Ask me About Gambling BlackHat Ads

[LeaderTop]

Hi Samthevick, I've read almost all of your posts and I can see that you are very knowledgeable in this field.

I work in lead generation in the FOREX industry, which is somewhat similar to yours, and I mainly use Facebook as my platform. I would like to try Google as well, but I'm not very familiar with the platform.
I am aware of some of the things you mentioned, such as adding clocking to the landing page to ensure that the campaign is approved, but I have a question about the creative content included in the campaign itself.


As you know, it is very difficult to manage creativity in these sectors, but lately I have seen many people posting very aggressive ads that violate Facebook's regulations but are still approved. When I access the Ad Library of the page sponsoring them, no BH creative appears.
This means that they also use a cloaking system for creatives, ensuring that they pass both Facebook and third-party checks.

I believe you also have this problem with Google. Can you tell me how I can create cloaking on creatives to pass checks and get approval?

Thank you.

 

[Lumyn]

Thanks for sharing this info - it’s really hard to find and usually takes a lot of digging through other forums and chats.
I’ve got a few questions:

Setup filters:
– Mobile only
– Country-specific
– JS fingerprinting
– Touchscreen filtering
– Click-ID filtering

If I understood correctly, these are cloaking settings.
How do you configure campaigns inside Google Ads itself?
Do you also target only mobile devices in the GADS account, or do you run ads on desktop as well - pointing them to a White page just to keep moderation off the scent?

2. Do you use any extra PHP scripts for traffic filtering in addition to the cloaker script?

3. How do you deal with click-fraud from competitors who try to burn your budget by clicking your ads?

4. Do you monetize the traffic in any additional way to squeeze extra revenue out of it?

5. Do you encourage players to make repeated deposits? Any additional push notifications or something else?

6. Do you collect contacts or fingerprints from the players you acquire, so you can build lookalike audiences later?

 

[bukoolz]

Thank for your all advice, sir. I run BH ads for Gambling, and I low tech. I read all your advice above and really helpful.

So, can I ask you some question?
1. I has a Landing Page for signin/signup with wordpress. And if I rent a Service like Justcloakit, Hoaxtech, any service... will they send me a code/plugin and I will add to my landing page, right?
2. Your rating for all cloaking service? Money is not problem. But I need it work.
3. Does it work with Youtube, GDN and all about G ads campaign
4. What we need to ad on G platform? Browser, IP, VPN,...? Please let me know

Thank you.

 

[samthevick]

Hi Samthevick, I've read almost all of your posts and I can see that you are very knowledgeable in this field.

I work in lead generation in the FOREX industry, which is somewhat similar to yours, and I mainly use Facebook as my platform. I would like to try Google as well, but I'm not very familiar with the platform.
I am aware of some of the things you mentioned, such as adding clocking to the landing page to ensure that the campaign is approved, but I have a question about the creative content included in the campaign itself.


As you know, it is very difficult to manage creativity in these sectors, but lately I have seen many people posting very aggressive ads that violate Facebook's regulations but are still approved. When I access the Ad Library of the page sponsoring them, no BH creative appears.
This means that they also use a cloaking system for creatives, ensuring that they pass both Facebook and third-party checks.

I believe you also have this problem with Google. Can you tell me how I can create cloaking on creatives to pass checks and get approval?

Thank you.

Hello LeaderTop,

Appreciate your time to take a read on all this.
I am very sorry, but I don't run Facebook Ads for a long long time. I've tried to run it a few times, but always had the same issues. Some of my affiliated websites had Cloudflare captcha on it, losing a lot of conversions, and the biggest issue I had is with Cookies. My affiliate link is saved with cookies and doing ads on Facebook kills my aff link cookies, so casino will get clients, but I don't earn nothing, giving them free users ;9

What I can tell you. About the BH Creatives, is normal to not show up on the Ad Library, this type of ads usually run only for some days, so it doesn't give Facebook time to fetch the new bh creatives. What I believe more they are doing is approving a campaign totally with a normal creative and then changing the creative.

Thanks for sharing this info - it’s really hard to find and usually takes a lot of digging through other forums and chats.
I’ve got a few questions:

If I understood correctly, these are cloaking settings.
How do you configure campaigns inside Google Ads itself?
Do you also target only mobile devices in the GADS account, or do you run ads on desktop as well - pointing them to a White page just to keep moderation off the scent?

