Guys: Kindle is the Ticket!

I have 3 books released. 2 of them are still on their 5 day promotion. The other just got off it today. No $$$ sales yet.

My first book was getting 10-20 downloads a day when it was free, and was ranked in the in the top 10,000 for all 5 days. Now that it's on sale for money, though, it just fell off the grid.

Good luck! Its a tough gig.
 
this thread is gold, im finishing up my 3rd book now.
 
I have 3 books released. 2 of them are still on their 5 day promotion. The other just got off it today. No $$$ sales yet.

My first book was getting 10-20 downloads a day when it was free, and was ranked in the in the top 10,000 for all 5 days. Now that it's on sale for money, though, it just fell off the grid.

Hm, you need to improve whatever you are doing. I was getting 2500 DL/day on my free promo days. Have a longer book, have a great cover, great description, and quality content. Without these, sales are next to impossible.
 
Hundreds now that's commitment. I'll check out the JV. This thread is probably the most interesting thing I read all year.
 
The people on odesk (eg) are the provider for specific services (eg. writing, design and so on). You are just the customer and hire them for a task. Your provider Has To write a bill. There is nothing special.

If you sign a contract for your mobile phone you will get a monthly bill too.

The provider has to tell the tax office about his income and that's just possible if he write bills. Everything else is illegal.

A bill has also an advantage for you: You can reduce your income tax. And the most important: Together with an Assignment Agreement (that you have to create) you can make sure, that you have all rights of the work. And the provider has no chance to sell the work for a second or third time.

Imagine: You buy a text and a year later someone published the same text for free on the Internet. You can not prove that it is your text. Or another example: the supplier on odesk copied a text 1:1 from the Internet. Suddenly the correct author points out that you have made ​​an ebook of his text. You can not prove where you bought the text. You have to take the consequences > copyright infringement > Payment of damages.


Thanks Pinger, should have been able to figure that out I guess but sometimes I tend to over think.

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You have up hundreds and only get 25 sales a day, that's good but a lot of work, honestly that means you have a lot of duds.

id take the ones that sell the most then write more books on those niches approaching the subject in a different way,,.., in example I have one niche that has a beginner study guide, a how to start your own business in said niche study guide, and next I'll make an advanced course for the same niche, you can also build a list in the niche and use all your social media accounts to cross sell it all. I've built up big twitter pages and fb pages and other things so when a new book is released I have over 100k fb fans in the niche to promote to and another 150k twitter fans it goes out to, and this is all on the low end.
 
Kindle Ranking
50,000 - 100,000 1 sale per day
10,000 - 50,000 3 - 15 sales per day
4,500 - 10,000 15 - 25 sales per day
3,000 - 4,500 25 - 50 sales per day
500 - 3,000 50 - 200 sales per day
350 - 500 200 - 300 sales per day
100 - 350 300 - 500 sales per day

I sell all mine a $2.99, my best books sell about 25 per day, my good books 6-10 and my average 2-3.

You have up hundreds and only get 25 sales a day, that's good but a lot of work, honestly that means you have a lot of duds.

id take the ones that sell the most then write more books on those niches approaching the subject in a different way,,.., in example I have one niche that has a beginner study guide, a how to start your own business in said niche study guide, and next I'll make an advanced course for the same niche, you can also build a list in the niche and use all your social media accounts to cross sell it all. I've built up big twitter pages and fb pages and other things so when a new book is released I have over 100k fb fans in the niche to promote to and another 150k twitter fans it goes out to, and this is all on the low end.

Reread that. His best books get 25 sales a day. EACH.
 
Reread that. His best books get 25 sales a day. EACH.

Yeah and that's really not even close to the limit. It's amazing how many readers will buy all of your books on a subject when they enjoyed the first read. I think it's really important to grow your pen names on niches with at least four books that appeal to that audience.
 
700+ downloads in day! Nice Job! :clap2:
 
700+ downloads in day! Nice Job! :clap2:

It really starts to add up when you keep publishing. Just don't forget to encourage your readers to check out your other books by dropping a URL in the beginning of them.
 
