5 Years Later and Still Struggling

Sorry, but I just think the above is quite contradictory. You don't want a "magic sauce" or a "secret formula" but you want to know how to make true passive income. In other words, you want to know how to make money online - consistently.. which to me, just sounds like all the other threads I've seen on here in the last few months asking the same question "how do I make money online?"

I didn't read all the replies on this thread so apologies if this was already addressed.

You want to know how to make a true passive income?

You can make true passive income with Amazon. I do, and I know plenty of others who do. But that didn't work out for you, right?

...you can also make passive income with CPA. But there is no guarantee that will work for you either.

Similarly, you can also make passive income with FB ads, dropshipping, ecommerce, buying/selling sites, and so on...

But there is no guarantee they're going to work for you. So no matter what "direction" any of us give you - it's not going to be 100% certain that you'll be make passive income from it. What might work for me certainly and probably won't work for you and vice versa.

Therefore I, personally, think your question of wanting to find out how to make a true passive income is pretty broad. I can tell you exactly how I make my income just now (SEO [both selling + my own sites], affiliate sites [Amazon], CPA [content locking] and more).. but I doubt that's going to be of much help. Even if I told you I make $1K/day with CPA and you attempt to try it out, there is no guarantee it's going to work for you.

So again, no matter what advice anyone gives here, it's never going to teach you how you can make a true passive income. I was going to say something similar to @netmoney1 - if you've exhausted several methods (over several years) and still struggling, then maybe... just maybe.. this isn't for you? But from what you're saying, you certainly seem to have the drive(?) and passion for it and to be honest, that's all that counts. I've seen guys with just determination bust through and hit the jackpot with a method after several years of making nothing so it's certainly possible.

My point I guess is - no one here is going to point you to a guaranteed way to hit the jackpot. I know you're not asking to be spoon-fed, but what you are asking is for a direction to making passive income. However, that "direction" may not even help you. Like I said, I can tell you to go ahead and do CPA (you can make lucrative ROI with CPA).. but there is a strong possibility that you might come back next year and ask for another direction because CPA failed for you.

What I will suggest is to go with @BreaknBrix' advice. Keep trying, keep learning and if you do have any specific questions about particular methods or practices, make a thread and I'm sure many members would be happy to help. I'm sorry I wasn't of much use but I don't think anyone is going to point you in the "right" direction - everyone has different skills here and I just think you'll hit the jackpot eventually, just keep trying and don't be afraid to experiment/ask us for help. A lot of us do like trolling threads like these, but that's mainly because we see stuff like this on a daily basis so it's hard to tell from the genuine members who need help/advice over the ones who are just looking for a quick free spoon-feeding session.

Good luck and hopefully something works out soon buddy! :)
Appreciate the advice for sure. I understand what you mean about it working for some and not all. Since i already have the foundation in place with Amazon and a few killer untapped niches, I think I will continue to push until I break through that wall. I think getting shot down on Flippa, eBay, and Fiverr after so much hard work I was beginning to doubt that any of these techniques had legs. I am not one to quit so easily, as you can tell after five years and me still looking for a way to the promised land.

I have 100+ posts on my one Blogger amazon site and all pages are indexed in the first few pages on Google for their unique long-tail keywords. I guess I will need to let that pot simmer just a little longer to see if i can bust that $20 a day barrier i hit one time and do it on a more consistent basis with even more posts.
 
I truly understand you. There is something that I want to share with you. I will say that because you have assured rate of about $50 a day, then you can hire some services and let the money work for you. There are several virtual assistants whome you can employ and they will run all this for you. Your work will be just oversight and you will struggle no more.
 
Just wanted to thank everyone who took the time to offer me advice last night to help me to turn my ship around! I appreciate everyone's help and am grateful for the ability to access so much information on this forum.
 
You should do some SEO on your Amazon blogs. I would transfer articles from blogger to your own domain and then do a lot of quality backlinkin so that your blogs will rank.

There is no excuse that you don't have knowledge about SEO. Like someone said, you should analyse situation and adapt. You are half way through. You have content on your blogs ( hope you did keyword reseach), now you only need backlinks.
 
Seems your life is not bad enough to make a real change ... To put it in tony Robbins words .. You got impotent goals ...

Guess how many things i in the last 5 years ... It was more than you ... And yes. I found my ways.

But your real issues are really somewhere else. Trust me

Get some money and search one to coach you ...

The methods u use suck .. And you don't get it and always blame it on someone else ...

Should I!!!! Start complaining when one affiliate went broke ?? And from one to nthe next second 300€/month was gone. And no no no alternative ...


You have some serious money issues. And you sound like some old German dude I met in the past who was sick of doing biz with human people ... He wanted passive income to sit on the beach ...

Sure I stopped contact with him

The boys I work now with ... They hustle even on their birthday ... The bank 50-500 a day.

