CrazeWiz
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As soon as the new router arrives. Hopefully early next week.
300£ a day
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As soon as the new router arrives. Hopefully early next week.
soulcollector
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So this is my first helpful post in a while. Surprise, its this thread everyone sees as "dead, fake, more slang about how dumb it is inserted here". I don't need fancy fonts or titles or thanks for sharing as thats below me. This method is solid, but there is no solid way to make money from it. People have been throwing out these shit ideas about cpa and affiliates and adsense. You need to think better, fast.
You are not going to make $300 per day with this method without some really dark and shady black hat shit. So I'll reveal my twist for the method (just not all of it).
First, I make my own router hub using Raspberry Pi 3 parts and code. Raspberian OS basic, with custom scripts to handle the webserver traffic, etc. The addons for the Raspberry Pi 3 also have a break out board for the wifi, etc. Think on thatfor a bit, then go do your own research. I'm not going to hold your hand to build it for you as this will destroy those would be "press button to spam for cash" idiots who ruin every single method.
Second, I custom design my own offers and portal. I am able to buy items cheap like most big retail chains. If you look up the details page for surface pro series, you'll find the legit wholesale companies that are not from China. These companies require you to spend money on an application just for an account, then spending hundreds of thousands of dollars per month to get better bulk discount pricing on items. I got in by managing advertising accounts for certain local companies that had the capital to get in. Now I am able to buy overstock from either the companies or from the wholesale company itself as I have built up credit with them. Its important to not be some dumb fly by night fuck with half a brain for this. Think about making the money daily and the effort you need to apply at the right place at the right time. I offer these cheap items up on the portal as a real discount, not some scam bullshit everyone suggests. The protal is easily just some bullshit html page associated with them being showed "special" offers for a limited time. I play up on sychology to sell shit, and guess what? It works great, so learn some of it.
Third, I target locally. Most ppl think "oh they got wifi already" but you failed to realize that majority of the people like to use what is free. If they switch to my network setup, which is a "mirror" of the target areas network (think grocery store guest wifi 2 with a faster connection option than network 1). So its like Walmart Public Access, then I'd name my network Walmart 5G Public Access or something that would get the point across as free, fast, better than clicking the other options. Also, think easier for the person using the network. They want the free wifi, so forcing them into a sign up or sale is dumb. I let my discounts be bait for ppl who want them, not forced to want them. If you block their "free" wifi with a crappy lock or offer you turn away potentials. I'd rather simply explain on the offers that the "sale" pricing and such is merely seen at that limited time only. I also make sure of it by restricting offers based on phone mac addresses and connections.
Fourth, I do some blackhat shit as well, like faking the walmart.com page on my network and tricking them into giving me their details, etc. I'd end up shipping the package by my "inserted" sold from third party option I custom scripted. I place myself as the "best offer" on my fake product comparison walmart.com page. This helps boosts conversions while helping me to explain why my name is on the box when shipped out. You can do this for Best Buy and other stores (even Amazon) that allow third part sellers on their sites. You need to be smart about it though as many ppl will get angry or catch on if its a scam.
Since they are connecting to my network, I control what they can see and do while collecting data from them. If it turns out the fucker didn't stop in to convert, I just simply have enough data from them to sell to someone else who might convert them. I don't need any emails either. If I want to sell adspace to businesses (only 3/25 wanted such a thing that was paid for as most want free first) then that option is also available there. Now don't go sell a Target Ad on a Walmart Wifi. You need to again be smart and pick what you want to do for which event and why, when, how, etc. I use paypal for payment processing when its sites that normally would look suspicious with Google Wallet or Amazon Payments.
So TLDR?
1. Build your own wifi network using parts like raspberry pi 3 or arduino so you can customize aspects of the device.
2. Custom script your own network portal.
3. Gain real special offers that are actually a better deal online through your portal than in store. You can even tie it to "oh because you decided to use our new public access wifi you have been selected for this special discount offer, etc. I bet you dumb kids don't use cash back credit cards at all? See where I went with that? You got a leg up now where you don't need to spend a lot of money on inventory (unless you want deeper discounts). Rather order, take off x% for processing certain items, and you are done.
4. Using psychology and marketing strategies that my shrewd brain develops I can increase my conversions rather than simply slapping a content locker MFA page up.
5. You need to evolve and get creative with the setup. No scams allowed though. Advertisers might even agree to pay what you want to charge them for a sale. Now, I would normally charge 100% of all sales ($500 budget makes them $500 at 50% back, and $1000 at 100% back). I'd give 50% discount to the clients, and keep 50% for me (or generously give them as much of my 50% back as I want). I do not fucking care about their profits, only mine.
