Why is ZennoPoster better than uBot?
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omida86
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- Feb 15, 2011
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How can it be a feature when I can't multithread? I don't understand how this is a "feature". I can't multithread, so for 20 templates I have to run 1 thread at a time. It doesn't sound like a feature to me...
If you run a few threads at the same time:
1)first thread takes all messages from the account and put them to the local storage
2)after any other threads go to the server and if there is any new it downloads them and also check the local storage
So any thread has access to all downloaded messages and you'll be able to activate any accounts.
All messages are deleted only after closing ZennoPoster.
I suggest to use not main email accounts to protect them against message loosing, since all messages are deleted from the server to decrease load of network.
omida86
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But Nuaru, this doesn't always happen, it works only sometimes. And if you check the e-mail section of Zennoposter forum people say the similar thing. After the first thread, the other threads say "No Message Found"....But this happens only when you run them at the same time, when two threads check the e-mail at the same time.
Anyways, you guys are great programmers and usually have good customer service, so I think you will fix it quickly...but I hope it will be soon...running single thread sucks
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Let's look at the situation again: template does not work, the problem is with confirmation by mail.But Nuaru, this doesn't always happen, it works only sometimes. And if you check the e-mail section of Zennoposter forum people say the similar thing. After the first thread, the other threads say "No Message Found"....But this happens only when you run them at the same time, when two threads check the e-mail at the same time.
Anyways, you guys are great programmers and usually have good customer service, so I think you will fix it quickly...but I hope it will be soon...running single thread sucks
At the same time you accuse the program itself and its systems that work well for a lot of other users.
Why do you think that the problem in the program, not that you do not correctly assembled template?
Please write to the support and show him your template or the part that does not work.
Some time ago we had a bug of mail processing that appeared rarely, and we catch it only recently.
Maybe you updated the program and had found it. Again, the support team will understand.
luminus
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- Oct 21, 2008
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Before I respond to this nonsense, I just want to say to all reading this thread - I really wish I didn't have to do so. I wish we could just discuss the merits of the software. UBot is a great program, and UBot 4 is really awesome. It's got some features that make me (cover your eyes, kids) cream.
And, it seems people like ZP. I haven't used it, so it's up to them to comment.
That being said...
One last time - You are both misguided. The person you're talking about hasn't been with UBot in 8 months, and we had very good reason for removing him. It's not a surprise that he's giving you misinformation.
We removed the spam from our forum. We aren't Microsoft deleting claims about Apple here. We were deleting outright shilling from our forum, which is for UBot users. We're not going to go stand outside your store with a sandwich board for UBot.
Who you're referring to is a long-time UBot user. We didn't ask him to make these posts, but we did ask him to remove them after we saw them.
Jason
And, it seems people like ZP. I haven't used it, so it's up to them to comment.
That being said...
This is not "even if," namely the truth. Information that the team has changed uBot for cheaper has a very high reliability because comes from a former member of the team. And he can not be misguided, because directly participated in these events. This is natural:the more powerful product was released, it is natural that uBot sales fell after that. It is the rule of the market, but of course I would not know that it was so bad that the team had to change to cheaper if I had not talked about it. And the fact that the old team members are gone and replaced by new ones - is also easily verified. Users of the forum uBot certainly noticed it. Even you , luminus, with your small number of posts is proof of this fact.
Good friends of creator uBot hardly tell us bad information about uBot, but a former member of the team uBot ...
One last time - You are both misguided. The person you're talking about hasn't been with UBot in 8 months, and we had very good reason for removing him. It's not a surprise that he's giving you misinformation.
We removed the spam from our forum. We aren't Microsoft deleting claims about Apple here. We were deleting outright shilling from our forum, which is for UBot users. We're not going to go stand outside your store with a sandwich board for UBot.
Who you're referring to is a long-time UBot user. We didn't ask him to make these posts, but we did ask him to remove them after we saw them.
Jason
Me still confuse between Zenno and UBot...
The big debate...
My conclusion just that Zenno injected with programming ability with usual language like C#, etc, the UBot unable.
UBot can generate self exe, then Zenno unable to do that.
Someone said like this "Want to be know about UBot? Try Auto-IT!"
Why? Is that two very similar?
I don't want make a judge as I am not (yet) have both Zenno and UBot.
AND when I look the last page, I see the war between nuaru and luminus.
The big debate...
My conclusion just that Zenno injected with programming ability with usual language like C#, etc, the UBot unable.
UBot can generate self exe, then Zenno unable to do that.
Someone said like this "Want to be know about UBot? Try Auto-IT!"
Why? Is that two very similar?
I don't want make a judge as I am not (yet) have both Zenno and UBot.
AND when I look the last page, I see the war between nuaru and luminus.
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Hi Digiman. I use UBot so I can only tell you about that one. But I will say this. I don't think any one software will ever have such a comprehensive and universal set of features that it will make everyone happy. I love UBot because it is extremely easy to learn, it is very powerful and I have been able to accomplish everything I have wanted to with it. I have also made several bots that I was successful in selling as well.
I think some of my favorite aspects of UBot, outside of the software itself, are the forum community and the support. The members are always right there to help if you need it, and support is really efficient and effective.
