bbaird4444
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Need to send ten million SMS/Text Messages to Texas numbers. How do I get this done?
10 Million SMS/Texts to Texas - Need help!
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Those numbers opted in to receive sms from you?
German Rodriguez
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Twilio does that, i use them to send SMS to USA and Canada Mostly (subscribers users no SPAM)
bbaird4444
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I doubt my client got all 10 million numbers through opt-in. Im am trying to find a way to send them anyways that wont bite in the ass.
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To send out 10M SMS, costs will be high, - $75k as a minimum using services like twilio. Probably double or even triple that when using providers that accept fraudulent opt-ins.
I would probably try to diversify this amount between multiple SMS providers, e.g. - find all Twilio alternatives and send 100k from every one of them and see what happens.
Are you campaigning to be the next Governor of Texas?
bbaird4444
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Interesting thoughts thank you. The client mentioned that at one time they tried large volume texting and they had some software that would rotate several messages instead of one mass texting of one message. I guess this was a workaround to the services providers shutting down the campaigns all the time. Have you heard of anything like that ?
And yes I guess I am looking for providers that accept no opt-in numbers. Its not been easy to find them.
b2btradeworld
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Try twillio
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There are people in my country which sent millions of text, for verious fishing campaigns. To get bank accounts and stuff.
Once talked to someone working for a big telecom provider. He told me these guys literally drive arround with special devices loaded with sim cards. Driving arround the whole country to not get located.
Once talked to someone working for a big telecom provider. He told me these guys literally drive arround with special devices loaded with sim cards. Driving arround the whole country to not get located.
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Yes
I think the cheapest and best way to handle so big amount of messages would be to set up your own SMS sending hub.
You will need following things:
1. gsm modem pool
2. sim card pool
3. sim cards with unlimited SMS option
4. developer or engineer that can connect everything together
sim card pools - they usually come in 128 or 256 slots, so if every number can send ~300 SMS a day, then by using 256 card pool you could push 75k SMS a day which is not too shabby at all. Modems can be rotated so you will need less amount of modems than you have sim cards, which is good as it will help to reduce the costs.
Setup two or three arrays of those and you could push 150k SMS a day for almost no costs.
Here is how it looks in a picture:
All setup will cost probably under 10k including sending itself.
If pockets are deep and no interest in DIY projects, then as I mentioned - you have to look up at least 10-15 twilio competitors, hire an engineer that will write you a program that would then use them in rotation to send those SMS in bulk. Costs will be very high.
Oh yes, you will need at least 100 SMS variants and spin them as much as possible to avoid bans. Same for links and domains if there will be some. Text spinner is the easiest part in your project.
I think the cheapest and best way to handle so big amount of messages would be to set up your own SMS sending hub.
You will need following things:
1. gsm modem pool
2. sim card pool
3. sim cards with unlimited SMS option
4. developer or engineer that can connect everything together
sim card pools - they usually come in 128 or 256 slots, so if every number can send ~300 SMS a day, then by using 256 card pool you could push 75k SMS a day which is not too shabby at all. Modems can be rotated so you will need less amount of modems than you have sim cards, which is good as it will help to reduce the costs.
Setup two or three arrays of those and you could push 150k SMS a day for almost no costs.
Here is how it looks in a picture:
All setup will cost probably under 10k including sending itself.
If pockets are deep and no interest in DIY projects, then as I mentioned - you have to look up at least 10-15 twilio competitors, hire an engineer that will write you a program that would then use them in rotation to send those SMS in bulk. Costs will be very high.
bbaird4444
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This is an incredible idea. Thank you. I could recover those costs in the first month. Are you interested in consulting on the job? You sound like someone who could walk me through this.
laur.laurix
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They don't drive around not to get caught they drive around so the Sims can connect to diff cell towers....if you send lets say 5k SMS with the same content/link from the same cell tower you will get those Sims insta banned.
OP Sims racks with custom automation software can do the job easily....costs around 50k.
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This might be outdated, but for example AT&T users could receive text on their phone if you sent an email to [email protected] or something like that. I did it for a client 8 years ago. Same for sbcglobal, BellSouth, roadrunner, etc.
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Glad I could help. I'm not looking for consultation gigs, the project is interesting enough tho, you can reach out to me on telegram @luckyIsOnTelegram and I will drop you links to hardware you need to buy. Or we can keep the discussion open as I think that would benefit the community more.