Since I figured I contributed much more to a dead horse than I wanted, I'll leave the rest up to you. With this small setup and an unwarery shopper with a fat wallet I make a realistic $200 weekly from selling ppl cheaper items
You are not going to make $300 per day with this method without some really dark and shady black hat shit. So I'll reveal my twist for the method (just not all of it).
First, I make my own router hub using Raspberry Pi 3 parts and code. Raspberian OS basic, with custom scripts to handle the webserver traffic, etc. The addons for the Raspberry Pi 3 also have a break out board for the wifi, etc. Think on thatfor a bit, then go do your own research. I'm not going to hold your hand to build it for you as this will destroy those would be "press button to spam for cash" idiots who ruin every single method.
Second, I custom design my own offers and portal. I am able to buy items cheap like most big retail chains. If you look up the details page for surface pro series, you'll find the legit wholesale companies that are not from China. These companies require you to spend money on an application just for an account, then spending hundreds of thousands of dollars per month to get better bulk discount pricing on items. I got in by managing advertising accounts for certain local companies that had the capital to get in. Now I am able to buy overstock from either the companies or from the wholesale company itself as I have built up credit with them. Its important to not be some dumb fly by night fuck with half a brain for this. Think about making the money daily and the effort you need to apply at the right place at the right time. I offer these cheap items up on the portal as a real discount, not some scam bullshit everyone suggests. The protal is easily just some bullshit html page associated with them being showed "special" offers for a limited time. I play up on sychology to sell shit, and guess what? It works great, so learn some of it.
Third, I target locally. Most ppl think "oh they got wifi already" but you failed to realize that majority of the people like to use what is free. If they switch to my network setup, which is a "mirror" of the target areas network (think grocery store guest wifi 2 with a faster connection option than network 1). So its like Walmart Public Access, then I'd name my network Walmart 5G Public Access or something that would get the point across as free, fast, better than clicking the other options. Also, think easier for the person using the network. They want the free wifi, so forcing them into a sign up or sale is dumb. I let my discounts be bait for ppl who want them, not forced to want them. If you block their "free" wifi with a crappy lock or offer you turn away potentials. I'd rather simply explain on the offers that the "sale" pricing and such is merely seen at that limited time only. I also make sure of it by restricting offers based on phone mac addresses and connections.
Fourth, I do some blackhat shit as well, like faking the walmart.com page on my network and tricking them into giving me their details, etc. I'd end up shipping the package by my "inserted" sold from third party option I custom scripted. I place myself as the "best offer" on my fake product comparison walmart.com page. This helps boosts conversions while helping me to explain why my name is on the box when shipped out. You can do this for Best Buy and other stores (even Amazon) that allow third part sellers on their sites. You need to be smart about it though as many ppl will get angry or catch on if its a scam.
Since they are connecting to my network, I control what they can see and do while collecting data from them. If it turns out the fucker didn't stop in to convert, I just simply have enough data from them to sell to someone else who might convert them. I don't need any emails either. If I want to sell adspace to businesses (only 3/25 wanted such a thing that was paid for as most want free first) then that option is also available there. Now don't go sell a Target Ad on a Walmart Wifi. You need to again be smart and pick what you want to do for which event and why, when, how, etc. I use paypal for payment processing when its sites that normally would look suspicious with Google Wallet or Amazon Payments.
So TLDR?
1. Build your own wifi network using parts like raspberry pi 3 or arduino so you can customize aspects of the device.
2. Custom script your own network portal.
3. Gain real special offers that are actually a better deal online through your portal than in store. You can even tie it to "oh because you decided to use our new public access wifi you have been selected for this special discount offer, etc. I bet you dumb kids don't use cash back credit cards at all? See where I went with that? You got a leg up now where you don't need to spend a lot of money on inventory (unless you want deeper discounts). Rather order, take off x% for processing certain items, and you are done.
4. Using psychology and marketing strategies that my shrewd brain develops I can increase my conversions rather than simply slapping a content locker MFA page up.
5. You need to evolve and get creative with the setup. No scams allowed though. Advertisers might even agree to pay what you want to charge them for a sale. Now, I would normally charge 100% of all sales ($500 budget makes them $500 at 50% back, and $1000 at 100% back). I'd give 50% discount to the clients, and keep 50% for me (or generously give them as much of my 50% back as I want). I do not fucking care about their profits, only mine.
