virtualc08
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**Buyer Beware** Cyrus Virus
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Webbers UX
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Cyrus is not a newbie, he is longer in IM.
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well you have to feel for the buyer
and hope that with some reason that the
last 2 weeks he was available there is some
good reason not to respond to a 1.5k buyer.
hell if some1 payed me 1.5k on bhw and something
went wrong my end that was serious to impact the
time frame to completion ude get a bhw pm / several
emails. chat client pms and a phone call with that money
in play. if some1 trusts u with that amount of money its
the least ide do
just be wiser next time - request to see some kind of
work done on your project b4 u hand any over, and if
u do - never hand over the full amount.
if user has a sales thread place polite posts requesting
update / send pms / im client pms / u did all that all u
can now do it wait for zen and co to sort it out
and hope that with some reason that the
last 2 weeks he was available there is some
good reason not to respond to a 1.5k buyer.
hell if some1 payed me 1.5k on bhw and something
went wrong my end that was serious to impact the
time frame to completion ude get a bhw pm / several
emails. chat client pms and a phone call with that money
in play. if some1 trusts u with that amount of money its
the least ide do
just be wiser next time - request to see some kind of
work done on your project b4 u hand any over, and if
u do - never hand over the full amount.
if user has a sales thread place polite posts requesting
update / send pms / im client pms / u did all that all u
can now do it wait for zen and co to sort it out
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I dealt with cyrus once and was not happy.
(looking at cyrus profle, he was last online 30/4/11 11.56pm, so only a couple of days ago - from about post 16 of this thread)
I ordered a comments package - supposed to 150 quality links comments.. so many promises made in the package -- high approval, unique comments, non spammy - every one and more broken....
I got a list of 1k links after a quite late delivery and having to chase, so it was a huge over delivery, but, from that, checking within a few days, 220 had stuck, out of those even less actually fit the ordered specifications.
It was just a real basic (amateur) SB blast, not checked and totally spammy - all comments the same leaving an obvious footprint.
His response was useless - the minimum he should have down was to refund.
I could've easily got better on fiverr, is was only about $40 i think, so dropped it in the end after letting people know what poor results they may get.
Just want to say - This is not typical of BHW service providers - before and after dealing with cyrus, I've had awesome services provided by other members.
This is the bst I'm referring to:
Good luck craigslistguy, hope you get all or most of your cash back!
Si
(looking at cyrus profle, he was last online 30/4/11 11.56pm, so only a couple of days ago - from about post 16 of this thread)
I ordered a comments package - supposed to 150 quality links comments.. so many promises made in the package -- high approval, unique comments, non spammy - every one and more broken....
I got a list of 1k links after a quite late delivery and having to chase, so it was a huge over delivery, but, from that, checking within a few days, 220 had stuck, out of those even less actually fit the ordered specifications.
It was just a real basic (amateur) SB blast, not checked and totally spammy - all comments the same leaving an obvious footprint.
His response was useless - the minimum he should have down was to refund.
I could've easily got better on fiverr, is was only about $40 i think, so dropped it in the end after letting people know what poor results they may get.
Just want to say - This is not typical of BHW service providers - before and after dealing with cyrus, I've had awesome services provided by other members.
This is the bst I'm referring to:
Code:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/buy-sell-services/223279-quality-backlinks-pr1-pr9-cheapest-around-8.html#post2233954Good luck craigslistguy, hope you get all or most of your cash back!
Si
wrangler
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If anybody can make anything out of this screen shot, you have way better eyesight than me. I can't read a single name there, let alone any status.
Mokodoki
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I will upvote this as a possibility for his lack of response. We got hit by the EF5 tornado and most of our city is still in the dark. Depending on your type of phone, it can be pretty difficult to get it to cooperate with BHW--I know I can read on mine but couldn't post at all.
