Scammed by BugThishhic

[alwaystoday]

Relating to: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/css-html-expert.891407/#post-9442210

I posted that needed someone to help solve a html/css problem i was having. I'd usually get through it myself, but I thought I'd give the HAF a try.

I posted I'd pay $15 subject to the work being completed. I was contacted by BugThishhic on skype. He said he could do it. I said can we talk in voice he said yes he needed to get a coffee he was cold. I said sure. He said to call him 5 minutes later. I did, showed him the problem I was having, it took about 3 minutes it was fairly simple. He said he can have it fixed in 10 minutes.

He said he wanted £20 instead of $15. I said I thought $15 was fair for 15 minutes work.

He said ok sure, "can't blame me for trying". He was about to start, and then said to send him the $15. I said I'd usually do after it was completed, but he mentioned how he had been here since 2011. For $15 I thought fine I'll trust him. I asked him to post in my thread, he posted that he was looking forward to working with me. I asked him to edit it, to confirm he was taking money in advance he did. I sent him $15 via bitcoin. Then he immediately deleted his post in the thread...

I asked him why he deleted the post, he said he thought I sent the wrong amount, then realised I had sent the right amount. I asked him if he was going to do the work, he said yes he's looking at the code...

10, 20, minutes past. I enquired how it was going, I got no reply.

45 minutes later I advised him i didn't have much longer, if he couldn't do the work just send the $15 back that would be fine. He replied 'I'll keep it'.

I told him i'll post a shitlist thread, and would not wait the '72' hours as he's already admitted he's stealing the $15. He asked me if i had any more work for him and winked.

A useful lesson, I've had decent experiences in the forums since I joined, and was a bit less cautious than i should have been. It might save me money in the long run as i'll do the due diligence in future. It does mean I wont be posting any small work again here though, as I wont have the time to properly vet people for small half hour jobs.

Anyway i'm posting this in case he tries it again with someone. His account is from 2011, not sure why he hasn't been caught before, he seemed very comfortable stealing my money and not thinking twice about it.


Last part of IM Exchange:

[20:46:02] Always Today: so is everything ok, are you able to do this
[20:46:49] BHW-HICK: just reading over code.
[20:47:13] Always Today: ok
[21:06:25] Always Today: how's it looking do you think you'll be able to handle it ok
[21:20:31] Always Today: hello?
[21:25:58] Always Today: I haven't got much longer, you said it'd take you 10 minutes, let me know what's going on, if you can't do it, let me know and i'll give you a wallet to ship the money back to, it's no big deal
[21:51:40] BHW-HICK: ill keep it.
[21:52:45] Always Today: OK i'll go post a shitlist thread now, seems no need to wait the customary 72 hours, as you've already admitted your intention to steal. A shame, I hope you find a better solution to making money in the near future, good luck
[21:53:10] BHW-HICK: give me a job then.
[21:53:14] BHW-HICK: anything else u need doing.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

Shitlist Request Approved

@BugThishhic has been notified he has 48 hours to respond to this post.

PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

Reminder to everyone else:

Shit list rule #4:
If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

PM was sent to @BugThishhic about working this out without a SL thread and he responded "?" so I opened it earlier than usual.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

@BugThishhic is perma-banned.

His account was a bought account and he has been banned in the past.

If you see an account that has had no activity on it for some time and all of a sudden has some, be careful about doing business with them and if approached, feel free to PM me or any of the other Mods to make sure it is not an obvious scammer as we can see things behind the scenes.

 

[Noah Hawryshko]

@BugThishhic is perma-banned.

His account was a bought account and he has been banned in the past.

If you see an account that has had no activity on it for some time and all of a sudden has some, be careful about doing business with them and if approached, feel free to PM me or any of the other Mods to make sure it is not an obvious scammer as we can see things behind the scenes.

Interesting. Feel free to let me know if this is confidential and can't be discussed, but out of curiosity, how did you know it was a bought account rather than an alternate account?

Personally, I can't think of any criterion by which a person could distinguish between a bought account and a second account, they'd both look the exact same appearance activity-wise to me, even if I had behind the scenes data.

 

[Wilson Grant Fisk]

Op, you should never have dealt with him, it was an old account with only 20 posts that were made recently, that should have been a warning sign.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

Interesting. Feel free to let me know if this is confidential and can't be discussed, but out of curiosity, how did you know it was a bought account rather than an alternate account?

Personally, I can't think of any criterion by which a person could distinguish between a bought account and a second account, they'd both look the exact same appearance activity-wise to me, even if I had behind the scenes data.

Part of how I knew is what @Asif WILSON Khan just posted and the other part is from other data that BHW collects on each user which I do not have the freedom to share.

Typically I still would wait the 48 hours but I spoke with the OP and his desire was to protect the community more so than to get his money so a big +1 to him.