it on this forum!!
I graduated from university, and started earning money through internet with my university knowledge and sense of business, when I started reading this forum it was ok for some ideas, but most of the journeys and ideas here are from people that are younger than 20 and have no knowledge or sense for business, all they do is inventing new ways for spamming and destroying other people ways for creating business brands but ruining the grand purpose and endless possibilities of the social media.

That is why i read less and less on this forum.

I think that moderators on this forum should do something about this, but in the end I will continue my path to conquering the world with creating my own unique products developed by own ideas and spammers will continue to write forum posts and never achieve greatness such ass Zuckenberg, Elon Musk, B.Gates, people who devoted their time to create product to rule the world not to have enough money to live from day-to-day!

I think we can rule the world but not with just few IG accounts ;)

My set:
-mobile apps, as many we can
-websites, as many we can
-IG, FB, twitter and other accounts - yes, I read about it, can be usefull but not for main income
-email lists
-software
-adware and even malware
-outsourcing everything

Connect all traffic sources into one system, mini ad network.

Then we can crush the $10k-$50k / day walls. Without beeing an emperor with gigantic traffic, it's nonsense to stay in IM :)
Better to create small brand, app like Torque for android or Cold Turkey for Windows ;)
I am interested to start with cold turkey competition, maybe ill decide.
 
Op with that one thread with 30 comments you interpreted 90% of bhw members are poor wow that is an amazing skill man i guess u might be from Stanford or harvard.
btw Romania is not a young country in terms of economy or geo, Even it's growth is rapid post 89 revolution (per capita of $9.5k+) and third world countries doesn't mean poor countries (which nothing to do with economy of any country for that matter), which means post WW2 during the cold war those countries which are supported/allied with NATO called first world and Soviet supporters are second world and the rest who shut their fcks and being neutral are called third world countries.
I guess this is a seo forum to be specific digital marketing forum which is obviously discussing about seo sem smm (social media and SEs) i don't think we have an app development section here (you might knw that for being here almost a decade)
fyi Social media's are traffic sources and shopify/amazon/ebay/cpa websites are money sites. FB and IG are the money makers currently, However which doesn't mean just simply running an ad will give you million dollors is bullshit (again one should know what shit is doing), i know many people makes shity apps and thinking that is the money making machine source, then you're wrong mate you can make money out of anything even just reuploading PORN videos just you should know what you're doing. Just stop judging people, you might have made hell lot of money does't mean others can't and sure they will if they utilize this forum accordingly.
Shopify is booming market now i mean literally so many people interested to start journey to keep motivated. ( I dont know how you're saying it will go bankruptcy when it is just an ecom platform ?)
India you mentioned for cheap workers because of too much of skilled human sources (21-22% global market share on IT as per MOODY's 2016 ) and the demand is less people (too much political dilemma) tend to go for competitively low price also the work is worth that much only even here you can't buy beer with one euro.
Nothing Personal - no offence.
P.s - before you comment that my English is bad, Since i am not native english pardon my writings
 
I agree with a lot of points from the people who dislike the same old method REHASHED 4 billion times with new affiliate hidden links each time. PM the poster and find his affiliate links shoved in your face. I don't see anything new, anything creative, anything shrewd or sharp. I tried to post some out of the box ideas, and nothing. Yet, ideas like A.E. (which is not cheap for pricing) and shopify (you can host your own free ecommerce yourself with paypal attached) are the "awesome" bread winners. The Shopify method is dead if you can only go to A.E. for products or find niches with only like 300 world wide buyers. I hate that ppl think that finding a $0.20 item and making someone pay $10,00 for shipping is "creative". You are simply trying to find 1 stupid person to buy while you alienate and jade thousands of other people. The result is ppl mistrust everything now, thx to the spammers.

I buy shit from Amazon / eBay, build it together with something else, double its prices and resell it. Most of the stuff I do sell locally, but its not hard. When I see ppl paying for FB ads on a piece of shit shopify site with overpriced chinese products I laugh. That person will run out of ppl falling for their shitty products then just go out and repeat under a new niche.

I'm done ranting now, but if you want to compare brain power used for certain methods on here, there is no contest. No one has put any thought into a Good method and posted it, as of yet.
 
I am not rich. But I have a very steady income, my apartment, my two cars, solid savings, 45 days per year bagpacking Europe since I love travelling, meeting new people. Im doing IM since 2004, so you join the dots. My business, my job: I'm a Black Hatter. Internet Marketeer. It took me long years to master some points and techniques. Most people land here waiting for magical formulas; easy tasks.

Not only for Internet Marketeers but for all aspects of life: no pain, no gain.

I don't give a shit for affiliates, dropshipping etc. I love to conquer niches -- buying and selling websites and traffic - the best way to make your steady income.


One of the few comments that I pleased about subject to

Hard Work

that is what you always have to take into account, there is no doubt that nobody's going to share his secret about their earnings, that doesn't make sense to anyone.

Working with facebook to someone else and the reason why i came to this forum is always have a technique on how to keep my facebook accounts for as long as possible, it is hard but it works.

to make a profit on something you have to work hard, I regret to say that nothing will be given away and don't do it yourself, who will?...
 
OP makes some valid suggestions.. However, posting your working methods or niches in a public place, it's almost a guarantee that you will ruin that method due to over-saturation. That's probably the reason behind all the secrecy. Don't worry, you can always try e-whoring, it has been very popular around here for the past many years and it's not going anywhere :)

Cheers!
 
OP makes some valid suggestions.. However, posting your working methods or niches in a public place, it's almost a guarantee that you will ruin that method due to over-saturation. That's probably the reason behind all the secrecy. Don't worry, you can always try e-whoring, it has been very popular around here for the past many years and it's not going anywhere :)

Cheers!
Popular? It's not even allowed to be discussed here.
 
Who cares if they are poor, i don't understand this thread.

And there is not just 1 guy ''who made 1M''

There are some of them, but they don't give a fuck and won't tell other people how they throw away millions.

Yeah, some are happy with 5-10 a day. Some people don't want to be a millionaire, some people are happy with the extras they can make online. Even if it's a dollar.

And sure instagram, they want the dream. got a page 7m followers strong made many posts about it, i made it all happen, cuz of BHW. also started with 5 dollars a day..

And ye.. now i make 1 dollar a day ;) lmao
 
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Uploading porn is not e-whoring. E-whoring is pretending to be a chick in chat rooms and hitting on men until they give you their credit card number to see your "nude pics" or "live show".
 
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Uploading porn is not e-whoring. E-whoring is pretending to be a chick in chat rooms and hitting on men until they give you their credit card number to see your "nude pics" or "live show".

I don't want to get into an useless argument but I will stick to my opinion about those threads. Downloading or recording webcams videos of random girls, uploading them to video sites and then sending traffic to crackrevenue (when the visitors are clearly expecting to find more content with the girls in the videos) is e-whoring in my book.

Just my 2 cents, I might be wrong though.
Cheers!
 
Hello, No offense but I have a straight and simple question. If you are earning this huge pile of money then why did you create a thread selling an ebook for such small amount of money?
 
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