- Dec 1, 2011
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I tried to purchase 100,000 subscribers for a client who wanted more than I could offer, so I wanted to see if gothboy could actually do the 100,000 real subs. Boy was I in for a fucking let down and waste of time.
To give you a brief rundown of this, it started where I paid and he then kept giving me the run around on when he would start the order. He says few hours, it ends up being 12-24 hours. Its always the complete opposite of what he says. He then delivers half the order, they all drop and he strings me along for another 36 hours or so saying he will refill it. After about 72 hours after I ordered/paid initially, did I request a refund. He's since refused for every reason under the sun. I told him I'd initiate a dispute which he can refund even if he doesn't have the funds, he refuses.
As you can see from the chat, I grew more and more agitated with his bull shit and started to get heated. I wasted a week trying to get the order filled or my money back.
*Removed the channel URL and private info
To give you a brief rundown of this, it started where I paid and he then kept giving me the run around on when he would start the order. He says few hours, it ends up being 12-24 hours. Its always the complete opposite of what he says. He then delivers half the order, they all drop and he strings me along for another 36 hours or so saying he will refill it. After about 72 hours after I ordered/paid initially, did I request a refund. He's since refused for every reason under the sun. I told him I'd initiate a dispute which he can refund even if he doesn't have the funds, he refuses.
As you can see from the chat, I grew more and more agitated with his bull shit and started to get heated. I wasted a week trying to get the order filled or my money back.
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[1/4/17, 2:26:06 AM] ilyksocial: hey bro
[1/4/17, 2:26:15 AM] ilyksocial: we have started adding the subs
[1/4/17, 2:34:32 AM] Nick: You are outsourcing these, aren’t you
[1/4/17, 3:14:18 AM] ilyksocial: no bro, its from us, token needs update everytime i start the orders. so there is a bit delay with start.
[1/4/17, 6:01:42 AM] ilyksocial: i maybe able to provide you of min order 5k subs per channel we are testing it currently i will let u know.
[1/4/17, 10:21:26 AM] Nick: ok
[1/4/17, 10:36:50 PM] Nick: bro
[1/4/17, 10:36:53 PM] Nick: *REMOVED*
[1/4/17, 10:37:03 PM] Nick: *REMOVED*
[1/4/17, 10:37:05 PM] Nick: it says
[1/4/17, 10:37:40 PM] Nick: 13k only in live count
[1/4/17, 10:37:43 PM] Nick: and 60k on the channel
[1/4/17, 10:37:45 PM] Nick: any ideas?
[1/4/17, 10:38:42 PM] Nick: Like they all dropped
[1/4/17, 11:09:39 PM] ilyksocial: The system crashed while adding
[1/4/17, 11:10:07 PM] ilyksocial: No worries they will be refilled up in a few hours
[1/4/17, 11:13:17 PM] ilyksocial: 5k system tests successful
[1/4/17, 11:13:40 PM] ilyksocial: Max order per day limit 5
[1/4/17, 11:27:36 PM] Nick: Please start asap
[1/4/17, 11:27:40 PM] Nick: My client is pissed
[1/5/17, 12:47:22 AM] Nick: When are you going to start the order?
[1/5/17, 12:47:39 AM] Nick: I already waited forever....
[1/5/17, 2:24:20 AM] ilyksocial: no worries
[1/5/17, 2:24:27 AM] ilyksocial: this will be completed today
[1/5/17, 4:03:18 AM] ilyksocial: bro you here?
[1/5/17, 9:24:01 AM] Nick: yes?
[1/5/17, 9:24:13 AM] Nick: what are you doing.......
[1/5/17, 9:24:17 AM] Nick: Its still not
[1/5/17, 9:24:35 AM] Nick: this isn’t just a 100 dollar thing
[1/5/17, 9:24:38 AM] Nick: This is 1000
[1/5/17, 9:24:47 AM] Nick: this can’t happen
[1/5/17, 9:26:49 AM] Nick: sigh
[1/5/17, 9:32:48 AM] Nick: you told me a few hours 12 hours ago.....
[1/5/17, 10:13:52 AM] ilyksocial: bro we were checking why was your order not done as usuallly complete.
[1/5/17, 10:14:05 AM] ilyksocial: i even showed you a live example of our work
[1/5/17, 10:14:56 AM] ilyksocial: we are worried if youtube has limited adding to 50-60k per day.
[1/5/17, 10:15:10 AM] ilyksocial: we are adding the subscribers again but its adding slow currently
[1/5/17, 10:15:19 AM] ilyksocial: we may need 7 days to complete this
[1/5/17, 10:15:25 AM] Nick: wtf?
[1/5/17, 10:15:31 AM] Nick: I told people < 24 hours...
[1/5/17, 10:15:33 AM] Nick: Like you told me
[1/5/17, 10:15:39 AM] ilyksocial: or we may use https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3056283?hl=en
[1/5/17, 10:16:19 AM] ilyksocial: we have some channels of 100k+ already added.
[1/5/17, 10:16:26 AM] ilyksocial: so combining will work
[1/5/17, 10:16:49 AM] Nick: So you’re saying you now can’t deliver 100k subs?
[1/5/17, 10:17:42 AM] ilyksocial: we are already adding the subscribers to the channel currently bro.
[1/5/17, 10:18:02 AM] ilyksocial: if this does not work out we still have options as i have told u
[1/5/17, 10:18:43 AM] Nick: ok
[1/5/17, 10:18:50 AM] Nick: This client is going crazy
[1/5/17, 10:20:20 AM] ilyksocial: i understand bro, client worries is our worries too.
[1/5/17, 10:20:40 AM] ilyksocial: please tell the client we are working on it. we have options to complete this if this does not work out direct way.
[1/5/17, 10:21:00 AM] Nick: If you can’t do it fast within the next 8 hours I need a refund
[1/5/17, 10:21:08 AM] Nick: I sold it as being completed in < 24 hours
[1/5/17, 10:21:13 AM] Nick: Because thats what you told me
[1/5/17, 10:21:25 AM] Nick: So, if you can’t complete it fast, please just refund me
[1/5/17, 10:21:28 AM] ilyksocial: if we fail to add
[1/5/17, 10:21:37 AM] ilyksocial: of course i will completely refund you.