2. Do you use any extra PHP scripts for traffic filtering in addition to the cloaker script?

3. How do you deal with click-fraud from competitors who try to burn your budget by clicking your ads?

4. Do you monetize the traffic in any additional way to squeeze extra revenue out of it?

5. Do you encourage players to make repeated deposits? Any additional push notifications or something else?

6. Do you collect contacts or fingerprints from the players you acquire, so you can build lookalike audiences later?

Hello Lumyn,

1. I don't worry so much about this to be honest. Campaigns always target around 90% mobile traffic so it's not a issue for me lose 10% for desktop. Just avoid at all costs touching the campaign, only when needed, so this is a step I won't bother to do.
On the cloaker I filter only to Mobile, so all desktop traffic gets on whitepage.
Of course, in case i check i have like 40% desktop traffic, i would maybe bother on this campaign.

2. Nope

3. I said many times here, I don't, really. I just keep runing as it is, I don't even take a look at this.

4. Never

5. It could be interesting to try, but I've never did really

7. Zero, totally on bruteforce

Thank for your all advice, sir. I run BH ads for Gambling, and I low tech. I read all your advice above and really helpful.

So, can I ask you some question?
1. I has a Landing Page for signin/signup with wordpress. And if I rent a Service like Justcloakit, Hoaxtech, any service... will they send me a code/plugin and I will add to my landing page, right?
2. Your rating for all cloaking service? Money is not problem. But I need it work.
3. Does it work with Youtube, GDN and all about G ads campaign
4. What we need to ad on G platform? Browser, IP, VPN,...? Please let me know

Thank you.

Hello Bukoolz,

Thank you for your words
Following up,
1. Yes
2. Adspect for almost all case scenario, Hoax for good part and Cloakerly for good part.
Tier 2 and 3 I would say Hoax or Cloakerly.
Tier 1 Adspect
It's not exact math, but it's how I prefer to use it
3. Does it work, you mean the method I do?
4. Multi login profile, such as AdsPower, Dolphin Browser, etc.
Residential Proxies, 922proxy, proxy-seller
Gmails
I thinnk that's it

 

[bukoolz]

Hello LeaderTop,

Appreciate your time to take a read on all this.
I am very sorry, but I don't run Facebook Ads for a long long time. I've tried to run it a few times, but always had the same issues. Some of my affiliated websites had Cloudflare captcha on it, losing a lot of conversions, and the biggest issue I had is with Cookies. My affiliate link is saved with cookies and doing ads on Facebook kills my aff link cookies, so casino will get clients, but I don't earn nothing, giving them free users ;9

What I can tell you. About the BH Creatives, is normal to not show up on the Ad Library, this type of ads usually run only for some days, so it doesn't give Facebook time to fetch the new bh creatives. What I believe more they are doing is approving a campaign totally with a normal creative and then changing the creative.


Hello Lumyn,

1. I don't worry so much about this to be honest. Campaigns always target around 90% mobile traffic so it's not a issue for me lose 10% for desktop. Just avoid at all costs touching the campaign, only when needed, so this is a step I won't bother to do.
On the cloaker I filter only to Mobile, so all desktop traffic gets on whitepage.
Of course, in case i check i have like 40% desktop traffic, i would maybe bother on this campaign.

2. Nope

3. I said many times here, I don't, really. I just keep runing as it is, I don't even take a look at this.

4. Never

5. It could be interesting to try, but I've never did really

7. Zero, totally on bruteforce


Hello Bukoolz,

Thank you for your words
Following up,
1. Yes
2. Adspect for almost all case scenario, Hoax for good part and Cloakerly for good part.
Tier 2 and 3 I would say Hoax or Cloakerly.
Tier 1 Adspect
It's not exact math, but it's how I prefer to use it
3. Does it work, you mean the method I do?
4. Multi login profile, such as AdsPower, Dolphin Browser, etc.
Residential Proxies, 922proxy, proxy-seller
Gmails
I thinnk that's it

Thank you for this reply, sir.

 

[LeaderTop]

Hello LeaderTop,

Appreciate your time to take a read on all this.
I am very sorry, but I don't run Facebook Ads for a long long time. I've tried to run it a few times, but always had the same issues. Some of my affiliated websites had Cloudflare captcha on it, losing a lot of conversions, and the biggest issue I had is with Cookies. My affiliate link is saved with cookies and doing ads on Facebook kills my aff link cookies, so casino will get clients, but I don't earn nothing, giving them free users ;9

What I can tell you. About the BH Creatives, is normal to not show up on the Ad Library, this type of ads usually run only for some days, so it doesn't give Facebook time to fetch the new bh creatives. What I believe more they are doing is approving a campaign totally with a normal creative and then changing the creative.