Guess someone feed them ? No. They learned it the hard way.

Stop whining. INVEST In coaching And stop what you do. Now. It does not work. ...
 
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You're looking for a direction - niche authority sites are the consistent money makers now. Most other sites are going to be burn and churn. No matter what, if you can find a good niche and create quality content, the traffic will come. Do this for 6 months, 12 months, 18 months - you're making a solid passive income.

I'm not actually mad that you declined the work, I was more frustrated that you couldn't see the opportunity (especially with what the OP was about). My idea of success is authority niche sites (as I've made hundreds of thousands passively in this) which can take over a year to see returns from depending on market.

Bro. He does not get it. You waste your time ..
 
Hi Punisher,

Why not applying for an adsense account, create and fuel your website daily with valuable niched ( highest cpc *...I suggest you legal niche) content value articles that you write?
 
What you must do is to stop thinking about your past business failures. Create a new website, focus on lucrative niches with good commissions, don't use Amazon as they give you pennies comparing to other networks. Don't create many sites, don't do many things, search engines love authority sites now. Write long, high quality reviews, not the usual short article people used back in the days. You can make way more than 100 USD per day without a problem, the one thing you must do is to clear your mind from your past BS. Also, don't think in hours, this is not a government work, you are not paid for your time, you are paid on conversions! You can work 30 minutes per day by outsourcing all of your content and other work, you can work 20 hours, it doesn't matter. Only people with regular job thinking are paid on hours, don't think like them! Also in terms of design - don't create old looking sites with design trends and techniques which were fashionable before, use trendy and modern design, things that kids will convert from their mobile devices.
 
What you must do is to stop thinking about your past business failures. Create a new website, focus on lucrative niches with good commissions, don't use Amazon as they give you pennies comparing to other networks. Don't create many sites, don't do many things, search engines love authority sites now. Write long, high quality reviews, not the usual short article people used back in the days. You can make way more than 100 USD per day without a problem, the one thing you must do is to clear your mind from your past BS. Also, don't think in hours, this is not a government work, you are not paid for your time, you are paid on conversions! You can work 30 minutes per day by outsourcing all of your content and other work, you can work 20 hours, it doesn't matter. Only people with regular job thinking are paid on hours, don't think like them! Also in terms of design - don't create old looking sites with design trends and techniques which were fashionable before, use trendy and modern design, things that kids will convert from their mobile devices.
I try not to think about the past failures at all. I just keep chugging forward. Like i mentioned earlier, I learned everything I know from this forum only. I don't have a group I consult with or learn from, so it was trial and error along the way learning what I could gather here. I blew up my Paypal account, lesson learned, moved on. Had Adsense account suspended, lesson learned, moved on. I have some nice Amazon niche sites, but whatever is wrong with them I have to figure out on my own because I don't have a peer group looking and pointing me along. So you tend to get frustrated BUT you keep moving forward.

I DID have impotent goals, as Tony Robbins would say, but that was the reason I came here asking for help. To see if I could get to $150 a day and raise my bar. I think if I tweak my Amazon sites I can gain some traction. They already rank, and have killer keywords, I need to work on back-links and more content. There is no one on this site that puts in longer hours than me working on making money, I can assure you. I am up at 6am and go to bed 2am, seven days a week, even holidays, NO breaks UNTIL I succeed. I may just need a little guidance, no need for some to post or PM me with nasty messages about me being lazy or too old. This is the reason many newbies never make it here, they ask for help and some people feel it is time to bash rather than extend a hand. I never asked anyone to tell me their secret formula, I only asked if anyone could tell me if I was headed in the right direction and keep going or make some turns.....

Thank you to the few that did post some pretty impressive PMs in my inbox. I am absolutely taking your advice and moving forward with my foot on the gas. I have the foundation in place, need to knock down the shitty shed I built and focus on building my empire.

This time next month I already feel like I will be on my way. I will keep those posted who are interested of my progress and for those newbies messaging me, YES, I will post what changes i ultimately made that got my sails to pick up the wind rather than me fighting it.
 
You are talking about hours again, you are not even reading what people are saying to you. Nobody cares how much hours you work, with Amazon sites you are going nowhere, you don't have any killer keywords ranking if you don't make 100 USD per day! You need to move on, create a new website with high quality long article, forget about backlinks, get on social media and stop thinking about spending tons of hours in front of the computer as it was your mistake in the beginning. Don't work hard, work smart! You DON'T get paid for spending hours in front of the computer, you get paid on results, Amazon commissions suck!

You are ignoring what people are saying to you and you will be on the same spot because you are ignoring us, just want to feel better by sharing. Being on your age you must be once again a child and start listening to others in order to re-shape your thinking and mindset, "working hard" is a dated propaganda from your generation, it doesn't work today! Maybe it will be relevant in the future again, but not now, not at this moment. You must work SMART, not HARD! I already told you what will make you successful and you start talking about tweaking sites which will make pennies.

