[Method] STEP by STEP Keyword Research for Newbies

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I think I get what you're asking but you dont need to worry about needing to outrank the 2 million pages, just the 20k the match the quoted text you're trying to aim for.

For example:

"1974 oversized cricket bats"
There may be 5000 results for the phrase in quotes but 10M for the phrase without quotes, but that's because when someone searches for 1974 oversized cricket bats (without quotes) Google is returning results for "1974 oversized cricket bats" and over sized cricket bats, and cricket bats and cricket etc... The point is that you dont need to concern yourself with the rest because you aren't trying to rank for those keywords just the longtail one in quotes. When someone searches for 1974 oversized cricket bats (without quotes) your page should appear ahead of the other pages that show up for other variations of your longtail keyword (like cricket bats) and the only pages you need to outrank through SEO work is the 5000.

Does that make sense?

Thank you for your reply. I agree with your comment, but I'm afraid that users will type the keywords without quotes, thus having 2M pages as a result. Where will my page rank there?

The thing is that I found similar tutorials elsewhere, so it's gotta make sense. I guess I'm simply suspicious by nature ;)
 
How do we beat the competition that's seo optimized there sites that
has under 10,000 competing pages in the url for a keyword phrase.
 
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Great guide for beginners, perhaps it would be good to talk more about competition metrics for keywords.. otherwise good guide!
 
How do we beat the competition that's seo optimized there sites that
has under 10,000 competing pages in the url for a keyword phrase.

That is the million dollar question.

Get that, and you can keep ranking and banking over and over and over agin.

Rank = Traffic + nice site and content = $$$
 
you're the man! being this one of the first and more important steps in IM you just helped out a noob (that would be me) to get started. I have nothing else to say but Thanks. Now I need to learn about long tail keywords, phrase keywords and all that but I'll keep doing my research on that.

PS. I used the button :drum:
 
I don't really get it - why bother with intitle and inurl at all? Onsite seo is the part of seo everyone has 100% control of and it is always the same amount of work. And btw, if I am right the traffic travis stars only take into account onsite seo factors?

Offsite seo is the main problem, since the work you have to put into it is massively different for each keyword, depending on the top 10 competition.
Isn't the whole point to a) see how much exact traffic a kw has and b) what the top ten's statistic is, pr, domain age, and esp BLP are, and in an second step if the BLP is in ok ranges to check out the backlinks of these ranking sites for pr, how many comment and forum links, etc?

All the onpage factors should be irrelevant because they should be up to date on your site anyways - unless you are targeting such low competition keywords that onpage seo alone makes a world of a difference and you do not want to get into the fight with any keyword that requires lots of offpage seo - but even then you still should mainly look at the blp first...?

I've been looking into kw with this method in the past, ignoring the most important factor - blp - and that got me into big trouble. Now I am mainly focusing on blp, pr, age... and have way less surprises. The only way checking out the onpage factors would make sense is if the competition has almost no blp and your competition has bad onpage seo - then it would be an easy to go keyword.

And why bother checking intitle and inurl before checking intitle and inurl at the same time? I can't see how checking them separately is even remotely relevant when you can have a more exact estimation by combining both in the first place.

Btw, if you're checking onpage seo don't forget the most important factors kw in domain and kw in url. Unfortunately traffic travis does not check these factors as far as I know.
 
I don't really get it - why bother with intitle and inurl at all? Onsite seo is the part of seo everyone has 100% control of and it is always the same amount of work. And btw, if I am right the traffic travis stars only take into account onsite seo factors?

Offsite seo is the main problem, since the work you have to put into it is massively different for each keyword, depending on the top 10 competition.
Isn't the whole point to a) see how much exact traffic a kw has and b) what the top ten's statistic is, pr, domain age, and esp BLP are, and in an second step if the BLP is in ok ranges to check out the backlinks of these ranking sites for pr, how many comment and forum links, etc?

All the onpage factors should be irrelevant because they should be up to date on your site anyways - unless you are targeting such low competition keywords that onpage seo alone makes a world of a difference and you do not want to get into the fight with any keyword that requires lots of offpage seo - but even then you still should mainly look at the blp first...?

I've been looking into kw with this method in the past, ignoring the most important factor - blp - and that got me into big trouble. Now I am mainly focusing on blp, pr, age... and have way less surprises. The only way checking out the onpage factors would make sense is if the competition has almost no blp and your competition has bad onpage seo - then it would be an easy to go keyword.

And why bother checking intitle and inurl before checking intitle and inurl at the same time? I can't see how checking them separately is even remotely relevant when you can have a more exact estimation by combining both in the first place.

Btw, if you're checking onpage seo don't forget the most important factors kw in domain and kw in url. Unfortunately traffic travis does not check these factors as far as I know.

You bother checking the intitle and inurl, because you want to know if there are a lot of serious competition or if there are few. It helps you get an idea of how long it will take you to rank.

Now you can have 2 keywords that are identical, expect for intitle and inurl.