I understand some of the issues you've had, and there are probably other ways to enable you to use FB as a platform, but if you're happy with GG, go for it.

As for the answer to my question, I think they are using a different system, because even if they create a campaign with normal creative content and it is approved, when they go to edit it with BH creative content, the campaign will go back into review to analyse the latest change, and therefore it would be rejected.

 

[bukoolz]

Sir, do you have any tips for newbie use Cloaking?

1. What is the best topic I create for whitepages?
2. Does whitepage is same domain with blackpage or new domain register?
3. Should I select Title, Description and Keyword black when setup Ads first? Or we will add black keyword after spent?
4. Google can detected cloaking? And when they detect, they will banned my ad account? Right? Should we prepare many ad account right?

Thank you alot

 

[MikeOfficial]

Hello,

Nice to see a thread like this, it makes me feel like i am not alone with this on going struggle to do ads

ive been running Cloaked ads for a while aswell now.

Did very good for 6 months, now Google is catching up and they are now banning payment profiles etc, which basically means your identity is getting banned and you cant re-use it anymore.
Currently i found a way to still run ads with my ID but they might ''fix'' that soon aswell.

Could you let me know your AD account provider? i am highly interested.

 

[bhgads]

Hello LeaderTop,

Appreciate your time to take a read on all this.
I am very sorry, but I don't run Facebook Ads for a long long time. I've tried to run it a few times, but always had the same issues. Some of my affiliated websites had Cloudflare captcha on it, losing a lot of conversions, and the biggest issue I had is with Cookies. My affiliate link is saved with cookies and doing ads on Facebook kills my aff link cookies, so casino will get clients, but I don't earn nothing, giving them free users ;9

What I can tell you. About the BH Creatives, is normal to not show up on the Ad Library, this type of ads usually run only for some days, so it doesn't give Facebook time to fetch the new bh creatives. What I believe more they are doing is approving a campaign totally with a normal creative and then changing the creative.


Hello Lumyn,

1. I don't worry so much about this to be honest. Campaigns always target around 90% mobile traffic so it's not a issue for me lose 10% for desktop. Just avoid at all costs touching the campaign, only when needed, so this is a step I won't bother to do.
On the cloaker I filter only to Mobile, so all desktop traffic gets on whitepage.
Of course, in case i check i have like 40% desktop traffic, i would maybe bother on this campaign.

2. Nope

3. I said many times here, I don't, really. I just keep runing as it is, I don't even take a look at this.

4. Never

5. It could be interesting to try, but I've never did really

7. Zero, totally on bruteforce


Hello Bukoolz,

Thank you for your words
Following up,
1. Yes
2. Adspect for almost all case scenario, Hoax for good part and Cloakerly for good part.
Tier 2 and 3 I would say Hoax or Cloakerly.
Tier 1 Adspect
It's not exact math, but it's how I prefer to use it
3. Does it work, you mean the method I do?
4. Multi login profile, such as AdsPower, Dolphin Browser, etc.
Residential Proxies, 922proxy, proxy-seller
Gmails
I thinnk that's it

Is anyone still able to run gambling on Google Ads in the search network? For me it’s impossible, it’s been almost 2 months that I can’t run anything there, everything gets taken down extremely fast. Either the account gets suspended for circumventing systems, or the ad is disapproved for this same reason. I’ve already tried everything you can imagine in all tiers.

I can run anything except gambling. When I add any keyword related to gambling, I get suspended or the ad is disapproved for circumventing systems.

 

[zeidannxkaopuacm]

Hey Zeidan,

Yes, it's always a risk to MCC providers. There's a lot of Chinese providers I had that vanished, or closed their business, because of bh advertisers there. That's part of the game, and that's their part of interest, I don't worry about this.
As for the payments, you only pay what you use, there's no monthly payments or what so ever in MCC accounts.
Let's say you deposit 100

I’m not worried about the MCC provider’s side of things. I work in the ads agency field myself and have some MCCs and old accounts on hand. With the economy being tough right now, I’m considering whether to pivot into the black-hat space or even become an MCC provider, so I want to understand the risks involved. From what you know, are these MCC providers legitimate agencies transitioning to black-hat, or are they shell companies specifically set up for black-hat purposes, built up through white-hat ad spending to warm up accounts? thanks！！！

 

[zeidannxkaopuacm]

Additionally, I’ve come across another advertising strategy that leverages the credit limit of an Invoice Account for rapid, large-scale ad spending, followed by account suspension and abandonment without payment. The advertiser only needs to pay the account supplier a certain percentage of the ad spend (e.g., 40%) as a fee, and the supplier doesn’t repay Google either. Can you evaluate this approach? I feel like the MCC used in this strategy must be a shell company specifically set up and warmed up for this model, right?