[1/5/17, 10:21:57 AM] Nick: When will you know
[1/5/17, 10:21:58 AM] ilyksocial: but i will recommend you to be patient. we are trying our best here
[1/5/17, 10:22:02 AM] Nick: I need to know within the next few hours
[1/5/17, 10:22:07 AM] Nick: I can’t keep telling this guy this stuff
[1/5/17, 10:22:27 AM] Nick: I’m not going to make my client wait if theres issues…. When will you know
[1/5/17, 10:23:10 AM] Nick: If you won’t know in the next few hours, then please just refund the order and I’ll refund my client
[1/5/17, 10:23:26 AM] Nick: He doesn’t want to wait 7 days, he’s already going crazy that its taken 48 hours and nothing has happened
[1/5/17, 10:25:29 AM] ilyksocial: i understand its bit expected in this situation.
[1/5/17, 10:25:52 AM] ilyksocial: ok i see & let you know shortly on this
[1/5/17, 10:26:07 AM] Nick: ok
[1/5/17, 10:38:45 AM] ilyksocial: bro if this does not works out today.
[1/5/17, 10:39:35 AM] ilyksocial: we can combine our 100k+ already added channel to his channel. & his channel be 100k+
[1/5/17, 10:39:42 AM] ilyksocial: let me know on this
[1/5/17, 10:40:07 AM] Nick: combine how?
[1/5/17, 10:40:10 AM] Nick: what do you mean
[1/5/17, 10:40:12 AM] Nick: I don’t get it
[1/5/17, 10:40:22 AM] ilyksocial: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3056283?hl=en
[1/5/17, 10:40:31 AM] ilyksocial: channels can be combined
[1/5/17, 10:40:59 AM] ilyksocial: so if a channel has 10k & the other has 100k
[1/5/17, 10:41:10 AM] ilyksocial: both combined will be 110k
[1/5/17, 10:41:13 AM] Nick: I want the 100k subscribers in 24 hours
[1/5/17, 10:41:21 AM] Nick: I don’t care how they get there
[1/5/17, 10:41:26 AM] Nick: I just need the 100k subscribers
[1/5/17, 10:41:34 AM] Nick: If you can’t do it in 24 hours, please just refund me
[1/5/17, 10:42:16 AM] ilyksocial: ok we are adding the subs currently. if that fails we will combine the channels.
[1/5/17, 10:42:34 AM] ilyksocial: will have 100k+
[1/5/17, 10:43:00 AM] Nick: It will be completed in 24 hours?
[1/5/17, 10:44:17 AM] ilyksocial: yeah we will .
[1/5/17, 10:44:40 AM] ilyksocial: i will keep you updated
[1/5/17, 10:44:55 AM] Nick: You’re sure it will get 100k in 24 hours?
[1/5/17, 10:53:31 AM] ilyksocial: yeah
[1/5/17, 10:53:54 AM] ilyksocial: also please inform the buyer we are adding the subs currently. if thats does not works out this time too.
[1/5/17, 10:54:17 AM] ilyksocial: he will have to cooperate with us to proceed with combination of channel
[1/5/17, 10:54:22 AM] Nick: No
[1/5/17, 10:54:25 AM] ilyksocial: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3056283?hl=en
[1/5/17, 10:54:26 AM] Nick: I’m not going to make him do that
[1/5/17, 10:54:30 AM] Nick: If you can’t deliver
[1/5/17, 10:54:35 AM] Nick: Then just refund and I’ll refund him
[1/5/17, 10:54:38 AM] Nick: I don’t want to waste his time
[1/5/17, 10:55:00 AM] ilyksocial: combination works if you can make it
[1/5/17, 10:55:14 AM] ilyksocial: or else u can wait tonight
[1/5/17, 10:55:31 AM] ilyksocial: if this fails will refund you
[1/5/17, 10:57:15 AM] Nick: ok
[1/5/17, 10:57:38 AM] Nick: Its moving so slow
[1/5/17, 10:57:42 AM] Nick: Will the speed increase?
[1/5/17, 11:00:23 AM] ilyksocial: yesterday it made dropped so we can proceed with same speed.
[1/5/17, 11:00:31 AM] ilyksocial: so we are adding slow currently
[1/5/17, 11:00:43 AM] ilyksocial: 5k subs currently are working fine!
[1/5/17, 11:00:50 AM] ilyksocial: but max order per day is 5
[1/5/17, 11:01:28 AM] Nick: Dude
[1/5/17, 11:01:32 AM] Nick: I don’t want 5k per day...
[1/5/17, 11:01:35 AM] Nick: I want 100k per day
[1/5/17, 11:01:44 AM] Nick: If you’re saying you’re delivering at 5k per day, I do not want that
[1/5/17, 11:01:48 AM] Nick: And just refund me
[1/5/17, 11:01:54 AM] ilyksocial: no no both are different
[1/5/17, 11:01:56 AM] Nick: Its either all 100k today or I’d like a refund
[1/5/17, 11:02:02 AM] ilyksocial: you didnt get me man
[1/5/17, 11:03:19 AM] ilyksocial: we are taking 5k subs orders. thats all i meant
[1/5/17, 11:03:37 AM] ilyksocial: 100k & 5k both are different
[1/5/17, 11:06:36 AM] Nick: Oh lol
[1/5/17, 11:06:45 AM] Nick: Alright and same price?
[1/5/17, 11:06:48 AM] Nick: $10 per 1k?
[1/5/17, 11:07:20 AM] Nick: When will the speed increase on the current order though?
[1/5/17, 11:07:23 AM] Nick: Its so slow right now
[1/5/17, 11:07:29 AM] Nick: the client wants to know
[1/5/17, 11:12:03 AM] ilyksocial: ohhh chill bro, you seems nervous from the order :)
[1/5/17, 11:13:34 AM] ilyksocial: the speed for we have set slow as yesterday had issue with fast
[1/5/17, 11:14:14 AM] ilyksocial: i cant be able provide this package for $10/k
[1/5/17, 11:14:32 AM] ilyksocial: will be selling at $20/k
[1/5/17, 11:14:58 AM] ilyksocial: you can have at $15/k
[1/5/17, 11:16:08 AM] ilyksocial: if you have orders today you may send.
