Rankbox SCAM: The THIEF ExtremeSEO
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marcuskona
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timothywcrane
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Removing themes and plugins from a repository that you control that states that all shares must be GPL, and removing it because IT DOES NOT COMPLY is different than arguing the licensing requirements. The thing I would be interested in is whether or not the distributor of scambox had legal access to the code to begin with? As for running on and derivative works being different, it simply just proves my point. Thesis was pulled, as it IS NOT GPL, even though some WP people disagree, and thus their inability to work together. WP was protecting their repository GPL platform consistency, not trying to get the Thesis crew to change their licensing scheme, that was deemed legal and binding as non -GPL, and thus the removal from the repository.
I understand the logic of the other side, but if there is no separation between inclusion and hook and implimentation for third party software, then the Linux ICO is right, and all coders are rebels, except those that work for fat wallets, license or no license, or even further, Linux is a derivative of the C programming license, and all Linux distro programs that utilize hooks into the Linux C code are now part and parcel of it, and lose all licensing rights to the GPL.
After all, we DO want people to be able to offer code, do we not? It is sad that this theft happened. A good coder (which I do not claim to be) would have at least reverse engineered the functions and used different structuring or even a different language before shady release, under a license of their choosing.
What happened here, even if others are correct in licensing, is that a man walks by a "giveaway car" in the mall, hot wires it, changes the registration, and sells it down the street. When questioned by the police, the culprit says, "it was free", "fuck off", "I own it now, so I sold it".
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BlackSEOWizard
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No in fact they sometimes encourage it. They have a special arrangement with American Express, I am sure they have similar ones with MC & Visa.
marcuskona
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in my experience, if seller wiped his funds from pp which I am almost sure he already has, pp will screw you with some lame reasoning as to why you dont deserve a refund, they will NOT bend over and take one for the team. best thing you buyers can do is start chargebacks with your respective banks now. get the money from his bank and not through the medium, don't rely on PP to come in on a white horse.
BlackSEOWizard
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Actually it wasn't thesis that was pulled, it was his free themes (which if I remember correctly were even licensed GPL) but Matt had a problem with Thesis being a commercial product so he removed his free themes from the repository.
The free car thing is pretty far fetched and isn't remotely related. Licensing and property is completely different.
You can see that there was speculation that Matt was actually going to sue Chris because he refuses to adopt GPL.
You can read about it here, but I am sure there are tons of sites that talked about it at the time. It is still a hot issue between them but I don't think it is all that public now.
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http://mixergy.com/chris-pearson-matt-mullenweg/BlackSEOWizard
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He probably wiped them the moment this thread started. As I said before, PayPal sometimes encourages using your credit card to issue a charge back in these cases where the money has been withdrawn because there is nothing they are able to do at that point.
It only takes 30 seconds to initiate a withdrawal and the process starts with the receiving back within 24 hours.
marcuskona
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he could have done it as soon as he caught wind that he got caught in his shenanigans. All I am saying is cover your a$$.
through your bank you are guaranteed your funds, with pp you are not guaranteed anything except a hard screwing.
like i said though this is from my experience.
timothywcrane
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"The free car thing is pretty far fetched and isn't remotely related. Licensing and property is completely different."
He doesn't legally hold the code, and thus can not license (or re license) it. You must retain ownership (or current use licensing) in order to license and distribute a software product. In both the car situation and here, there is no offered proof of ownership to begin with, so true, licensing is not even an issue. YOU can not license a product you do not legally obtain to begin with.
(please, no FB analogies, I know IP law has some infamous precedents)
rankbox is already ranking on Google as a scam product. There are already complaints filed on different scam boards. If you have time, please leave your complaint there as well.
I will be waiting for PayPal offices to open in my area and then give them a call, as was advised here by one PP employee.
Also, charging back won't likely be possible at the moment until funds are processed, so that may take couple more days.
I will be waiting for PayPal offices to open in my area and then give them a call, as was advised here by one PP employee.
Also, charging back won't likely be possible at the moment until funds are processed, so that may take couple more days.
just got off the phone with paypal.
Case was not filed directly, but the employee will report the seller to their investigations department and also will send me instructions on filing a dispute.
Now there are two things to do:
1. File a dispute (I am waiting an email from PP about which appropriate category to file the dispute in)
2. Report a seller to PP. (also waiting for instructions email from PP about that)
Really pissed off at this situation. It could've been a great plugin.
Now I need to get my money back asap.
Case was not filed directly, but the employee will report the seller to their investigations department and also will send me instructions on filing a dispute.
Now there are two things to do:
1. File a dispute (I am waiting an email from PP about which appropriate category to file the dispute in)
2. Report a seller to PP. (also waiting for instructions email from PP about that)
Really pissed off at this situation. It could've been a great plugin.
Now I need to get my money back asap.
MoneyisNow
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filed a dispute on pp. waiting for response from ExtremeSEo.
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