 

[johny_den]

Hi Samthevick,
I have a question. Can you tell me which keywords you run to get good conversionsThank you

 

[johny_den]

Hey friend, I've been following your thread for a while now, and I want to congratulate you on your great help.
I'm from Brazil and I usually run black niche ads here. I've become very profitable, but the longest an account can last here is about two days.
What I do here is create a pre-sell to be able to post, because government ads, for example, when the Google bot analyzes the page, are already banned for System Fraud. I've never tried cloaking, as offers usually last for a maximum of 1-2 weeks. And an account lasting two days (I believe that's the time for a manual Google review, or am I mistaken?), is already valid for me. With a contingency, I can already make a considerable profit.

The problem is that recently, I haven't even been able to post offers; it's as if Google has flagged me in some way. Even after changing several settings within multi-login, I have the same problem. I've been using AdsPower, BitBrowser, and Octo Browser.
What I've tried is getting old Gmail accounts, pre-warming them by opening a few tabs simulating real-life use, creating a Google Ads account, and not depositing any funds right away (here in Brazil, we have a system called Pix (manual payment), in which case you can create the account without depositing funds right away). I wait a little longer and try to upload the campaign. I usually use few keywords, titles, and descriptions, following your tips. And after just 10 minutes, I receive a System Fraud warning; this happens even when purchasing pre-warmed accounts. I've tried using it without Cloudflare, with Cloudflare, and it still happens. In this case, I create the account using a quality residential proxy.

I saw in your last recent post that you said you don't use a proxy to create the account. How would that work? You create the account without a proxy, and from what point do you use multi-login? When publishing the campaign? Doesn't that in itself already generate suspicion on Google?
When you create the ad account, do you need to warm up beforehand? I mean, access websites or something like that. How do you handle this?

Another question: a Google account that has already been penalized for system fraud. Do you usually create another account with the same Gmail address? I've managed to use a few accounts this way. Sometimes I need to create another payment profile, sometimes not. How do you react to this?

I have a few more questions, but let's take it one step at a time. I'm trying to unravel this puzzle here.

Can I talk to you? I have information I can share with you. You can leave your tele I can contact you.

 

[kruha0]

Can I entrust you with cryptocurrency advertising?

 

[RankBlaze]

Sounds interesting, bro. Always good to see someone pushing volume in that niche. What kind of cloaking setup are you running — custom or SaaS?

 

[samthevick]

I understand some of the issues you've had, and there are probably other ways to enable you to use FB as a platform, but if you're happy with GG, go for it.

As for the answer to my question, I think they are using a different system, because even if they create a campaign with normal creative content and it is approved, when they go to edit it with BH creative content, the campaign will go back into review to analyse the latest change, and therefore it would be rejected.

Hello LeaderTop,

Yes, Google has been my loyal partner for long run, really not needing to change platform for now.
I don't really have idea of how they are doing it. I can have a look to see if I identify something that I used or that's possible to understand, reach me out on private, no issue

Sir, do you have any tips for newbie use Cloaking?

1. What is the best topic I create for whitepages?
2. Does whitepage is same domain with blackpage or new domain register?
3. Should I select Title, Description and Keyword black when setup Ads first? Or we will add black keyword after spent?
4. Google can detected cloaking? And when they detect, they will banned my ad account? Right? Should we prepare many ad account right?

Thank you alot

Hello Bukoolz

1. There's no best topic for Gambling ads. I work with a whitepages provider for some good time now, all I do is send him the domain and he builds me a page based on this domain. (I already have some trust with the seller so make sure you don't share your ads link with any seller )
I can tell you if that makes any difference, that I received pages of all types, coffees, restaurants, bakeries, completely random.
2. Money page always on the same site as whitepage. Never redirect to a external site for the money page
3. Black keyword after spent
4. Yes, a MCC Provider will give you accounts for that, or buying accounts, never use your personal accounts on that

Hello,

Nice to see a thread like this, it makes me feel like i am not alone with this on going struggle to do ads

ive been running Cloaked ads for a while aswell now.