[1/5/17, 11:16:39 AM] ilyksocial: 2 slots done for today . 3 slots remaining
[1/5/17, 11:19:29 AM] Nick: [1/5/17, 11:12:03 AM] ilyksocial: ohhh chill bro, you seems nervous from the order :)
[1/5/17, 11:13:34 AM] ilyksocial: the speed for we have set slow as yesterday had issue with fast
>>>>
Thats because its been 72 hours since they ordered, I tell people it will start in 12 hours and complete in < 24 hours
[1/5/17, 11:19:40 AM] Nick: You aren’t following through with that...
[1/5/17, 11:20:00 AM] Nick: When will the speed pick up on this order?
[1/5/17, 11:22:07 AM] ilyksocial: bro we are doing what we can using our system.
[1/5/17, 11:22:21 AM] ilyksocial: and all of the above youtube owns everything.
[1/5/17, 11:22:45 AM] ilyksocial: when makes changes we have the problem
[1/5/17, 11:22:51 AM] Nick: Thats my whole point
[1/5/17, 11:22:56 AM] Nick: I have asked you this 30 times
[1/5/17, 11:23:02 AM] Nick: You tell me it will get 100k in 24 hours
[1/5/17, 11:23:11 AM] Nick: The current speed is like 500 per hour, if that
[1/5/17, 11:23:21 AM] Nick: That will take 10+ days to deliver
[1/5/17, 11:23:24 AM] Nick: That is not what I sold
[1/5/17, 11:23:34 AM] Nick: If you can not deliver them all today, I need you to stop it and refund me
[1/5/17, 11:32:13 AM] ilyksocial: no worries, speed will be up soon.
[1/5/17, 11:32:20 AM] Nick: how soon?
[1/5/17, 11:32:32 AM] ilyksocial: yesterday there was a drop
[1/5/17, 11:32:42 AM] ilyksocial: so this issue is happening
[1/5/17, 11:32:47 AM] Nick: I know this....
[1/5/17, 11:32:53 AM] Nick: I’m asking you when will the speed increase
[1/5/17, 11:33:32 AM] ilyksocial: do you know
[1/5/17, 11:33:38 AM] ilyksocial: when there is drop
[1/5/17, 11:33:56 AM] ilyksocial: the subscribers who subed remains subed to the channel
[1/5/17, 11:34:09 AM] ilyksocial: but just the count is dropped?
[1/5/17, 11:34:18 AM] Nick: No
[1/5/17, 11:34:53 AM] ilyksocial: this what is youtube subscribers drop bro.
[1/5/17, 11:35:15 AM] ilyksocial: the subscribers counts drops the users remains subbed
[1/5/17, 11:35:29 AM] Nick: That doesn’t matter to me
[1/5/17, 11:35:34 AM] ilyksocial: they are adding at same speed now as of yesterday
[1/5/17, 11:35:36 AM] Nick: You are avoiding the question
[1/5/17, 11:35:38 AM] Nick: I want the 100k subs
[1/5/17, 11:35:42 AM] Nick: Thats what was purchased
[1/5/17, 11:35:45 AM] Nick: Your speed is too slow
[1/5/17, 11:35:51 AM] Nick: You’re not saying anything about it increasing
[1/5/17, 11:35:55 AM] Nick: You’re avoiding the question
[1/5/17, 11:35:56 AM] ilyksocial: as yesterday alot users already subbed to the same channel
[1/5/17, 11:36:17 AM] ilyksocial: its not displaying while we are adding the same over again
[1/5/17, 11:36:28 AM] ilyksocial: you will notice the speed up soon
[1/5/17, 11:36:52 AM] ilyksocial: this will not take 7-10 days. results will be up in 24 hrs
[1/5/17, 11:37:04 AM] ilyksocial: no worries if failed will refund (y)
[1/5/17, 11:50:01 AM] ilyksocial: bro if you have 5k orders you may send. we are gonna fill up 3 slots soon from our own personal channels of 3 orders slots not received.
[1/5/17, 11:50:30 AM] Nick: I’ll wait until you can test it more
[1/5/17, 11:50:37 AM] Nick: I don’t want to add it if there is going to be issues
[1/5/17, 11:52:08 AM] ilyksocial: systems gets failed anytime. even while adding regular orders .cant guarantee on this,
[1/5/17, 11:52:18 AM] ilyksocial: but yeah if we fail to add we will refund
[1/5/17, 11:52:39 AM] Nick: I’m not adding anything else to my panel until I see what happens with this 100k order
[1/5/17, 11:52:44 AM] Nick: Once thats completed we can go from there
[1/5/17, 11:53:00 AM] ilyksocial: ok bro
[1/5/17, 6:52:47 PM] Nick: bro
[1/5/17, 6:52:52 PM] Nick: All your shit dropped
[1/5/17, 6:52:53 PM] Nick: yet again
[1/5/17, 6:52:57 PM] Nick: refund my money please
[1/5/17, 6:53:00 PM] Nick: So I can refund my customer
[1/5/17, 6:53:06 PM] Nick: Your system is clearly broken
[1/5/17, 9:43:18 PM] Nick: hello?
[1/5/17, 10:56:21 PM] Nick: I need you to stop and refund the order
[1/6/17, 12:02:35 AM] Nick: Hello???
[1/6/17, 12:03:07 AM] Nick: I knew this was going to happen, I knew you wouldn’t be able to complete it like you said after the drop yesterday
[1/6/17, 1:46:50 AM] Nick: ?
[1/6/17, 4:03:54 AM] ilyksocial: hey bro
[1/6/17, 4:04:09 AM] ilyksocial: you can refund the buyer
[1/6/17, 4:05:04 AM] ilyksocial: the funds received from you has been sent to my bank
[1/6/17, 4:05:49 AM] ilyksocial: i need call paypal to refund your order as received your payment as mass payout.also to load the funds on paypal.
[1/6/17, 4:06:20 AM] ilyksocial: can take few hours. no worries. will be refunded
[1/6/17, 6:09:24 AM] ilyksocial: paypal is pretty much fucked up man
[1/6/17, 6:09:34 AM] ilyksocial: i am trying to refund you here
[1/6/17, 6:09:58 AM] ilyksocial: they are charging me 73 usd more to refund u
[1/6/17, 6:11:20 AM] ilyksocial: i called up their customer care to refund your order.