You have up hundreds and only get 25 sales a day, that's good but a lot of work, honestly that means you have a lot of duds.

id take the ones that sell the most then write more books on those niches approaching the subject in a different way,,.., in example I have one niche that has a beginner study guide, a how to start your own business in said niche study guide, and next I'll make an advanced course for the same niche, you can also build a list in the niche and use all your social media accounts to cross sell it all. I've built up big twitter pages and fb pages and other things so when a new book is released I have over 100k fb fans in the niche to promote to and another 150k twitter fans it goes out to, and this is all on the low end.

Hi,

You have misunderstood what I wrote.

I have multiple books that each sell every day and very few duds.

I already own entire niches by creating a series - for example the top 5-10 are all my books.

My best books sell 25 copies each per day.
My good ones sell 6-10 copies each per day.
My average ones sell 2-3 copies each per day.

If a book sells just 1 copy per day I do not bother creating a series around that one.

From what you are saying about Twitter fans etc, you seem to be building an author's relationship with their readership. I am less concerned about that as I view it more as a publisher, my different genres all use different pen names, so I would be managing lots of authors social media accounts. I just find it easier to write more books that sell than to spend time on social media pushing my various authors. I give them a website and that's it.

You can read a bit more how I do it here on my JV:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...v-i-write-you-publish-we-split-royalties.html
 
From what you are saying about Twitter fans etc, you seem to be building an author's relationship with their readership. I am less concerned about that as I view it more as a publisher, my different genres all use different pen names, so I would be managing lots of authors social media accounts. I just find it easier to write more books that sell than to spend time on social media pushing my various authors. I give them a website and that's it.

I hate socialising (twitter, facebook, g+ and so on) too and I understand you but:
You dont have to make "social accounts" for each pen name but for your categories! Eg: I have 3 big categories (healthyness, business and money, cooking) where I publish different niche books with many many pen names. But each niche book (eg. in the category cooking) links to ONE big facebook cooking page. So I only have to manage this ONE site. And: if you create a twitter account, facebook site, g+ account and so on you can easily post a message to all accounts just with one click. And the next question is: how you can monetize this traffic? ....the social accounts are just traffic channels and you have to bring the traffic to your home base/your website. And there you can do everything. Sell expensive products, create an email List for affiliate and so on.

So ...if you sell a lot of niche books you have people who are really willing to buy. So take this traffic. Even if you have no other products that you can sell them today ...build a email list to sell your upcoming products.

Yes, kindle works fine and you can make big money but it is wrong if you only rely on kindle.because you dont know how it works in a few years. You have to build a big business with different digital products (ebooks, audiobooks, mobile apps...) and many traffic sources. Each product and traffic source is pushing each other. Its a big symbiosis that let you make money for looong long term. And social media (and i really hate it too) is a big part of this symbiosis. You cant ignore it....

Its hard to describe but i hope you understand what i want to say.
 
Hi Pinger030,

I have found social media is great for building brand awareness, I have tried every other book income stream you can imagine other than Amazon, but it is a lot of hard work and brings in peanuts compared to Amazon Kindle.

Obviously if it works for you, great, but I found, other than a website (I build an email list from that and a few other things) the rewards are not worth the effort.

My business is a little different from others. I don't just publish direct on Kindle, I produce books for other publishers and I have a number of clients. In total I produce about 30 books each week across a range of genres.

Indeed I am looking to expand that a little. You can see one of my JV's here...

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...v-i-write-you-publish-we-split-royalties.html

Back to your point...

You could equally say what happens if something changes on Twitter, YouTube, Facebook etc, then all your social media work is for nothing.

Ultimately if you are looking at digital publishing and something happens to your KDP books so they stop selling on Amazon you are pretty much screwed anyway. It is like trying to find an alternative to Adsense that is easy to set up and pays just as well as a backup in case Google stops paying. There isn't one!
 
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