Did very good for 6 months, now Google is catching up and they are now banning payment profiles etc, which basically means your identity is getting banned and you cant re-use it anymore.
Currently i found a way to still run ads with my ID but they might ''fix'' that soon aswell.

Could you let me know your AD account provider? i am highly interested.

Hello MikeOfficial,

I'm not feeling this type of issues, maybe yoru Card Provider might be having some stress with their BIN. Consider swapping Card Provider, or either using MCC Accounts which use Credit Line, so you don't really need to worry about this part.

Message me to share the contact

Is anyone still able to run gambling on Google Ads in the search network? For me it’s impossible, it’s been almost 2 months that I can’t run anything there, everything gets taken down extremely fast. Either the account gets suspended for circumventing systems, or the ad is disapproved for this same reason. I’ve already tried everything you can imagine in all tiers.

I can run anything except gambling. When I add any keyword related to gambling, I get suspended or the ad is disapproved for circumventing systems.

Hello Bhgads,

Not really sure what's happening. Are you getitng banned on the White process, or after adding titles/descriptions or bh keyword?

I’m not worried about the MCC provider’s side of things. I work in the ads agency field myself and have some MCCs and old accounts on hand. With the economy being tough right now, I’m considering whether to pivot into the black-hat space or even become an MCC provider, so I want to understand the risks involved. From what you know, are these MCC providers legitimate agencies transitioning to black-hat, or are they shell companies specifically set up for black-hat purposes, built up through white-hat ad spending to warm up accounts? thanks！！！

Additionally, I’ve come across another advertising strategy that leverages the credit limit of an Invoice Account for rapid, large-scale ad spending, followed by account suspension and abandonment without payment. The advertiser only needs to pay the account supplier a certain percentage of the ad spend (e.g., 40%) as a fee, and the supplier doesn’t repay Google either. Can you evaluate this approach? I feel like the MCC used in this strategy must be a shell company specifically set up and warmed up for this model, right?

Hello zeidann,

For the first part. I can't honestly encourage you to do so. I have zero experience on even creating a MCC account, nor even had any time created a Company for a MCC. I'm not sure how those companies are made, under what circumstances and how the owners lead with this. I can tell you most providers I use have agencies on HK, Dubai and Estonia. Not sure if this means anything really.

For the second part, let's say my provider fee is 10% with 20$ new account.
So when I ask him to create a new ad account I pay 20$ + 10% fee of the deposit. So let's say I want to spend 100$ on ads, I am going to send 110$ + 20$ ads acc = 130$.
Usually fees nowadays are between 10-15%

Can I entrust you with cryptocurrency advertising?

Hello Kruha.
I don't do adveritsing for others.

 

[ilbohemien]

I am running various Google Ads accounts on the matter of Gambling, Casino related, etc.

3rd world countries are welcome, since that's my main target as today.

My accounts are reaching up to 20k USD$ for now. I'm on the expertize of cloaking techniques.

Feel free to ask any questions, I will try to help you as much as I can.

Hi there, right now my bigger problem is to find a google ads account agency that doesn't steal your money. Unfortunately i have bad experiences for Google Ads Account Providers: some agency have a customer care that reply after 2 days to your questions, some replace banned accounts after 1 week... and finally, some also steal money and don't give you accounts. So, can you please suggest me (in DM too if needed) a really serious provider? Money is not a problem

 

[mrmilow13]

Hi Sam! I've read the thread so far, and I've learned a lot!

I'd like to know a little more about how you use your Ad Accounts.

You mentioned a process for creating/warming-up Google accounts, and later mentioned that you have MCC Ad Account providers that you use to run your ads.

What wasn't clear to me was the following: In your current operation, do you create and warm up Google accounts only to receive invitations from MCCs and run ADS through these MCCs? Or do you also create Ad Accounts to run ads directly on the Google account you created/warmed-up?

It would be very interesting if you could elaborate on how you organize the warm-up process (human activity) of Google accounts and how to manage them. In my experience, I see this as a major operational leak. Some tips and guidance would be very helpful!

NOTE: I've never used an Ad Account from an external provider to advertise, but I confess I'm quite curious and tempted to try it.

I'd like to thank you in advance; the content so far has been invaluable.
~ “Tmj pai!”

 

[LucasLee12]

I’m curious, what cloaking methods do you find most effective when it comes to gambling-related ads on Google? I'd love to hear more about your strategies for maintaining high-budget accounts like these.

 

[Katana202]

What about the issue with compromised,malicious sites? Facing that alot on adwords.