[1/6/17, 6:11:55 AM] ilyksocial: they could not say anything about it. they said supervisor will call me to resolve this
[1/6/17, 6:12:08 AM] ilyksocial: *REMOVED*
[1/6/17, 6:13:21 AM] ilyksocial: this i received
[1/6/17, 6:13:45 AM] ilyksocial: & this what they are charging me when i am trying to refund u
[1/6/17, 6:13:46 AM] ilyksocial: *REMOVED*
[1/6/17, 6:13:55 AM] ilyksocial: 73 usd difference
[1/6/17, 11:24:21 AM] Nick: When will I get my refund
[1/6/17, 11:24:28 AM] Nick: Why does your system not work.......
[1/6/17, 11:24:33 AM] Nick: Now I have to remove it from my side
[1/6/17, 11:24:38 AM] Nick: Such a waste of time for me
[1/6/17, 11:32:54 AM] ilyksocial: awaiting call from the supervisor
[1/6/17, 11:33:08 AM] ilyksocial: to resolve this
[1/6/17, 11:33:21 AM] ilyksocial: yeah u can remove that
[1/6/17, 11:34:35 AM] ilyksocial: also as i have said if you can accept combining then this order could be completed.
[1/6/17, 11:35:00 AM] ilyksocial: youtube took off the system , its not working currently
[1/6/17, 12:07:40 PM] Nick: Sigh
[1/6/17, 4:11:37 PM] Nick: Any word?
[1/6/17, 4:11:45 PM] Nick: I’ll just dispute it and then you refund that way
[1/6/17, 4:12:33 PM] Nick: And it will put your account at a negative balance until you get more funds
[1/6/17, 4:14:37 PM] Nick: Opened
[1/6/17, 4:14:43 PM] Nick: Now go to it and press refund payment
[1/6/17, 4:14:46 PM] Nick: Or issue refund
[1/6/17, 4:14:47 PM] Nick: whatever
[1/7/17, 12:27:03 AM] ilyksocial: I havent received call from the supervisor yet.
[1/7/17, 12:27:09 AM] ilyksocial: gonna call them again now
[1/7/17, 12:27:31 AM] ilyksocial: i can see the transaction disputed.
[1/7/17, 12:28:17 AM] ilyksocial: i hope they resolve out our case
[1/7/17, 12:38:03 AM] ilyksocial: they said they will forward this to their team. i will have a call from them in 24-72 hrs.
[1/7/17, 1:51:24 AM] Nick: Bro
[1/7/17, 1:51:27 AM] Nick: From the dispute
[1/7/17, 1:51:29 AM] Nick: Press refund
[1/7/17, 1:51:31 AM] Nick: Its that simple
[1/7/17, 1:51:37 AM] Nick: The funds are already out of your account
[1/7/17, 6:16:23 AM] ilyksocial: its charging the same amount. waiting them for this to resolve.
[1/8/17, 9:57:41 PM] Nick: Bro
[1/8/17, 9:57:43 PM] Nick: I need my refund
[1/8/17, 9:57:48 PM] Nick: Refund the payment
[1/9/17, 1:20:56 AM] ilyksocial: Bro if you cant wait for them to resolve.
you will have to consider the extra amount charged from your end. i am not going to pay more than what i have received.
for this you may cancel the dispute. I will make refund payment of exactly what i've received. would be about 73 usd less.
[1/9/17, 1:21:23 AM] ilyksocial: you have already disputed the payment & I also have called them 2 times for this.
they should take actions & resolve this soon. I am waiting their call.or you may contact them to resolve this faster.
[1/9/17, 1:21:55 AM] ilyksocial: or you can initiate chargeback from your card. you will have the payments anyways.
[1/9/17, 8:31:37 AM] Nick: This is not my problem
[1/9/17, 8:31:40 AM] Nick: This is your problem
[1/9/17, 8:31:43 AM] Nick: Your system issue
[1/9/17, 8:31:48 AM] Nick: You need to refund me my money now
[1/9/17, 8:31:59 AM] Nick: I already made a chargeback
[1/9/17, 8:32:01 AM] Nick: Its the same thing
[1/9/17, 8:32:02 AM] Nick: Refund it
[1/9/17, 8:35:11 AM] Nick: Again, this is not my problem. This is yours, you need to refund my money. I’ve already waiting long enough
[1/9/17, 9:08:50 AM] Nick: Its already been several days
[1/9/17, 9:08:53 AM] Nick: I’m tired of waiting
[1/9/17, 9:09:00 AM] Nick: You should have already done something to resolve this
[1/9/17, 10:15:17 AM] ilyksocial: its not my problem either
[1/9/17, 10:15:42 AM] ilyksocial: its paypals problem that you have chosen to pay with. so you have to face problem that paypal creates
[1/9/17, 10:15:59 AM] Nick: So
[1/9/17, 10:16:01 AM] ilyksocial: if you want now. i cant send you more than what i have received.
[1/9/17, 10:16:07 AM] Nick: Fine
[1/9/17, 10:16:08 AM] Nick: Refund it
[1/9/17, 10:16:10 AM] Nick: Less the fee
[1/9/17, 10:16:12 AM] ilyksocial: so you will have to consideer what i have told you above
[1/9/17, 10:16:32 AM] ilyksocial: there is nothing else can be done here besides wait for paypal to resolve this.
[1/9/17, 10:16:46 AM] Nick: lol I love how its not your problem
[1/9/17, 10:16:51 AM] ilyksocial: & i have already called them 2 times. & waiting their supervisors call.
[1/9/17, 10:16:52 AM] Nick: YOU told me to send via paypal
[1/9/17, 10:16:55 AM] Nick: I didn’t force you to do that
[1/9/17, 10:16:59 AM] Nick: This is YOUR problem, not mine
[1/9/17, 10:17:20 AM] ilyksocial: if you have initiated chargeback from your card. you will recieve your funds anyways.
