**Buyer Beware** Cyrus Virus

[ezlegion]

To you, there may not be anything wrong with what you have said. But the fact that the person to whom you made the statement was somehow offended means that some words of apology from you would have been a good idea.

Even if the person in question was not offended, some other people here saw your comment as not too good. All the same, you should still have apologised. We all come from different cultures and have different parental upbringing. But in a public forum like this, you should choose your words wisely because one ma's meat is another man's poison.

Agreed, apologise. Good investment.
And then let this thread stay on subject.

 

[craigslistguy]

I'd like to add -

If anyone reading this is an IRL pal of Cyrus or has contact info to reach out and ask him to pop by BHW IRC or PM one of us here that would be much appreciated. I'd hate to think he's been wrapped up in the storms in that area and has no knowledge of this.

well considering i have evidence that on 4/30 from skype he said, that night, he would respond in the thread and low and behold look at what has taken place..nothing..

Not to mention, from the same source, he has changed his skype too..

So why i sympathize with people in the storm, even him if that is truly the case, the fact still remains..on 4/30 he was chatting it up on skype and saying things like that..

 

[DigitalGangster]

What do you mean lots of good members have come and gone, it was goober, MAYBE CyrusVirus (I won't comment anything until the final decision is made by staff), and probably someone else I missed.

No offense but you havent been here long enough, he is talking like back in 08 not april 2010.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

I'd like to add -

If anyone reading this is an IRL pal of Cyrus or has contact info to reach out and ask him to pop by BHW IRC or PM one of us here that would be much appreciated. I'd hate to think he's been wrapped up in the storms in that area and has no knowledge of this.

I've talked to him a couple of times on skype and I have a cell number that he used to use but he no longer uses that phone.

There is a possibility that he will be in my neck of the woods in a day or so and he knows that if he is in my area dinner and drinks are on me so hopefully if reaches out to me if he does swing through.

 

[dra$tic]

I scrolled through this entire 3 page thread looking for Cyrus' response.. I am a disappoint. i almost did biz with him about 2 weeks ago on an ecommerce site, kinda glad i didn't now. @OP I am sorry for your loss and i hope you get your money or your site ASAP.

 

[twotones]

Seems like he has a lot of support. He probably had a very bad misstep and is regaining his footing. Hopefully everything works out for the best!

 

[zerocoolflo]

Actually that is not remotely accurate in business. I've owned a bunch of businesses and have made a lot of money from some of them, by a lot of money I mean millions, and every business I have owned, we have made mistakes and affected clients negatively.

What you do is fix the error by going above and beyond even if you lose money because that is how you operate a sustaining business.

Fry once and that is enough is very short sighted.. take the above advice if you are going to be in business and you will be successful.

I feel somewhat responsible in this particular situation because the I recommended that the OP use Cyrus for his site and he took that recommendation and ran with it.

I've done business with Cyrus myself and I know he can produce a nice looking SEO optimized web site... I also know some of what is going on in his life personally.

I'd be thrilled to see this end up with the OP getting his site as he requested and Cyrus coming out clean in the process as that would lift some weight off of my back.

Let's be serious my friend, what I just said don't necessary applies to every kind of business...

I was on the subject, you were outside of this subject, explaining me that I'm narrow minded ( well that's what I understood ).

Well I may be narrow minded in situations like this, but I can spot a scammer/bad person from miles and this particular guy that you recommended is by far the easiest example of one.

I know how you feel because you got the op in touch with him, we understand that it's your friend, but that doesn't justify the work that he did and neither doesn't provide an excuse.

So, be with me and let it go. I mean 2 months for a site, which isn't even finished? ( on topic : op, I can fully customize almost anything and put a site up in like 3 days - i'm a workahollic and for the record I did a beautifull website for a friend yesterday fully customized as his heart wanted with 50 $ )


Leaving behind any discussion about other stuffs like "proper" thinking ( dunno how to spell it right..and I'm lazy to translate it from my language to eng ), the shitlisted guy is quite guilty of incompetence and I don't really care if he's for a long time here, because facts talk not words..

See, I'm a cool guy ( modest ) and even if you are probably rich ( I really admire guys like you, and for me your types are the best motivation that's out there ), you really don't have what to do to make the op's feelings better.

Maybe stop talking and pay the debt in your friend's honor? I guess from all those millions, 1k is like a little poop...

We all make mistakes and there is a word in my country: " for money, even a friend fu*ks you "...think about it

 

[tejsin]

the end for him, huh!
Well, he has to show up for he loses much more.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

Let's be serious my friend, what I just said don't necessary applies to every kind of business...