Webbers UX
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What do you mean lots of good members have come and gone, it was goober, MAYBE CyrusVirus (I won't comment anything until the final decision is made by staff), and probably someone else I missed.
wholesalereplica
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maybe because he has been on the forum a bit longer than you he may have a perspective as to who has come and gone in the time he has been here
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i was going to say what beans said but i thought
it might be taken the wrong way by people.
what beans is saying is - the quality of members over
the years has fallen which in tern lessons the quality
of the site and services, i no of quite a few high ranking
members who started bright, burned out and ran, if u get me.
its a shame . you bust your ass to earn a forums trust, fall
on hard times maybe, then rob the hand that feeds you. sad.
it might be taken the wrong way by people.
what beans is saying is - the quality of members over
the years has fallen which in tern lessons the quality
of the site and services, i no of quite a few high ranking
members who started bright, burned out and ran, if u get me.
its a shame . you bust your ass to earn a forums trust, fall
on hard times maybe, then rob the hand that feeds you. sad.
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i think if your making a living by being online - then you have several ways to get online everyday to get your work done... because otherwise you make no money and can't pay your bills.
so it is extreme for after 4 days or so the guy has not come here to provide his side of the story.
those tornados on the other hand killed 300 people - so they are nothing to dismiss quickly either if he was situated in their path.
I think given that you got to give the guy a few more days to provide some explanation solely because of that possibility....... obviously it doesn't look good but for now got to wait it out a bit longer imo.
so it is extreme for after 4 days or so the guy has not come here to provide his side of the story.
those tornados on the other hand killed 300 people - so they are nothing to dismiss quickly either if he was situated in their path.
I think given that you got to give the guy a few more days to provide some explanation solely because of that possibility....... obviously it doesn't look good but for now got to wait it out a bit longer imo.
blitzgeist
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I had a similar thing happen last year. I tried everthing apart from visiting his registered office in the states. I ranted and raved and wanted to kill the guy. Then, after months I got an email to explaining that he had had an accident and broke his back. As soon as he was able he sorted the outsstanding problems transfered his business and made good on his promises. So maybe all is not lost. Good luick
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i think u guys still missed 1 thing
the deal was make a site and theme . completion 4/6 weeks.
as of 3 days ago the buyer is now waiting 8 weeks
cyrus only stopped logging in 3 days ago.
making that 7 weeks 11 days.
cyrus was using the forum until 3 days ago, 3 days short of
8 weeks , the work to be done in 6 weeks .
that leaves 2 weeks over with no reason.
hes only been of the forum 3 days, leaving 11 days he was hear
not replying to the buyer, and he was using this forum almost 24 hrs
after the shit thread went up as well.
explain why he hasnt responded in the 11 days over the 6 week
completion date - your all focusing on the last 3 days
not the previous 11 he was here and none responsive to the buyer.
if he can be on this forum for 11 days after the due date passes
and ignore the buyer - why does the last 3 days matter , he had
11 days b4 that he choose to ignore the buyer.
that makes the last 3 days kind of irrelevant
the deal was make a site and theme . completion 4/6 weeks.
as of 3 days ago the buyer is now waiting 8 weeks
cyrus only stopped logging in 3 days ago.
making that 7 weeks 11 days.
cyrus was using the forum until 3 days ago, 3 days short of
8 weeks , the work to be done in 6 weeks .
that leaves 2 weeks over with no reason.
hes only been of the forum 3 days, leaving 11 days he was hear
not replying to the buyer, and he was using this forum almost 24 hrs
after the shit thread went up as well.
explain why he hasnt responded in the 11 days over the 6 week
completion date - your all focusing on the last 3 days
not the previous 11 he was here and none responsive to the buyer.
if he can be on this forum for 11 days after the due date passes
and ignore the buyer - why does the last 3 days matter , he had
11 days b4 that he choose to ignore the buyer.
that makes the last 3 days kind of irrelevant
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zen19
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TBH its pretty common in web development that projects run over time, web developers tend to assume that their clients have more of a grasp of web fundamentals than they actually do. This is based on 15 years of commercial development on big projects. Not saying that its the case here, but two weeks over on a six week project could be due to anything, and we only have one side to the story.