You also mentioned v4 which you can only get access to right now if you are a current member. The power this version possesses is amazing. Despite what others may think (especially those that have never used it), I have been using it and it's amazing. It cuts down on coding time significantly. Many of my bots that I have re-coded in v4 have, on avg, 60-70% less coding in them. I spend less time coding and get extremely powerful bots.
I have no interest in arguing what's better because I really think it's always going to be a case of personal preference. I use Ubot because I love it and it works for me in numerous ways that just make my life easier. I hope that helps.
Joe
luminus
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- Oct 21, 2008
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Digiman - in my mind, Joe got right at why I think UBot Studio is the best program available for internet automation. When you find something you want to automate, your experience should be simple, practical, and engaging. UBot 3.5 already does this. UBot 4 does this even better.
No, UBot doesn't have the ability to add c# code. But that's not a negative in my mind - that's because we want everyone to be able to make powerful bots simply. If you need to code to do it, then we ought to have a command for it. And for 90% of things, we do.
What else do we have to make automation easier? A support staff who works their asses off. Tooltips on every command. Reams of documentation, something like 20 tutorials that the UBot team made themselves, and more tutorials that others have made.
That's why UBot has a drag-and-drop interface - so you can drop commands and web page elements onto the script window and easily say what you want to do.
But it's also designed for marketing - unlike AutoIt - so it has:
Built in captcha solving commands,
Built-in page scraping commands,
Built-in account creation,
Built in spinning,
Built in emailing,
Built in proxy-switching....
And that's just 3.5. For UBot 4 we added a dev team member who's been working for 6 months on the new version, so that it's more stable and more efficient. And the new features are friggin' cool.
UBot 4 has Image Recognition to interact with Flash.
UBot 4 has an amazing element selection system that really cuts down on coding time, like CoderJoe mentioned.
UBot 4 has a new artificially intelligent form filling system that will work on most web signup pages. This means you can make an account creation script and use it on almost any website just by changing the URL.
UBot 4 has a new code view which lets you switch to a plain language version of your scripts - this also speeds up scripting incredibly, as you can move commands around just like you would in a text editor.
When we release the new version, it's going to redefine what people think of UBot Studio - which they already love.
Search youtube for "Sneak Peek UBot 4" to find this demonstrated in a beta.
Hope this helps. If you'd like more info, there are plenty of videos available on our site and our staff would be more than happy to find out what you're interested in automating, and determining how we could get that done in UBot.
We'll also have a trial available soon. And, as always, customers who purchase have 30 days to get their money back if they are unsatisfied, no questions asked. Try it to see what you think.
Jason
No, UBot doesn't have the ability to add c# code. But that's not a negative in my mind - that's because we want everyone to be able to make powerful bots simply. If you need to code to do it, then we ought to have a command for it. And for 90% of things, we do.
What else do we have to make automation easier? A support staff who works their asses off. Tooltips on every command. Reams of documentation, something like 20 tutorials that the UBot team made themselves, and more tutorials that others have made.
That's why UBot has a drag-and-drop interface - so you can drop commands and web page elements onto the script window and easily say what you want to do.
But it's also designed for marketing - unlike AutoIt - so it has:
Built in captcha solving commands,
Built-in page scraping commands,
Built-in account creation,
Built in spinning,
Built in emailing,
Built in proxy-switching....
And that's just 3.5. For UBot 4 we added a dev team member who's been working for 6 months on the new version, so that it's more stable and more efficient. And the new features are friggin' cool.
UBot 4 has Image Recognition to interact with Flash.
UBot 4 has an amazing element selection system that really cuts down on coding time, like CoderJoe mentioned.
UBot 4 has a new artificially intelligent form filling system that will work on most web signup pages. This means you can make an account creation script and use it on almost any website just by changing the URL.
UBot 4 has a new code view which lets you switch to a plain language version of your scripts - this also speeds up scripting incredibly, as you can move commands around just like you would in a text editor.
When we release the new version, it's going to redefine what people think of UBot Studio - which they already love.
Search youtube for "Sneak Peek UBot 4" to find this demonstrated in a beta.
Hope this helps. If you'd like more info, there are plenty of videos available on our site and our staff would be more than happy to find out what you're interested in automating, and determining how we could get that done in UBot.
We'll also have a trial available soon. And, as always, customers who purchase have 30 days to get their money back if they are unsatisfied, no questions asked. Try it to see what you think.
Jason
lowridertj
Registered Member
- Apr 13, 2008
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nuaru is funny
As quoted from your main landing page
"all-in-one solution for SEO tasks automation. Get rid of routine with the help of ZennoPoster!"
I find this funny in that while you make claims of the above stated on your site you cant get proper SEO proof for your own site. If you make the claims back them up with proof or all it is, is false claims as a marketing tactic.
Your tutorials and videos available are slim at best. While they might be great in the Russian or other language that doesn't do anything for the US market.
Finding videos, or tutorials for proper use of the program is just about impossible to find less you buy tutorials, or personal users that eventually figured out how to use it.