I was on the subject, you were outside of this subject, explaining me that I'm narrow minded ( well that's what I understood ).

I certainly didn't mean to come off as calling you narrow minded, I was just sharing a basic business principle and I apologize for having it come off that way to you.

I'm also not standing behind the guy that did not come across with his end of the bargain.. you get paid for something you do the work... you don't do the work, you give the guys a refund... that's pretty basic in my mind.

Sending the OP the money he lost has come across my mind a bunch of times over the past few days and I am trying to figure out in my mind if that is the proper move... do I clean up this guy's mess or do I hold him accountable and do what I can to get the guy to take care of the OP?

I'm not comfortable inside my skin when I think about this situation because I know how I do business and I know an awful lot of Cyrus's personal life and there are some things going on there that would put a man off center.

 

[proxygo]

like buyer said

4/30 from skype he said, that night, he would respond
in the thread and low and behold look at what has taken place..nothing..

only part nagging me is how ever nice he is
he was still around till april 30th , on the forum
and skype - april 30th was 11 days over the due
6 weeks finish date - even in those 11 days he was here,
no response to the buyer via pm , but he new about this
thread via skype with the buyer . now its almost 4 days
later and heading to 9 weeks i believe .

 

[zerocoolflo]

I certainly didn't mean to come off as calling you narrow minded, I was just sharing a basic business principle and I apologize for having it come off that way to you.

I'm also not standing behind the guy that did not come across with his end of the bargain.. you get paid for something you do the work... you don't do the work, you give the guys a refund... that's pretty basic in my mind.

Sending the OP the money he lost has come across my mind a bunch of times over the past few days and I am trying to figure out in my mind if that is the proper move... do I clean up this guy's mess or do I hold him accountable and do what I can to get the guy to take care of the OP?

I'm not comfortable inside my skin when I think about this situation because I know how I do business and I know an awful lot of Cyrus's personal life and there are some things going on there that would put a man off center.

Eh, no problem, you are his friend and if I were in your place I would have also tried to make things right.

I've been on so many different kind of forums and some of them had a great system that made a transaction between 2 members "safer"

That safe lock were the mods/most trusted people that anyone could rely on, published on a public list and people could chose which one to be the middle man.

In my humble opinion, the shitlist would be less populated if a system like that existed, because everybody hates to be scammed .

It only takes 1 time for your trust to be cheated and in no time you become a person who needs a good deal of conviction the next time you adventure yourself in the realm of business.

I said this from my own experience, because I was also scammed 1 time by a person that inspired trust. They try to get under your skin with nice words and when they have the chance they hit you in your back and leave without a word.

Well there's no point in more talking, op I hope you get your money back.

A productive day to everyone

 

[KeyzDT]

let's get back to this $1500 for a website shit....

craigslistguy - what did cyrus virus claim the website would do for $1500?

I have a feeling that even if he DID deliver the full site to you...he still would be robbing you.

I saw another thread from that dude where he claims he makes 3K a month or something like that....

yea...

I bet he comes up with some bullshit story and runs it by 2 guys like you every month

 

[oxonbeef]

Anyone else noticed how boring shitlist threads become when the accused isn't
here to answer for himself?
I can see only three possible outcomes from this.

1. Cyrus is banned and the Op loses out.
2. He disappears for good and the Op still loses out. Or
3. He returns with a good reason for being absent and reimburses the Op.

I know which one I would rather have if I was the Op.
If this thread was for a less reputable member it would be long forgotten
about and a ban would be in force.

Cyrus has contact with other members of the board and if a ban was enforced
and he was to resurface it wouldn't be that difficult for one of those to contact
a mod to see if it was possible to reinstate his account.

Personally If I was the Op I wouldn't want a ban enforced just yet as it would be
my only chance of seeing my money again or the service I ordered completed.
I've been on this board for a while now and during that time I've seen some of
the most unlikely members fall astray even to the extent of faking their own death.
I know one thing for sure I wouldn't be sending large amounts of money to anyone I didn't have verified physical contact details for.

 

[craigslistguy]

Ive already counted it as a loss anyway...

Banning Him, And This Thread will only make it so his autoforums cant make any money...

So it might all wash out (not that i wish this, but from a business standpoint)

 

[tymillz]

@Oxen, my thoughts exactly.

I am going to ban Cyrus for the time being. If he does resurface with a legitimate excuse, someone that he knows can contact me.

I waited past the timeframe that I had given him hoping that he would eventually show up.