Since I figured I contributed much more to a dead horse than I wanted, I'll leave the rest up to you. With this small setup and an unwarery shopper with a fat wallet I make a realistic $200 weekly from selling ppl cheaper items
Jumanji917
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Hey man this is so unique I live for stuff like this not no cookie cutter bullshit like op posted
Jumanji917
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Hey man this is so unique I live for stuff like this not no cookie cutter bullshit like op posted. I also saw the selling Pinterest invites method so I'm thinking about buying some group board invites to advertise my Merch by Amazon tee shirts
Old Dog
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I read through about half of this thread until it got to the dilemma of all offers completed from the same IP.
Forgive me if it has been previously mentioned but why not require a password to gain access to the wifi. If you can put a content locker on the captive portal then I'm sure you could require a password.
Just have it say "please enter verification code to continue. If you dont have one go to yoursite.com to get one for free."
Of course yoursite.com would have a content locker that once the requirements are completed they get the access code. This would require a domain and hosting.
To prevent them from using the available wifi network that you are hijacking and force them to use their phone data for the offers you could block access to yoursite.com from that particular IP.
This is quite a few hoops for them to jump through and may cut down on your conversions but maybe you could sweeten the deal by pretending to offer coupons or a prize or some shit to say every 25th user or something. Just put your black thinking hat on for that one.
As I said I never read the whole thread so if this has been mentioned before I apologize. I just wish I lived in a big city instead of the little shithole town I'm in cause I would definitely give this a go.
Good luck to all who give this method a shot.
Forgive me if it has been previously mentioned but why not require a password to gain access to the wifi. If you can put a content locker on the captive portal then I'm sure you could require a password.
Just have it say "please enter verification code to continue. If you dont have one go to yoursite.com to get one for free."
Of course yoursite.com would have a content locker that once the requirements are completed they get the access code. This would require a domain and hosting.
To prevent them from using the available wifi network that you are hijacking and force them to use their phone data for the offers you could block access to yoursite.com from that particular IP.
This is quite a few hoops for them to jump through and may cut down on your conversions but maybe you could sweeten the deal by pretending to offer coupons or a prize or some shit to say every 25th user or something. Just put your black thinking hat on for that one.
As I said I never read the whole thread so if this has been mentioned before I apologize. I just wish I lived in a big city instead of the little shithole town I'm in cause I would definitely give this a go.
Good luck to all who give this method a shot.
absalutelee
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Great idea!
CrazeWiz
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Ok, So I have everything set up and working now.
I got a used cheap router off eBay for £20/$25, an EnGenius ECB3500 as I knew it was supported by Cloudtrax which i have used before and has a splash page and captive portal function. I flashed the router with Open-Mesh firmware (free) so I could then add it to my Cloudtrax account/dashboard (free). This is the system I used before to run a WiFi hotspot business so everything was pretty much set up already.
With Cloudtrax you can offer Free or Paid for access, I decided to leave the paid for option so people can either pay or use the free access, obviously 99% of people will choose the free option thinking they are being savvy and getting a good deal.
Below is the landing page they will see after connecting (this is the page I see when I am editing it, the page the user sees is more cleaned up).
So after they click 'Continue' on the Free Access I can set the URL they are sent to (see picture below). The URL I send them to is my CPA content locker saying they must download an App (for mobile) or complete an offer for Laptop/PC to get the free WiFi access.
Now after they click Continue they will actually have full WiFi access, and yes, some people will realise this and not complete the CPA offer or download an App. I know this is not perfect but I need to give them Internet access to complete the CPA offer. I'm sure with some coding knowledge it could be made so that they don't have full Internet access until they complete the offer.
So everything is now working, I just need to test it in a busy public area (where I live is very residential and no one is going to try and connect to it because they have WiFi/Internet at home). I will get a router which supports 3G/4G SIM cards with an RJ45 port (Ethernet cable) like this one and a 12v high Amp hour leisure/marine battery to make the whole set up portable and can be put in a bag as I don't have a car and I can go to any busy public place like a park, the beach or street.
I got a used cheap router off eBay for £20/$25, an EnGenius ECB3500 as I knew it was supported by Cloudtrax which i have used before and has a splash page and captive portal function. I flashed the router with Open-Mesh firmware (free) so I could then add it to my Cloudtrax account/dashboard (free). This is the system I used before to run a WiFi hotspot business so everything was pretty much set up already.