Check the link here - https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20220213040650&SearchText=sim+bank
You must note, that you need two parts - sim bank which will hold the sim cards and the gsm modem part which will have the modems.
Software is included but I think for your case it would be better to do a custom solution if the budget allows it.
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Here is kida of "how to get this done" plan for you, OP:
1.Split your target list by mobile operator as long as you can. Every operator can have different inboxing rules, so it's obligatory.
2. For every operator, you need one mobile number (from a given operator) that will serve as a seed number just for testing if a given SMS will be inboxed or not. Some automation will be needed here. This part is also obligatory.
Now you have 2 options:
3A. Email to SMS (cheaper):
Many mobile operators in the USA allow email to SMS, so you can just send emails instead of SMS. The cost would be low compared to SMS sending. Read the article below for more information.
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/email-to-sms/You could do email to SMS with Amazon SES or different "methods". Overall, there are a lot of options here.
3B. SMS sending (more expensive, I would advise this only if 3A failed).
You would need SMS sending hardware as @lucky.sparks suggested. I would not suggest anything from Aliexpress. Most of the sim pools there are crap according to my experience. You don't want to deal with something like this. Since 2018, I've used hardware from https://www.ejointech.sg and I'm happy. The hardware is still working after 4 years. My friend's sim pool from Aliexpress was dead after a year. Personally, I use this one:
https://www.ejointech.sg/products/sms-modem/2g-gsm-sms-modem/sms-modem-acom632g-512
You need the ability to change the device's IMEI as long as it's legal in your country. It is possible that you will need to swap sim cards. It is also possible that the device's IMEI will be banned from a given network (that is why the ability to change the IMEI would be helpful, ejointech hardware can do this). You need to know if the given sim card will actually work at all on the given device. For example, some hadrware from Aliexpress and mine support only 2G network. AT&T stopped servicing its 2G network back in 2017 as far as I know. Wrong hardware and you cant send from an AT&T sim cards.
4. If you don't have technical and programming knowledge - you need a partner. Many things can go wrong. Without experience and skills it may be hard for you to put all the parts together.
1.Split your target list by mobile operator as long as you can. Every operator can have different inboxing rules, so it's obligatory.
2. For every operator, you need one mobile number (from a given operator) that will serve as a seed number just for testing if a given SMS will be inboxed or not. Some automation will be needed here. This part is also obligatory.
Now you have 2 options:
3A. Email to SMS (cheaper):
Many mobile operators in the USA allow email to SMS, so you can just send emails instead of SMS. The cost would be low compared to SMS sending. Read the article below for more information.
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/email-to-sms/You could do email to SMS with Amazon SES or different "methods". Overall, there are a lot of options here.
3B. SMS sending (more expensive, I would advise this only if 3A failed).
You would need SMS sending hardware as @lucky.sparks suggested. I would not suggest anything from Aliexpress. Most of the sim pools there are crap according to my experience. You don't want to deal with something like this. Since 2018, I've used hardware from https://www.ejointech.sg and I'm happy. The hardware is still working after 4 years. My friend's sim pool from Aliexpress was dead after a year. Personally, I use this one:
https://www.ejointech.sg/products/sms-modem/2g-gsm-sms-modem/sms-modem-acom632g-512
You need the ability to change the device's IMEI as long as it's legal in your country. It is possible that you will need to swap sim cards. It is also possible that the device's IMEI will be banned from a given network (that is why the ability to change the IMEI would be helpful, ejointech hardware can do this). You need to know if the given sim card will actually work at all on the given device. For example, some hadrware from Aliexpress and mine support only 2G network. AT&T stopped servicing its 2G network back in 2017 as far as I know. Wrong hardware and you cant send from an AT&T sim cards.
4. If you don't have technical and programming knowledge - you need a partner. Many things can go wrong. Without experience and skills it may be hard for you to put all the parts together.
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I agree with this, they are crappy but for a one-time project, I would go with crappy and cheap instead of investing in hardware that costs a lot without knowing that I really need it.
Here is a link to Alibaba from the same model(or similar) @satyr85 suggested - https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/acom632g-512-automatic-sim-card-rotation_62082146971.html
Fahdmus
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Please which is the best sim cards with unlimited SMS option for US and Canada ??
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Those which you can get for cheapest.
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Fahdmus
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Can you suggest me some options?