Codliver
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- Jul 27, 2015
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The average attention span is 4 seconds. This has nothing to do with me or my sites, this is a fact unrelated to me at all. It's a result of the digital age and the growing internet.
In regards to my data, I believe I have well more than you do if you cannot grasp such simple common sense here. I have had sites rank for 50,000 word keywords #1 with no links and a 1000 word article. But that along with your data are irrelevant here. You are missing the point.
It's as if you are confusing both google and humans as an algorithm. There are queries which shorter articles are more appropriate. After all, you are writing for users first and search engines second. 14,500 words of unnecessary filler and redundancy will hurt you in the long run when no one reads it and bounces off before you actually answer their question.
For example, I encourage you to write a 15,000 word article on the keyword "How to Install a Wordpress Plugin" and see what results you get.
Popularity prevails. Quality over quantity prevails. This is not unlike keyword stuffing in the past. Unnecessary inclusion at the expense of quality or for the purpose of gaming a system will bite you in the ass when it hurts user experience.
But maybe you are right. You have cracked the code and figured it out; if every website in the world only wrote 15,000 word articles for every post they'd all be in a better position. Just format it right and you're golden. All those SEOs are wasting their time with puny 2-3k articles.
Yes, exactly, in your niches it works better. Your niches. It's not a rule. And no one is arguing longer content doesn't generally do better... it does. But I think I explained multiple times over why "the longer the better" and that writing 15,000 word articles isn't optimal if the quality will suffer.
In regards to pagination, splitting articles into multiple posts with the same title on the surface seems as though it would be a nightmare for seo and lead to content cannibalization; and you virtually never see these done outside of magazine style websites with terrible SEO. However, I know there is ways to tell Google essentially what's going on, but I've never looked into it enough to comment on it.
In regards to my data, I believe I have well more than you do if you cannot grasp such simple common sense here. I have had sites rank for 50,000 word keywords #1 with no links and a 1000 word article. But that along with your data are irrelevant here. You are missing the point.
It's as if you are confusing both google and humans as an algorithm. There are queries which shorter articles are more appropriate. After all, you are writing for users first and search engines second. 14,500 words of unnecessary filler and redundancy will hurt you in the long run when no one reads it and bounces off before you actually answer their question.
For example, I encourage you to write a 15,000 word article on the keyword "How to Install a Wordpress Plugin" and see what results you get.
Popularity prevails. Quality over quantity prevails. This is not unlike keyword stuffing in the past. Unnecessary inclusion at the expense of quality or for the purpose of gaming a system will bite you in the ass when it hurts user experience.
But maybe you are right. You have cracked the code and figured it out; if every website in the world only wrote 15,000 word articles for every post they'd all be in a better position. Just format it right and you're golden. All those SEOs are wasting their time with puny 2-3k articles.
I have personally found that longer articles with pagination work best (using actual data, not assumptions). Google sees one long article, visitors see a series of short ones. I personally hate pagination with a passion, but in the niches I cover, paginated articles get more engagement and a lower bounce rate than single-page articles of any length.
Yes, exactly, in your niches it works better. Your niches. It's not a rule. And no one is arguing longer content doesn't generally do better... it does. But I think I explained multiple times over why "the longer the better" and that writing 15,000 word articles isn't optimal if the quality will suffer.
In regards to pagination, splitting articles into multiple posts with the same title on the surface seems as though it would be a nightmare for seo and lead to content cannibalization; and you virtually never see these done outside of magazine style websites with terrible SEO. However, I know there is ways to tell Google essentially what's going on, but I've never looked into it enough to comment on it.