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Rankbox SCAM: The THIEF ExtremeSEO

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by carsonrathi, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    Hey Guys,

    it's about:

    RANKBOX [or Call it ThiefBOX] Creator SEOExtreme

    This is my first shitlist thread in my 3 years of stay on BHW.

    My name is Carson Rathi and i am the creator of a plugin called WPsbox.

    Today a member here, username: ExtremeSEO opened a BST thread
    selling a wordpress plugin called RankBox.

    So, i received a message from my WPsbox buyer that someone has opened a BST here on BHW which is a plugin and looks like related to WPsBOX.

    I jumped in and PURCHASED a copy of WPsbox plugin and you know what...The guy not just copied CODE of my plugin, he has certainly copied whole damn file, the source code of my WPsBOX in his Rankbox selling here.

    I instantly contacted moderator and provided him relevant proof, so BST is CLOSED (thanks to mods) however i want to give heads up to other members, to stay away from ExtremeSEO and his products. He is a SCAMMER, lier and Thief.

    He is such a lame copy/paster that he even copied my affiliate code with files :D

    On asking him, his reply was that he used a GPL source, then i asked for the source of GPL code, then he replied that he used a "Small snippet" of code. This is something which pissed me off, first he copied my plugin source file and now he is telling me it's GPL?? This noob doesn't know that how me and my developer worked 18hrs a day to write each and every line of code, tested it, rectified error, lots of trial and error and then we are able to make WPsBOX.

    Further, to show all BHW members and Rankbox buyers, that what he did, i have created a video. I have shown only some files and data he has copied and even a non tech person can understand the video:

    Comparison of WPsbox and Rank box files (showing how this ExtremeSEO guy ripped of my whole damn files)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxBcRAi_00Q​


    Copying someone's source code is not only against any forums TOS, it is illegal too. So, from ExtremeSEO:

    1) REFUND all buyers as what you have sold includes my core coding, you do not have ANY right to sell it.

    2) Public apology for not doing anything as such.


    3) Remove his domain and plugin asap, as it up till now.

    For mods: I have both plugins with me and Wiz also have both the plugins. You can check the authenticity of video by matching both codes.

    Though this guy deserved permanent ban however i am sure moderators will decide it.

    Any Rankbox buyer can ask for demo copy of WPsbox plugin and see themselves what i am talking about.

    Just to let every one know, the "code" or i say files this guy stole from my plugin once removed:

    If he remove my code files, then his plugin won't be able to do :
    1) Scraping of Google
    2) Proxy Support
    3) Decapthcer integration
    4) Auto approve list upload.
    5) Check for approval
    6) Campaign creation
    7) Log area
    8) Settings for campaign
    9) Comment posting (This is major thing as comment yields backlinks)

    In short, he backlink plugin won't be able to do any backlinking because for all backlinking mechanism he has straight away stole from my plugin.

    Overall, rankbox would be straight away useless.

    So, ExtremeSEO, please delete my complete coding (in short those 5-6 files) and its good to start your own.

    Thanks,
    Carson
     
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  2. mudbutt

    mudbutt Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    LOL if you bought a lifetime license (like I did) he won't give you a refund.

    I asked for a refund until everything gets cleared up again in which case I would repurchase the goods and this is what he skyped me:

    Code:
    For monthly members, I can give refunds due to the security checks.  However, with Lifetime members, there are much less security checks and more likely of potential source code snatching.
    
    I'm not trying to say that you are stealing, I'm just telling you that is how the industry is unfortunately
    
    LOL what the fuck? Also....

    Code:
    That is more than likely not the case with you...but I have to have an as-is policy for this reason
    What policy? You had a 24hr refund period (which I am very well within) and nothing mentioned about lifetime access being exempt from such policy. As a matter of fact, as of this writing, your "policy" page on your MAIN OFFICIAL sales page doesn't even have a policy page at all! The policy link goes to the homepage...so you can make up whatever policies you want!

    LOL. Time to do a chargeback.
     
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  3. IKbentim

    IKbentim Power Member

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    Fuck that sucks.. what a douche.
     
  4. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    He has to refund EVERY buyer because what he sold DOES NOT belongs to him. Waiting for his reply.
     
  5. WizGizmo

    WizGizmo Super Moderator Staff Member Premium Member

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    Waiting for ExtremeSEO to show up and make his case.

    "Wiz"
     
  6. wannabie

    wannabie Elite Member

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    And if he doesn't?