[1/9/17, 10:17:29 AM] ilyksocial: i hope this is clear & makes sense
[1/9/17, 10:17:35 AM] Nick: I don’t have time to yet again deal with your issues
[1/9/17, 10:17:42 AM] Nick: Your service doesn’t work, your paypal has issues etc etc
[1/9/17, 10:17:46 AM] Nick: These are not my problem
[1/9/17, 10:17:48 AM] Nick: Refund my money
[1/9/17, 10:17:53 AM] Nick: I’m sick of dealing with you
[1/9/17, 12:50:22 PM] Nick: Hello??
[1/9/17, 12:50:31 PM] Nick: Refund the transaction
[1/9/17, 1:46:11 PM] ilyksocial: Bro what i have said was very clear btw.
[1/9/17, 1:46:32 PM] ilyksocial: do not expect me to pay more that what i have received. as i am not going to do that *
[1/9/17, 1:46:54 PM] ilyksocial: it does not make sense to repeat same thing over & over again & argue over this.
[1/9/17, 1:47:08 PM] ilyksocial: arguing over this will not resolve anything.
[1/9/17, 1:47:38 PM] ilyksocial: I have said what i had to say on this, & you have the options.
[1/9/17, 1:47:46 PM] ilyksocial: & i have also did what i could do.
[1/9/17, 1:51:27 PM] Nick: Do you not understand how paypal works?
[1/9/17, 1:51:32 PM] Nick: When you refund me,it refunds me and you
[1/9/17, 1:51:36 PM] Nick: You don’t pay the fee
[1/9/17, 1:51:53 PM] Nick: Your account would be - $1000 USDs
[1/9/17, 1:52:00 PM] Nick: Mine would be $1000
[1/9/17, 1:52:03 PM] Nick: You get the fees back
[1/9/17, 1:52:07 PM] Nick: I get my payment back in full
[1/9/17, 1:52:30 PM] Nick: This is business. You sold me a service, your service does not work, I’m requesting a refund. I’ve already waited days, I’m done waiting.
[1/9/17, 1:52:39 PM] Nick: You should have already resolved the issue on your side
[1/9/17, 1:52:43 PM] Nick: But theres no fees lost
[1/9/17, 1:52:54 PM] Nick: When you refund me, I get the full 1k back and the fees are voided
[1/9/17, 1:53:01 PM] Nick: You would not lose a thing
[1/9/17, 1:53:44 PM] Nick: Did what you could do? You have my 1k. You are not refunding me......
[1/9/17, 1:53:46 PM] Nick: I’m waiting
[1/9/17, 1:53:52 PM] Nick: You have to click 1 button
[1/9/17, 1:53:55 PM] Nick: What is the confusion
[1/9/17, 1:54:03 PM] Nick: You don’t lose more money by refunding me, thats ridiculous
[1/9/17, 1:54:12 PM] Nick: Everything you got will be refunded and all FEEs are voided
[1/9/17, 1:54:31 PM] Nick: If the transaction is refunded, there are no longer fees for the transaction
[1/9/17, 1:54:34 PM] Nick: Stop wasting my time
[1/9/17, 1:54:49 PM] Nick: I want a refund today or I’m going to shitlist you on BHW
[1/9/17, 2:27:54 PM] ilyksocial: I have already given you options.
[1/9/17, 2:28:11 PM] ilyksocial: i am not taking your funds away & escaping to be shitlisted anyways.
[1/9/17, 2:28:29 PM] ilyksocial: i understand your funds are with me & i never said i will not give them back to you
[1/9/17, 2:28:56 PM] ilyksocial: i am willing to send you if you agree to receive as i have said.
[1/9/17, 2:29:08 PM] ilyksocial: i have shared you the differences.
[1/9/17, 2:29:29 PM] ilyksocial: you can wait for paypal to resolve this. i have already made 2 calls to them.
[1/9/17, 2:29:52 PM] ilyksocial: man you own a lamborgini & a range rover. i have seen you bragging in bhw
[1/9/17, 2:30:13 PM] ilyksocial: waiting for 1k for paypal to resolve should not hurt your ass like this
[1/9/17, 2:30:28 PM] ilyksocial: $73 in this transaction should be like a penny to u lol :D
[1/9/17, 2:32:38 PM] Nick: I don’t want you to send me
[1/9/17, 2:32:58 PM] Nick: I want you to press refund on the transaction
[1/9/17, 2:33:00 PM] Nick: I didn’t get anything
[1/9/17, 2:33:05 PM] Nick: So, you need to refund my transaction
[1/9/17, 2:33:10 PM] Nick: The full transaction
[1/9/17, 2:33:19 PM] Nick: If somehow funds ar lost when you do that, sure i’ll accept that
[1/9/17, 2:33:22 PM] Nick: But thats not how that works
[1/9/17, 2:33:29 PM] Nick: Now, go press refund and give me my money back
[1/9/17, 2:33:34 PM] Nick: I’ve already waited 3 days
[1/9/17, 2:34:27 PM] Nick: The issue is, I’ve been patient. Its not about the money, its the principal. I should not have to wait to get my money back, when your service doesn’t work. I already waited 3 days, what do you expect me to do, wait weeks?
[1/9/17, 2:34:47 PM] Nick: Further, I never once was bragging on BHW. There was a thread about what car do you have, I posted mine…. Not sure how thats bragging.
[1/9/17, 3:12:36 PM] ilyksocial: that was charging the same. i called customer service. they were unable to resolve or explain on this case.
[1/9/17, 3:12:45 PM] ilyksocial: so they have escalated the issue to supervisor.
[1/9/17, 3:13:13 PM] ilyksocial: as you have chosen paypal as your payment method. you have to be patient for paypal to resolve this case.
[1/9/17, 3:13:28 PM] ilyksocial: i cant do anything if they also make you wait weeks.
[1/9/17, 3:13:33 PM] Nick: lol
[1/9/17, 3:13:36 PM] Nick: I chose it?