If one of the keyword is showing 1 million intitle and inurl results while the other keyword shows 60K, then it is much smarter & easier to go after the keyword that has 50K competition as it will be easier to rank in. Where as you could end up working on the other keyword for months and even years and never reach top 40.




Traffic travis shows stars, but I would recommend you study the links.... the stars are just a quick overview, you should always anaylize the backlinks, domain age, url, yahoo, DMOZ etc. etc.

Whats your question? Be more specific. I take it that was a retorical question ?

Its not irrelevant, if you see a niche has huge amout of websites that have done intitle and inurl, then you best believe its going to be a tough keyword because the people in that niche won't go down without a fight.


I never said to not look at the backlinks, take a look through the thread.

Some people like to study a whole thing, I like to study/anaylize something by splitting it into sections for a better view, if you only want to look at allintitle:"keyword" then go ahead. No one method is law when doing keyword research.


Traffic travis shows the first 10/20 results and all that info is there to look at.
 
thanks man for this great post i helped me a lot....
 
You bother checking the intitle and inurl, because you want to know if there are a lot of serious competition or if there are few. It helps you get an idea of how long it will take you to rank.

Now you can have 2 keywords that are identical, expect for intitle and inurl.

If one of the keyword is showing 1 million intitle and inurl results while the other keyword shows 60K, then it is much smarter & easier to go after the keyword that has 50K competition as it will be easier to rank in. Where as you could end up working on the other keyword for months and even years and never reach top 40.

So what you are saying is that checking that way is a means of prioritizing before looking at the most important factor - backlinks? Don't get me wrong here, I think looking at the overall competition is so inaccurate.
I.e. you could have massive competition according to intitle and inurl, but not even the top ten have a lot of link building done, because all the competition was mostly automatic content generation of some sort, no particular kw targeting "by all means". When comparing 2 kw, it could be that the other kw has way less competition according to intitle and inurl, but the top 10 give themselves a backlink fight. Thats why I think its inaccurate and unimportant, except for prioritizing the analysis maybe.

Why are you first looking for intitle, then second looking for inurl, and then thrid looking for intitle and inurl - whats the benefit of 3 steps, when you can simply only do the last step - intitle and inurl to get a view of the competition? combining them is more accurate, and looking at them separately does not provide any benefit you can't have from combining them.

And why bother how many pages google actually sees relevant (adding the start=990)? Same scenario... 2 KW, one has like 500 pages in the search results, another one has 40 pages in the search results. Again, it means not much because its only important what happens in the top ten -onsite and offsite seo. If your onsite seo is OK you will not even have to think once about the total results google displays because you will land before all sites that have no seo and backlinks. This tells you nothing of value.

Whats your question? Be more specific. I take it that was a retorical question ?

Its not irrelevant, if you see a niche has huge amout of websites that have done intitle and inurl, then you best believe its going to be a tough keyword because the people in that niche won't go down without a fight.

Well my question was to understand why you put so many irrelevant steps into your guide. Or to be more accurate, I wondered if I missed something that makes these steps relevant to kw research. I mean you can really analyze anything to death, but the biggest problem in kw research is TIME. It takes long enough when you only do the necessary steps, but by adding unnecessary steps you only make it harder for newbies to get to the next step.


Some people like to study a whole thing, I like to study/anaylize something by splitting it into sections for a better view, if you only want to look at allintitle:"keyword" then go ahead. No one method is law when doing keyword research.
Like I said, searching for intitle, then searching for inurl, then searching for intitle and inurl does not provide any benefit over only searching for intitle and inurl (the last step). Looking at the total number of pages google sees more or less relevant for a kw provides no benefit at all. and even looking for intitle and inurl only provides a small insight into whats really true.

Or let's put it that way: You do not want to compete against sites with low relevance and bad onsite/offsite seo, unless they are in the top ten in which case you might be a very happy guy(Since you only need good onsite seo to get to the top).

You do not want to fight against onsite seo optimized competition too, unless they are in the top ten without backlinks, in which case again, you are very lucky(Now you need good onsite seo but still only a few backlinks, hurray!).

For both cases you simply can go into traffic travis and look at the blp.
If a kw has almost no BLP you got a winner there. Besides looking for traffic first, no other step would be required, but you could prioritize the kw you check by the number of inurl + intitle competition. See what I mean? Going directly to traffic travis with the kw once you know the # traffic provides little or no disadvantage over going through the whole stuff you said. But saves you a LOT of time.

Of course you can go and analyze it in a thousand ways, but when I learned something then it's to stop doing tasks that have little or no benefit and focus on the important facts.

Now the interesting part would be to find out how difficult it is to compete with the top 10 - as you pointed out blp alone still are no easy measure of the strength google sees in a url for a given kw. Question is, how to analyze the backlinks and other factors to get a good view on the real strength of the top 10. That's the point I am actually at. I've tried all the other stuff long ago and discarded it because its too unreliable but takes more time to do.