    Some people do not care about a ban
     
  7. satyawrat

    satyawrat Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Its a sad state of affairs. I hope ExtremeSEO has and good reason to call this "GPL" lol...
    Why would the GPL community work on software of this nature? Well if they are lets tell htem about Xr, SB and SEnuke, GPL version of these will totally change the game. :)
     
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  8. BigBuddy

    BigBuddy Account Under Review

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    Pm ed him and lets wait for his reply...
     
  9. GooglesMostWanted

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    Popcorn time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  10. n8800

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    I've seen his name in the shitlist before...lol glad i didnt pick it up!
     
  11. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    Thanks for being here.

    I am sure you already have his plugin copy, so that he cannot alter code.

    This guy has no shame.

    Thanks.
     
  12. ronywilliam

    ronywilliam Senior Member

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    Wow.. This is really bad. As a product developer myself I can totally understand how you would feel. We have had our products cracked and distributed for free and that felt horrible! This Is even worse! :/

    To extremeseo I would recommend giving the developer some kind of royalty or buying the product off him to sort things out. Customers should be the first priority in this for the mods. They dint do anything and should not suffer!
     
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    fun4uoc Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    SEO Mad Scientist
    Send Message User Lists
    Last Activity: Today 12:49 PM
    Current Activity: Private Messaging

    Come on, everyones waiting...
     
  14. MoneyisNow

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    wow ok that sucks. Sent a PM waiting for reply
     
  15. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    Yes buddy, i dont want any royalty from him however he don't have any right to sell my work to anyone. He should immediately refund all buyers and close his site + domain. That's all i want.

    Thanks Rony for your input.
     
  16. WizGizmo

    WizGizmo Super Moderator Staff Member Premium Member

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    ExtremeSEO has just told me that he is composing his message to
    be posted on this thread. Please stand by . . .

    "Wiz"
     
  17. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    Waiting eagerly what he have to say.
     
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    wadboram Newbie

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    A lot people nowadays are happy with short profits buy scamming people. This is very short term and ridiculous strategy.
     
  19. ExtremeSEO

    ExtremeSEO BANNED BANNED

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    Thanks BB for the PM

    First and foremost...the plugin has over 150 files within it, It is a very large plugin and contains numeras features beyond comment posting.

    This is quoted from Wiz:
    "However, it may come down to being a MORAL issue, rather than a LEGAL issue."

    For those that are just tuning in, the dispute is NOT over the plugin, but A FEATURE within the plugin - the comment poster.

    WordPress tries EXTREMELY hard to make every function of WordPress Free to the public. For this reason, WordPress and WordPress Functions fall under what we call a "GPL Licence."

    You can read more about it here:
    http://wpsplash.com/licensing-explained-for-wordpress-theme-and-plugin-developers/
    http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins

    **** Themeforest and Codecanyon also have the GPL laid out plainly. ****


    The issue comes into play over the LONG DISPUTED (not just here) argument over WordPress Plugins falling under GPL.

    Feel free to read the GPL...but the long story short is that any plugin that requires WordPress functionality..hooks...etc...falls under GPL. If it is within WordPress but does not require WordPress functionality...to work, then it doesn't fall under GPL.

    The reason behind this is so that you may change or edit WordPress files, features, functions...etc. So, by you/allowing you to editing a WordPress file from a theme or plugin to use in a WordPress environment...this is why GPL was created.

    GPL enables you to basicly take a WordPress file and developer/design/program it to your needs....among many other things.

    In regards to this case....there were certain features/functionality that DID fall under GPL within his script. Were they used in Rankbox? Yes. However, many things within these certain files were heavily modified to give features, add features, delete features...etc.

    But....this "Code" that we are all speaking off only consists of about 10% of the entire plugin. That is why I stated that it was a Feature Dispute, rather than a Plugin Dispute.

    As I had stated in the thread, there were 10 BETA TESTERS from BHW that I did not know personally that were chosen mainly upon their post count/achievements here within BHW.

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    I am not going to get into an argument and tried to be as thorough as possible in regards to my response. If you have additional questions, I am here to assist and answer any questions you may have (as long as they are questions and not arguments).

    For those that have the Rankbox service, you WILL continue to be serviced, continue to receive your 5,000 daily backlinks, and continue to have access to the member dashboard to purchase discounted AA lists and member only downloads.

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    I will not be checking this thread, if you have questions, please PM me.
     
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  20. tylerdale80

    tylerdale80 Registered Member

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    From the video, it is pretty obvious that that rankbox copied the whole WPsbox source. The structure of codes are same. There are only some lazy minor changes to some variable names.
     
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