[1/9/17, 3:13:41 PM] Nick: You chose it
[1/9/17, 3:13:50 PM] ilyksocial: you may call or contact them with your concern. maybe they can make faster
[1/9/17, 3:13:52 PM] Nick: You gave me a paypal email to send to
[1/9/17, 3:13:57 PM] Nick: No
[1/9/17, 3:14:00 PM] Nick: You go into paypal
[1/9/17, 3:14:01 PM] Nick: right now
[1/9/17, 3:14:04 PM] Nick: and press refund the payment
[1/9/17, 3:14:07 PM] Nick: Or I’m shitlisting you
[1/9/17, 3:14:08 PM] ilyksocial: i will make refunds once i get this resolved from them
[1/9/17, 3:14:17 PM] Nick: And posting all over your thread about thsi
[1/9/17, 3:14:21 PM] Nick: This is retarded
[1/9/17, 3:14:24 PM] Nick: I’m sick of wasting my time
[1/9/17, 3:14:29 PM] Nick: No
[1/9/17, 3:14:33 PM] Nick: You’ll make the refund now
[1/9/17, 3:14:40 PM] ilyksocial: if you are impatient
[1/9/17, 3:14:42 PM] Nick: Or I’m shit listing you and posting this bull shit all over your BHW thread
[1/9/17, 3:14:45 PM] Nick: Impatient?
[1/9/17, 3:14:46 PM] ilyksocial: do whatever you like
[1/9/17, 3:14:48 PM] Nick: Its been 3 days
[1/9/17, 3:14:53 PM] ilyksocial: i am not making any stories here
[1/9/17, 3:14:54 PM] Nick: Pres
[1/9/17, 3:14:55 PM] Nick: Fucking
[1/9/17, 3:14:57 PM] Nick: Refund
[1/9/17, 3:14:58 PM] Nick: On
[1/9/17, 3:14:58 PM] Nick: The
[1/9/17, 3:15:00 PM] Nick: Dispute
[1/9/17, 3:15:03 PM] Nick: Its that simple
[1/9/17, 3:15:06 PM] Nick: What don’t you get
[1/9/17, 3:15:12 PM] Nick: You have to login and press 1 fucking button
[1/9/17, 3:15:16 PM] Nick: Why are you wasting my fucking time?
[1/9/17, 3:16:31 PM] ilyksocial: i dont have time to waste arguing with you. i did what i could do. & i had said what i could say.
[1/9/17, 3:16:41 PM] Nick: Do you not understand?
[1/9/17, 3:16:42 PM] Nick: Tell me
[1/9/17, 3:16:45 PM] ilyksocial: after then its upto you.
[1/9/17, 3:16:48 PM] Nick: Do you not get this?
[1/9/17, 3:16:50 PM] Nick: Its fucking simple
[1/9/17, 3:16:56 PM] Nick: I don’t get why its so hard for you to grasp
[1/9/17, 3:16:59 PM] Nick: You login
[1/9/17, 3:17:02 PM] Nick: Go to the dispute I started
[1/9/17, 3:17:04 PM] Nick: Press
[1/9/17, 3:17:05 PM] Nick: REFUND
[1/9/17, 3:17:06 PM] Nick: Boom
[1/9/17, 3:17:07 PM] Nick: Done
[1/9/17, 3:17:08 PM] Nick: We’re done
[1/9/17, 3:17:13 PM] ilyksocial: On 1/9/17, at 3:12 PM, ilyksocial wrote:
> that was charging the same. i called customer service. they were unable to resolve or explain on this case.
[1/9/17, 3:17:18 PM] Nick: Stop wasting my time. Login to your account and refund it
[1/9/17, 3:17:25 PM] Nick: Sure
[1/9/17, 3:17:26 PM] Nick: Go for it
[1/9/17, 3:17:28 PM] Nick: Go refund it for that
[1/9/17, 3:17:31 PM] Nick: I’ll take the loss
[1/9/17, 3:17:33 PM] Nick: Do it now
[1/9/17, 3:17:35 PM] Nick: I’m sick of this shit
[1/9/17, 3:18:14 PM] ilyksocial: On 1/9/17, at 1:20 AM, ilyksocial wrote:
> for this you may cancel the dispute. I will make refund payment of exactly what i've received. would be about 73 usd less.
[1/9/17, 3:18:50 PM] Nick: Go for it
[1/9/17, 3:18:54 PM] Nick: Refund me
[1/9/17, 3:19:09 PM] Nick: Refund the transaction for the full amount. If they take a fee, I’ll deal with it
[1/9/17, 3:19:59 PM] ilyksocial: On 1/9/17, at 3:18 PM, ilyksocial wrote:
> for this you may cancel the dispute. I will make refund payment of exactly what i've received. would be about 73 usd less.
[1/9/17, 3:20:05 PM] Nick: Are you blind?
[1/9/17, 3:20:09 PM] Nick: Go refund the transaction
[1/9/17, 3:20:15 PM] Nick: If it takes a fee, thats fine, I’ll deal with it
[1/9/17, 3:20:29 PM] ilyksocial: I am not directly refunding its charging on me.
[1/9/17, 3:20:37 PM] ilyksocial: how you take the fee?
[1/9/17, 3:20:49 PM] Nick: You are though
[1/9/17, 3:20:54 PM] Nick: You’re going to directly refund me
[1/9/17, 3:20:57 PM] Nick: You’re going to go to the dispute
[1/9/17, 3:20:59 PM] Nick: And press
[1/9/17, 3:21:00 PM] Nick: REFUND
[1/9/17, 3:21:03 PM] Nick: Its that fucking easy
[1/9/17, 3:21:06 PM] Nick: What are you waiting for
[1/9/17, 3:21:09 PM] ilyksocial: yeah thats what i did
[1/9/17, 3:21:17 PM] ilyksocial: i have shown you the difference
[1/9/17, 3:21:20 PM] Nick: You aren’t reading what I’m saying
[1/9/17, 3:21:25 PM] Nick: I said go do that
[1/9/17, 3:21:31 PM] Nick: If it charges a fee, I’ll deal with it
[1/9/17, 3:21:44 PM] ilyksocial: i will call customer care support tomorrow
[1/9/17, 3:21:54 PM] Nick: No
[1/9/17, 3:21:55 PM] ilyksocial: you can be with me on the line while i call
[1/9/17, 3:21:58 PM] Nick: You’ll go press refund now
[1/9/17, 3:22:01 PM] Nick: No
[1/9/17, 3:22:03 PM] Nick: Go to my dispute
[1/9/17, 3:22:06 PM] Nick: And refund my money
[1/9/17, 3:22:11 PM] Nick: Ive had enough of your games
[1/9/17, 3:22:24 PM] Nick: First its one thing, then I agree to that, now you want to wait another day
[1/9/17, 3:22:27 PM] Nick: Go to the dispute, press refund
[1/9/17, 3:23:07 PM] ilyksocial: I said what i could say on this
[1/9/17, 3:23:14 PM] ilyksocial: i did what i could do
[1/9/17, 3:23:17 PM] Nick: So you’re denying refunding me?