One REALLY huge part it is missing is being able to compile to a exe format. All Zenno seems to be is a Giant macro building program with a complicated UI that can only be ran from within the Zenno Product.
Mind you I purchased Zenno and had it refunded after countless wasted hours trying to learn (watching videos that are provided, and purchasing videos and tutorials) it is way to complicated and is not very user friendly.
In anything I build, and especially if I state something does a certain thing shouldn't you be able to show exactly that with your own Product "Zenno"
Where and what are you actually ranked for in the SE's?
Show me some thing complicated you think Ubot can't do? I will show you a solution in Ubot showing it in fact can.
Bots that utilize a browser can be slow (very slow at times) but you have the option of also using Sockets in Ubot 3 (clunky) and Ubot 4
Ubot 4 also has the ability to set many new aspects of the browser settings including but not only the referrer and more.
The ability for screen recognition is HUGE. And being able to find things based on an image screenshot of a page element (including flash, images, etc)
Code View and Node View Making it extremely beneficial for raw coders, and visual coders alike, and be able to drop in huge functions at one time into a bot saving large amounts of time is great.
1 Major thing to say about Ubot and Zenno. They can be both used to automate things. I personally like Ubot more and find it a lot easier to use, and the UI is very friendly over anything Zenno has available (at this time)
As for making your own code in things such as VB .NET, C#, etc... This comes with a HUGE learning curve and if you want to go that route by all means is up to you. However you will have to learn a great deal of coding language to create even the simplest of bots.
Where as Zenno is a hell of a lot less time involved, And Ubot Is a hell of a lot less time consuming to build then in Zenno.
So for fast deployment and ease of use. Ubot is the clear winner.
TJ
Ubot and Zenno user
shaddelick
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- Sep 14, 2008
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Strange, What part of FB cant be automated? I was able to automate what i needed to do on FB using the demo of zp
Lowrider, any idea why uBot can't choose some things that don't change? I'm trying to automate hotmail email confirmation but it will work a few times then stop. Any idea why or what command I should use instead of choose by attribute or whatever
BlackSEOWizard
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- Apr 2, 2010
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I've been using Ubot a lot lately as I just bought it, been struggling through. It is simple and I like how quickly you can put things together, but everything I do I run into issues. Things that should be simple can be more complicated because of the rails you are on with Ubot.
Although UBot has a lot of power, I'm getting really frustrated with it. It isn't that it is complicated, it is amazingly simple, just it is missing a lot of little things to make it easier to work with. I'm also having inconsistent results with it's chosen system (I know this is going away with 4 though).
I've looked at Zenno briefly, and will try the trial again, but looked very confusing.
As for Ubot being AutoIT, far from it. AutoIT is a great system, but it does lack a lot of the things Ubot has. AutoIT has a lot of things Ubot does not though when interacting with Windows application. For web things, AutoIT is really lacking.
Although UBot has a lot of power, I'm getting really frustrated with it. It isn't that it is complicated, it is amazingly simple, just it is missing a lot of little things to make it easier to work with. I'm also having inconsistent results with it's chosen system (I know this is going away with 4 though).
I've looked at Zenno briefly, and will try the trial again, but looked very confusing.
As for Ubot being AutoIT, far from it. AutoIT is a great system, but it does lack a lot of the things Ubot has. AutoIT has a lot of things Ubot does not though when interacting with Windows application. For web things, AutoIT is really lacking.
BlackSEOWizard
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It really is a negative, if you want to use Ubot as your primary tool and then extend it in the areas it is weak, that is where having access to C# or any other programming language helps. It allows you to fill the gaps and create systems that can do a lot more than what you can do with Ubot.
It doesn't mean UBot has to have the ability to have coding, but it is certainly a negative compared to a system that does. That opens up a lot of possibilities not readily available. You will never code everything into Ubot that everyone needs.
luminus
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- Oct 21, 2008
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FPC - your best option for help is on our forum! Just let us know what you're trying to do and there will be several people jumping in to assist.
One suggestion (if you haven't) is to watch all the tutorials on the UBot homepage. Personally, I find that I think UBot isn't working right when I'm doing something incorrectly without realizing it (trying to use one command when I should be using another because they have similar names, for example!). Most things are much simpler in UBot 4. But in general, I've found that most of the time my problems are in my own understanding of how to use the commands
Agreed! Thanks for making that suggestion.
Jason
BlackSEOWizard
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Watched all the tutorials, spent a lot of time in the forums. The program is rather easy to use, and I have programmed in many languages before, although I am not a programmer, I have an excellent understanding of programming.
There are a lot of simple things I am trying to do that have long work around to get done.
When it does work, it is great because it is very simple (once you get used to the basics of how it works) and quick to turn things around.
lowridertj
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- Apr 13, 2008
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v4 ubot dont have that issue with screen recognition. besides i have automated just about every part of facebook with ubot v3.5 as well.
i have a hotmail, yahoo, aol, account creators and also have doen email confirmations in them as well.
Feel free to contact me for help skype: emw-dgn or add email [email protected]
You're awesome, contacting you now.
BlackSEOWizard
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UBot is detected as well by Norton I believe and a few others. I know they said they were trying to get that resolved though.