With Cloudtrax you can offer Free or Paid for access, I decided to leave the paid for option so people can either pay or use the free access, obviously 99% of people will choose the free option thinking they are being savvy and getting a good deal.
Below is the landing page they will see after connecting (this is the page I see when I am editing it, the page the user sees is more cleaned up).
So after they click 'Continue' on the Free Access I can set the URL they are sent to (see picture below). The URL I send them to is my CPA content locker saying they must download an App (for mobile) or complete an offer for Laptop/PC to get the free WiFi access.
Now after they click Continue they will actually have full WiFi access, and yes, some people will realise this and not complete the CPA offer or download an App. I know this is not perfect but I need to give them Internet access to complete the CPA offer. I'm sure with some coding knowledge it could be made so that they don't have full Internet access until they complete the offer.
So everything is now working, I just need to test it in a busy public area (where I live is very residential and no one is going to try and connect to it because they have WiFi/Internet at home). I will get a router which supports 3G/4G SIM cards with an RJ45 port (Ethernet cable) like this one and a 12v high Amp hour leisure/marine battery to make the whole set up portable and can be put in a bag as I don't have a car and I can go to any busy public place like a park, the beach or street.
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TwoOneThree
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Nice! Keep us updated or just make a journey thread!Ok, So I have everything set up and working now.
I got a used cheap router off eBay for £20/$25, an EnGenius ECB3500 as I knew it was supported by Cloudtrax which i have used before and has a splash page and captive portal function. I flashed the router with Open-Mesh firmware (free) so I could then add it to my Cloudtrax account/dashboard (free). This is the system I used before to run a WiFi hotspot business so everything was pretty much set up already.
With Cloudtrax you can offer Free or Paid for access, I decided to leave the paid for option so people can either pay or use the free access, obviously 99% of people will choose the free option thinking they are being savvy and getting a good deal.
Below is the landing page they will see after connecting (this is the page I see when I am editing it, the page the user sees is more cleaned up).
So after they click 'Continue' on the Free Access I can set the URL they are sent to (see picture below). The URL I send them to is my CPA content locker saying they must download an App (for mobile) or complete an offer for Laptop/PC to get the free WiFi access.
Now after they click Continue they will actually have full WiFi access, and yes, some people will realise this and not complete the CPA offer or download an App. I know this is not perfect but I need to give them Internet access to complete the CPA offer. I'm sure with some coding knowledge it could be made so that they don't have full Internet access until they complete the offer.
So everything is now working, I just need to test it in a busy public area (where I live is very residential and no one is going to try and connect to it because they have WiFi/Internet at home). I will get a router which supports 3G/4G SIM cards with an RJ45 port (Ethernet cable) like this one and a 12v high Amp hour leisure/marine battery to make the whole set up portable and can be put in a bag as I don't have a car and I can go to any busy public place like a park, the beach or street.
In the bin?
Cato Minor
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CrazeWiz
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I will keep it updated! I did think about making a journey thread but don't want to hijack the OP's thread, if I do I will obviously give him credit and link back to it.
CrazeWiz
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The best mobile data deals here are £20/$26 a month for 30GB and £28/$36 a month for Unlimited data, so roughly a dollar a day, 1 or 2 conversions a day should cover costs.
CrazeWiz
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The same IP address is still the biggest issue, I contacted two affiliate managers, one said yes and one said no.
As I mentioned before if I stick with mostly mobile App installs there will be loads of unique data for each install, MAC address, IMEI number, OS version, location, network etc. Personally I think this will be enough proof that although they are all coming from the same IP address they are unique installs and I'm not trying to defraud the network. i.e. I'm not going to buy hundreds of $100 smartphones to make $0.30 from each App install. But we shall see!
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CrazeWiz
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Just another update for everyone.
I finally have everything set up and running. Decided to post this update using the Internet connection via my new portable WiFi CPA hotspot!
It has taken longer than expected due to being busy with a day job and searching eBay/Amazon for the cheapest equipment (some of the compatible dongles were over £100/$130! I found one that works (only 3G) for £20. It is not the fastest setup because I am only using 3G and cheap routers, if it works on a small scale I will invest in better/faster equipment.
Will do some real world testing over the next few days and report back, might even do a journey thread.
My setup is: Personal SIM card (with Data plan) in USB Internet Dongle>Dongle in 3G/4G router>Ethernet cable to Router with Open-Mesh/Cloudtrax installed.
I finally have everything set up and running. Decided to post this update using the Internet connection via my new portable WiFi CPA hotspot!