[1/9/17, 3:23:19 PM] Nick: Dude
[1/9/17, 3:23:21 PM] Nick: You didn't
[1/9/17, 3:23:22 PM] ilyksocial: rest i do not want to argue
[1/9/17, 3:23:23 PM] Nick: You need to pres
[1/9/17, 3:23:25 PM] Nick: 1
[1/9/17, 3:23:27 PM] Nick: button
[1/9/17, 3:23:29 PM] Nick: 1 button
[1/9/17, 3:23:33 PM] Nick: is it that hard?
[1/9/17, 3:23:46 PM] ilyksocial: I have shared u the details
[1/9/17, 3:23:50 PM] Nick: lol
[1/9/17, 3:23:59 PM] ilyksocial: rest you can speak over support to resolve this.
[1/9/17, 3:24:06 PM] Nick: No
[1/9/17, 3:24:11 PM] ilyksocial: nothing else i can do
[1/9/17, 3:24:12 PM] Nick: You’re going to go press refund
[1/9/17, 3:24:14 PM] Nick: On my dispute
[1/9/17, 3:24:19 PM] Nick: Or I’m starting a shitlist now
[1/9/17, 3:24:22 PM] Nick: and posting in your thread
[1/9/17, 3:25:26 PM] ilyksocial: do whatever you like if you are impatient
[1/9/17, 3:25:32 PM] Nick: Login to paypal - click resolution center - see my dispute - click it - press refund
[1/9/17, 3:25:37 PM] Nick: Impatient? Its been 3 days...
[1/9/17, 3:25:42 PM] Nick: You’re refusing to refund me
[1/9/17, 3:25:45 PM] Nick: tell me this
[1/9/17, 3:25:50 PM] Nick: Why can you not go press refund in the dispute?
[1/9/17, 3:25:51 PM] Nick: Why?
[1/9/17, 3:26:07 PM] ilyksocial: I said i will not send more than what i have recieved
[1/9/17, 3:26:28 PM] ilyksocial: & i have already told you how u can receive if u cant wait
[1/9/17, 3:26:50 PM] ilyksocial: if you cant do or wait for paypal to resolve
[1/9/17, 3:27:08 PM] ilyksocial: do not waste time arguing. as nothing will happen doing this
[1/9/17, 3:28:28 PM] Nick: THATS FINE
[1/9/17, 3:28:31 PM] Nick: Go refund it
[1/9/17, 3:28:39 PM] Nick: Refund what you received
[1/9/17, 3:29:03 PM] Nick: Why do I need to wait? When you can so easily press a single button and refund me.
[1/9/17, 3:29:05 PM] Nick: Its so simple
[1/9/17, 3:29:08 PM] Nick: Why are you wasting my time?
[1/9/17, 3:29:16 PM] Nick: Go refund me, sure, I’ll take a loss
[1/9/17, 3:29:19 PM] Nick: GO do it now
[1/9/17, 3:32:03 PM] Nick: Hello?
[1/9/17, 3:32:55 PM] ilyksocial: our conversation is just going nowhere bro
[1/9/17, 3:33:03 PM] Nick: What don’t you understand
[1/9/17, 3:33:05 PM] Nick: Its so simple
[1/9/17, 3:33:12 PM] Nick: You literally just press refund on the payment
[1/9/17, 3:33:16 PM] Nick: Explain to me why you can’t do that
[1/9/17, 3:33:17 PM] Nick: tell me why
[1/9/17, 3:33:27 PM] Nick: It effects you in no way at all
[1/9/17, 3:33:36 PM] Nick: I get the refund, your account balance stays where it is
[1/9/17, 3:33:42 PM] Nick: You are already at a negative balance
[1/9/17, 3:33:48 PM] Nick: Because I disputed the transaction
[1/9/17, 3:33:55 PM] Nick: So, when you refund it, nothing changes
[1/9/17, 3:34:03 PM] Nick: So, why can’t you just go into the dispute and refund it?
[1/9/17, 3:36:03 PM] Nick: Just answer me that
[1/9/17, 3:36:08 PM] Nick: Tell me how that effects you
[1/9/17, 3:36:18 PM] Nick: Your account balance is already negative because I started the dispute
[1/9/17, 3:36:21 PM] Nick: Not a thing changes
[1/9/17, 3:36:29 PM] Nick: If you press refund, it stays negative
[1/9/17, 3:36:32 PM] Nick: It doesn’t change anything
[1/9/17, 3:36:40 PM] Nick: If you refuse to do that, you’re simply trying to scam me
[1/9/17, 3:36:45 PM] Nick: And I’m going to start a shitlist
[1/9/17, 3:38:22 PM] ilyksocial: i have shared you the screenshots how that effects me.
[1/9/17, 3:39:03 PM] ilyksocial: & i said you i will call paypal tomo. along with you.
[1/9/17, 3:39:10 PM] ilyksocial: but u are sooo impatient
[1/9/17, 3:39:15 PM] Nick: No, you said you can refund it if I want to lose $73
[1/9/17, 3:39:16 PM] ilyksocial: you need like now
[1/9/17, 3:39:18 PM] Nick: I’ll lose $73
[1/9/17, 3:39:24 PM] Nick: Impatient?
[1/9/17, 3:39:27 PM] ilyksocial: cancel the dispute
[1/9/17, 3:39:27 PM] Nick: I’ve waited 3 days?
[1/9/17, 3:39:31 PM] Nick: You want me to wait a month?