I hope you don't feel offended, I know you put quite some effort in the post and the screenshots which is cool.
 
@semilar

Let me try to sum up for you why I choose to look at those factors. If you don't want to, DON'T.... no need to write a whole ebook about it.

All your questions boil down to "why do all those steps" ?

I choose to do things that way, because IT GIVES ME AN IDEA OF HOW TOUGH THAT NICHE IS, AND HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE.



Those steps will help you find out if you will rank fast, or it will take you long time. It works for me, if it does not work for you, then you must be doing it wrong. Do what works for you, I won't spend my whole day arguing with you why it works.


Thanks
 
No need to get pissed off, I just wanted to see if there is any argument from you that would make me rethink mine. How else should I find out without properly communicating my viewpoint?

In my view there wasn't even one argument though. I do not see any additional benefit from all these steps that a shortcut would not have therefore I think its way too much work for no better outcome. But I'm not Mr. Allknowing, its just my opinion, like yours is yours. I wanted to debate it, and thrive on it, that's all. Listen, I'll stop bugging you now because you seem to take this personal. No need.

However I stopped looking at all the in: stuff completely some time ago, you made me rethink that, I am using it (only)to prioritize the kw's now.
 
I guess I do think that way because.

I can see the competition(number of websites I need to pass before I reach first page) before the real competition starts.

Dont think that just because you see some low backlink counts for the first 10 results means that you will be able to get there. You might find your self stuck on page 50 for a lonnnnnggg time because there are many sites that have done their on page SEO and off page SEO, but still not ranking on first page for what ever reason.

I look at the path step by step, you are suggesting to forget all the sites that are not ranking on page 1-2 and just look at the end results.

That is like a football league team not bothering to worry about the teams that they need to win over in order to get to the finals and just focus on the two last terms winners.

You know what they say about short-cuts in life.... there are none.

Any ways thanks for your contribution, you have given me some stuff to think about.
 
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Well then, no harm done, we both got something out of this, win:win :)
That's how it should be.
 
I'm totally new in SEO field :) Thanks for the oriented guide ;)

No problem. Thats what I am here for.

I will write one about how to optimize your site for the best on page SEO soon.


Cheers
 
Well then, no harm done, we both got something out of this, win:win :)
That's how it should be.



You should check out this ebook about &start=900 and why its recommend to do it. Its by Daniel Tan I think.

Code:
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=get+keyword+quantifier+blackhat

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If you have time, can you please explain the method you use in a few simple step and why you do it like that?

You can use this keyword: advertising jobs

i.e

step 1 "advertising jobs" = 104.04000

step 2 avg. pr = 4, avg. age = 3 etc.

There for this keyword is good or not good.

I would like to learn see if maybe what I am doing is unnecessary and over the top. And maybe it will help other people as well :)

Thanks
 
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I was already writing some analysis for your term, but 3 things bug me:
1. Always see KW analysis in relation to the kind of website you want to promote (Do you already have an established authority site for exact that niche, do you do article marketing, micro niche sites, autoblogs, etc) because depending on what site you have a KW might change from difficult to relatively easy. So without knowing what website I should optimize for that kw, I do not know if it will be easy or hard.

2. The keyword is not real world related to me. I would not try and market clickbank for example in an environment where authority sites around that exact topic will kick my ass.

3. Normally I have a bunch of KW, and I will sort them out first:

Are they buying KW? -> this one isn't, not to products/ideas I could sell(so at the first step this kw would be dropped already)

Is the traffic enough? Yap. But... not in relation to what I would have to do for it, see what I write below.

Are there any web2.0 I know near the top? Not that I can see, i.e. article marketing would not be that easy here.

Do the page backlinks look "good"? Nope, everything is there between 0 blp and 900k. I can't compete with 900k, esp for a low volume (in relation) such as 3600 exact usa local, while there are websites (almost)without blp that make it into the top 10 and 20 - meaning, page backlinks are not the deciding factor. onpage seo isn't it either, so google must have a lot of trust in these websites, coming from other factors.

I could go in deeper but the keyword was not even worth going to step 1.
I would only go deeper if I already had a website with lots of content for that term, that google might see as an authority itself because of the content and quantity, and if I had optimized my website for all other kw that are related and easier to rank for - and I still had to get this kw for whatever reason.(with 3,6k visitors, still does not sound very convincing to me.)

So all the details that I look at after step 1 would be worthless for me. Major time saver! :D The better a kw looks, the more I analyze. The funny thing is, I analyze most when I am not sure but it looks "doable", while great KW that are easy to rank for instantly jump into my eye when the kind of kw, traffic, and the first look at traffic travis say "yay!"

So I actually found something out while doing this analysis that was not in my mind before: if a kw is a golden one, you know it asap(adwords tool->traffic->traffic travis->looks simple), and don't have to put in much effort in analyzing it further to see if it's "doable"...

Forgive me for any grammar errors, I'm a bit tired right now.
 
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