It has taken longer than expected due to being busy with a day job and searching eBay/Amazon for the cheapest equipment (some of the compatible dongles were over £100/$130! I found one that works (only 3G) for £20. It is not the fastest setup because I am only using 3G and cheap routers, if it works on a small scale I will invest in better/faster equipment.
Will do some real world testing over the next few days and report back, might even do a journey thread.
My setup is: Personal SIM card (with Data plan) in USB Internet Dongle>Dongle in 3G/4G router>Ethernet cable to Router with Open-Mesh/Cloudtrax installed.
Cool! I`m gonna follow this, I`m really tempted to try. Have been taking notes on what to buy etc.
Some more places to lurk I was thinking about....what about arenas, concert/sports stadium or even at harbours where cruice ships are docking..
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find the toilets in a shopping centre and find a lose celling panel hide the whole system for a day lol
watch stats at home
could use lift riff aswell
find a hiding place in a shopping mall very early be so much easer
QUOTE="CrazeWiz, post: 10288974, member: 804472"]Ok, So I have everything set up and working now.
I got a used cheap router off eBay for £20/$25, an EnGenius ECB3500 as I knew it was supported by Cloudtrax which i have used before and has a splash page and captive portal function. I flashed the router with Open-Mesh firmware (free) so I could then add it to my Cloudtrax account/dashboard (free). This is the system I used before to run a WiFi hotspot business so everything was pretty much set up already.
With Cloudtrax you can offer Free or Paid for access, I decided to leave the paid for option so people can either pay or use the free access, obviously 99% of people will choose the free option thinking they are being savvy and getting a good deal.
Below is the landing page they will see after connecting (this is the page I see when I am editing it, the page the user sees is more cleaned up).
So after they click 'Continue' on the Free Access I can set the URL they are sent to (see picture below). The URL I send them to is my CPA content locker saying they must download an App (for mobile) or complete an offer for Laptop/PC to get the free WiFi access.
Now after they click Continue they will actually have full WiFi access, and yes, some people will realise this and not complete the CPA offer or download an App. I know this is not perfect but I need to give them Internet access to complete the CPA offer. I'm sure with some coding knowledge it could be made so that they don't have full Internet access until they complete the offer.
So everything is now working, I just need to test it in a busy public area (where I live is very residential and no one is going to try and connect to it because they have WiFi/Internet at home). I will get a router which supports 3G/4G SIM cards with an RJ45 port (Ethernet cable) like this one and a 12v high Amp hour leisure/marine battery to make the whole set up portable and can be put in a bag as I don't have a car and I can go to any busy public place like a park, the beach or street.[/QUOTE]
watch stats at home
could use lift riff aswell
find a hiding place in a shopping mall very early be so much easer
QUOTE="CrazeWiz, post: 10288974, member: 804472"]Ok, So I have everything set up and working now.
I got a used cheap router off eBay for £20/$25, an EnGenius ECB3500 as I knew it was supported by Cloudtrax which i have used before and has a splash page and captive portal function. I flashed the router with Open-Mesh firmware (free) so I could then add it to my Cloudtrax account/dashboard (free). This is the system I used before to run a WiFi hotspot business so everything was pretty much set up already.
With Cloudtrax you can offer Free or Paid for access, I decided to leave the paid for option so people can either pay or use the free access, obviously 99% of people will choose the free option thinking they are being savvy and getting a good deal.
Below is the landing page they will see after connecting (this is the page I see when I am editing it, the page the user sees is more cleaned up).
So after they click 'Continue' on the Free Access I can set the URL they are sent to (see picture below). The URL I send them to is my CPA content locker saying they must download an App (for mobile) or complete an offer for Laptop/PC to get the free WiFi access.
Now after they click Continue they will actually have full WiFi access, and yes, some people will realise this and not complete the CPA offer or download an App. I know this is not perfect but I need to give them Internet access to complete the CPA offer. I'm sure with some coding knowledge it could be made so that they don't have full Internet access until they complete the offer.
So everything is now working, I just need to test it in a busy public area (where I live is very residential and no one is going to try and connect to it because they have WiFi/Internet at home). I will get a router which supports 3G/4G SIM cards with an RJ45 port (Ethernet cable) like this one and a 12v high Amp hour leisure/marine battery to make the whole set up portable and can be put in a bag as I don't have a car and I can go to any busy public place like a park, the beach or street.[/QUOTE]
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if you could rig it up like old fm pirate radio days Thu lift in a mull your earn thousands