Rather be a slave on content writing services, use the slaves, rather be the worker, be the boss! Rather talking how much hours you put, make someone else spend these hours for you! Reshape your mindset, be the boss, not the worker!

I am trying to help, not to point fingers or collect shine and pretend to be special! Trust me, I've been on your road and I realize there are two major groups here, you are the one who decided where will you be positioned. Don't decide to be the worker of someone else, even if that is way more complicated as we are all under or working for someone in some regard, but that is a whole another topic.

I am sorry to say to you, but you have to change your mindset, otherwise your "hard working" will leave you where you are at the moment!
 
You are talking about hours again, you are not even reading what people are saying to you. Nobody cares how much hours you work, with Amazon sites you are going nowhere, you don't have any killer keywords ranking if you don't make 100 USD per day! You need to move on, create a new website with high quality long article, forget about backlinks, get on social media and stop thinking about spending tons of hours in front of the computer as it was your mistake in the beginning. Don't work hard, work smart! You DON'T get paid for spending hours in front of the computer, you get paid on results, Amazon commissions suck!

You are ignoring what people are saying to you and you will be on the same spot because you are ignoring us, just want to feel better by sharing. Being on your age you must be once again a child and start listening to others in order to re-shape your thinking and mindset, "working hard" is a dated propaganda from your generation, it doesn't work today! Maybe it will be relevant in the future again, but not now, not at this moment. You must work SMART, not HARD! I already told you what will make you successful and you start talking about tweaking sites which will make pennies.

Rather be a slave on content writing services, use the slaves, rather be the worker, be the boss! Rather talking how much hours you put, make someone else spend these hours for you! Reshape your mindset, be the boss, not the worker!
I am reading, and will take your message to heart and make the necessary changes as you said. Thank you.
 
If you have sites that earn passively make 100 more - problem solved.
 
If you have sites that earn passively make 100 more - problem solved.
FA925, can you and AboveAll understand my frustration though??? You say if a site is passively making $1 a day, make 100 more, AboveAll says ignore those penny making sites and amazon and go authority only! Just wanted to point out that this is one of the issue I had trying to get rolling, I had to make my decisions based on half the field saying go left while the rest said go right. That was the point i tried to make to Above All about me having a bunch of sites making $10 a day, but some people feel that road is a waste. I know what works for some doesn't work for others. I am reading and rereading this entire post from beginning to end to try and gather as much helpful information to get me to where i need to be. Thank you for you input FA925
 
FA925, can you and AboveAll understand my frustration though??? You say if a site is passively making $1 a day, make 100 more, AboveAll says ignore those penny making sites and amazon and go authority only! Just wanted to point out that this is one of the issue I had trying to get rolling, I had to make my decisions based on half the field saying go left while the rest said go right. That was the point i tried to make to Above All about me having a bunch of sites making $10 a day, but some people feel that road is a waste. I know what works for some doesn't work for others. I am reading and rereading this entire post from beginning to end to try and gather as much helpful information to get me to where i need to be. Thank you for you input FA925
Well the final decision lies with you, but I think you cannot go wrong with 100 sites out there. Whether they be adsense, amazon or clickbank. If the sites are quality (Which they would be with your writing background) $100 a day should be easy.
 
While you're looking for other things, get dragon speak and get used to it. I'm sure there is a torrent version or a free one to try until you can buy a legit version. It will make your writing WAY faster and easier by just talking into the software. If I was just writing all day I would definitely do that.
 
While you're looking for other things, get dragon speak and get used to it. I'm sure there is a torrent version or a free one to try until you can buy a legit version. It will make your writing WAY faster and easier by just talking into the software. If I was just writing all day I would definitely do that.
GREAT TIP!!!! I think I saw one in downloads section, I'm on it, thx....
 
@Punisher all your answers reek of one obvious thing. Your problem is not what you do, it is how you price your work. (and most probably how you position yourself in general)

There's a course made by a copywriter called "Secrets of a 6-figure upworker". Go buy or download it right now and learn how to position yourself and how to raise your prices. You should be doing $50 / hour MINIMUM.

When you learn to sell your labor for $100 / hour and more, you will be prepared for starting any other business. One of my early business mentors said this: "When you enter market as a new company, you should price your products or services above market average". If you cannot sell average work for above average price, your business is doomed.

Also, forget about Fiverr. High-paying clients are super rare there. You don't catch whales in a puddle.
 
I entered this thread thinking it was going to be the shit-thread of the day.

Turned out there are quite a few really good posts in here.

OP, I don't currently have the time to write a long post about what you should do. But I do have time to say this:

Write down what you WANT to do. And then do what you want. The end.

You are overcomplicating this to the extreme.
 
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