Assuming that Cyrus comes back, i'll be interested in hearing his side of this. In any case, a web development running overtime doesnt make someone a scammer, or the vast majority of web designers would be in jail.
Webbers UX
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I have to agree with zen, and as other people commented, sometimes he did delay, but he over did the work, but the main thing is that they did get work they paid for, done.
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i no cyrus myself through his questions about my
service - he always seemed an ok. so far i wouldnt call
the guy a scammer , thats not been proven as u rightly said.
only saying he was here 11 days after the project was surpose
to close and wouldnt respond to the buyer
yet profile shows posting on the forum in thoes 11 days
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/search.php?searchid=14846162
and i saw him browsing the forum on the 29 and 30th.
for 1.5k of anyone's money - if your here - a reply over
11 days isnt to much to ask. right ?
if u can be here - if u can take 1.5k$ - u can reply in 11 days -
the amount payed deserved that much .
service - he always seemed an ok. so far i wouldnt call
the guy a scammer , thats not been proven as u rightly said.
only saying he was here 11 days after the project was surpose
to close and wouldnt respond to the buyer
yet profile shows posting on the forum in thoes 11 days
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/search.php?searchid=14846162
and i saw him browsing the forum on the 29 and 30th.
for 1.5k of anyone's money - if your here - a reply over
11 days isnt to much to ask. right ?
if u can be here - if u can take 1.5k$ - u can reply in 11 days -
the amount payed deserved that much .
zerocoolflo
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I've read all the thread and it's interesting that you have that much time to post around , when you defend him, when you blame him and so on..
I mean we all get that he's a respectable user
BUT ! business is business..... you fry once ... that's enough...
I guess you'd better try to do that job yourself
And OP ? for 1500 bucks I would do 10 websites for you in 1 day lol with theme and unique content
craigslistguy
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I've read all the thread and it's interesting that you have that much time to post around , when you defend him, when you blame him and so on..
I mean we all get that he's a respectable user
BUT ! business is business..... you fry once ... that's enough...
I guess you'd better try to do that job yourself
And OP ? for 1500 bucks I would do 10 websites for you in 1 day lol with theme and unique content
Lol..
He put the theme up but told me "i can fully customize anything, nothing is impossible"
But yet and still WEEKS went by and that is all i kept seeing (the same thing) everytime i would check my site...
He would always tell me.."yea its comin" and a week later i see nothing but the same theme..
Sorry but i can go to a WP search and find a theme myself...The point was to make it customizable, like he said..
And as far as people talking about the storms (which is a bad turn of events for those people)
I can show Chat Logs of Numerous times I would Msg him...And wouldnt get a response for days...
Sorry but that has NOTHING to do with the storms..
And if he was going to go over the time frame he should have stated that AT SOME POINT during this whole thing....but i didnt get anything as such as a peep..
Its funny because the first day i talked to Cyrus he was like, "ya ill prolly check in with you at least 3 times a day, ya kno to make sure its comin along and we r on the same page"..
Do i expect that to happen all the time, checking in 3 times a day and all that? No.
But did it Even Happen once, during this whole deal? well the answer again is still No..
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Actually that is not remotely accurate in business. I've owned a bunch of businesses and have made a lot of money from some of them, by a lot of money I mean millions, and every business I have owned, we have made mistakes and affected clients negatively.
What you do is fix the error by going above and beyond even if you lose money because that is how you operate a sustaining business.
Fry once and that is enough is very short sighted.. take the above advice if you are going to be in business and you will be successful.
I feel somewhat responsible in this particular situation because the I recommended that the OP use Cyrus for his site and he took that recommendation and ran with it.
I've done business with Cyrus myself and I know he can produce a nice looking SEO optimized web site... I also know some of what is going on in his life personally.
I'd be thrilled to see this end up with the OP getting his site as he requested and Cyrus coming out clean in the process as that would lift some weight off of my back.
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