[1/9/17, 3:39:39 PM] ilyksocial: i will send you exactly as i have received
[1/9/17, 3:39:43 PM] Nick: No
[1/9/17, 3:39:46 PM] Nick: You will go to my dispute
[1/9/17, 3:39:49 PM] Nick: And you will press refund
[1/9/17, 3:39:51 PM] Nick: Its that simple
[1/9/17, 3:39:54 PM] Nick: I’m not closing anything
[1/9/17, 3:39:55 PM] ilyksocial: its charging me more. sending you directly
[1/9/17, 3:39:58 PM] Nick: And if you don’t do that right now
[1/9/17, 3:40:01 PM] Nick: I’m starting the shitlist
[1/9/17, 3:40:01 PM] ilyksocial: so i am not going to do that
[1/9/17, 3:40:03 PM] Nick: I’m sick of this shit
[1/9/17, 3:40:10 PM] Nick: Right
[1/9/17, 3:40:15 PM] Nick: Why the hell would you send me directly?
[1/9/17, 3:40:16 PM] Nick: Why
[1/9/17, 3:40:16 PM] ilyksocial: I am tired arguing with u man
[1/9/17, 3:40:18 PM] Nick: I don’t want that
[1/9/17, 3:40:22 PM] Nick: I want the transaction refunded
[1/9/17, 3:40:22 PM] ilyksocial: i have said what i had to say
[1/9/17, 3:40:27 PM] ilyksocial: i did what i could do
[1/9/17, 3:40:31 PM] Nick: I don’t want the funds sent back to me....
[1/9/17, 3:40:31 PM] ilyksocial: you have the options
[1/9/17, 3:40:37 PM] Nick: I never would take the transaction being sent to me
[1/9/17, 3:40:39 PM] ilyksocial: after then u can do what u like
[1/9/17, 3:40:43 PM] Nick: I need the transaction refunded
[1/9/17, 3:40:52 PM] Nick: I have what options lol
[1/9/17, 3:40:59 PM] Nick: Ok, shitlist incoming
[1/9/17, 3:41:05 PM] ilyksocial: scroll & read up
[1/9/17, 3:41:07 PM] Nick: All that hard work getting a thread on BHW
[1/9/17, 3:41:20 PM] Nick: Gonna scam me and not be able to use your site
[1/9/17, 3:41:22 PM] Nick: Congrats
[1/9/17, 3:41:24 PM] Nick: I’m done here
[1/9/17, 3:41:30 PM] Nick: If you can’t understand the simple facts
[1/9/17, 3:41:38 PM] ilyksocial: i am not scamming at all. just you are impatient
[1/9/17, 3:41:43 PM] Nick: I’ll take it to BHW and make sure no one else gets scammed
[1/9/17, 3:41:47 PM] Nick: No I’m not
[1/9/17, 3:41:49 PM] Nick: You are a scammer
[1/9/17, 3:41:52 PM] Nick: Tell me this then
[1/9/17, 3:41:56 PM] Nick: Why can’t you go press refund?
[1/9/17, 3:41:56 PM] Nick: Why
[1/9/17, 3:41:57 PM] ilyksocial: i said i will speak with paypal infornt of you on this
[1/9/17, 3:42:01 PM] Nick: How hard is it to press one button
[1/9/17, 3:42:03 PM] ilyksocial: if i am wrong you can tell me
[1/9/17, 3:42:04 PM] Nick: Tell me why you can’t do that
[1/9/17, 3:42:14 PM] Nick: I don’t fucking care to talk to them
[1/9/17, 3:42:18 PM] Nick: This is your issue, not mine
[1/9/17, 3:42:25 PM] Nick: All you have to do is press refund on the payment
[1/9/17, 3:42:27 PM] Nick: Its that fucking easy
[1/9/17, 3:42:28 PM] ilyksocial: after this do whatever you like man
[1/9/17, 3:42:31 PM] Nick: No
[1/9/17, 3:42:37 PM] Nick: Answer my question
[1/9/17, 3:42:42 PM] Nick: Why can’t you go into the dispute
[1/9/17, 3:42:44 PM] Nick: And press refund
[1/9/17, 3:42:46 PM] Nick: Answer me that
[1/9/17, 3:43:08 PM] ilyksocial: what i have said is clear & makes sense
[1/9/17, 3:44:04 PM] Nick: Tell me
[1/9/17, 3:44:05 PM] Nick: Right now
[1/9/17, 3:44:09 PM] Nick: Why you can’t press refund
[1/9/17, 3:44:11 PM] Nick: On my dispute
[1/9/17, 3:44:14 PM] Nick: Explain that to me
[1/9/17, 3:44:58 PM] Nick: Starting it all now on BHW
[1/9/17, 3:45:07 PM] ilyksocial: you are repeating the same
[1/9/17, 3:45:11 PM] Nick: Yup
[1/9/17, 3:45:11 PM] ilyksocial: i am repeating the same
[1/9/17, 3:45:12 PM] Nick: I’m done
[1/9/17, 3:45:18 PM] Nick: You are trying to scam me clearly
[1/9/17, 3:45:23 PM] Nick: You’ll be dealt with now
[1/9/17, 3:45:37 PM] ilyksocial: if i were to scam you i would have already escaped
[1/9/17, 3:45:42 PM] ilyksocial: besides speaking you here
[1/9/17, 3:45:50 PM] Nick: I’m done talking to you here
[1/9/17, 3:45:55 PM] Nick: You can talk on the shitlist now
[1/9/17, 3:46:02 PM] ilyksocial: & also saying that i will speak with paypal infront of you
[1/9/17, 3:46:04 PM] Nick: Posted on your thread warning everyone already
[1/9/17, 3:46:06 PM] ilyksocial: about your case
[1/9/17, 3:46:07 PM] Nick: Shitlist coming now
[1/9/17, 3:46:07 PM] Nick: bye
[1/9/17, 3:46:27 PM] ilyksocial: okay man (y)
[1/9/17, 3:47:02 PM] ilyksocial: just this gonna effect your business. you will be painted as reseller
[1/9/17, 3:47:29 PM] ilyksocial: anyways do whatever u like
[1/9/17, 3:47:40 PM] ilyksocial: i got tired explaining you same over & over agian
[1/9/17, 3:47:52 PM] ilyksocial: our conversation is there
[1/9/17, 3:48:16 PM] ilyksocial: people can read & have their opinion about happened*Removed the channel URL and private info
