Ask me About Gambling BlackHat Ads

Hey friend, I've been following your thread for a while now, and I want to congratulate you on your great help.
I'm from Brazil and I usually run black niche ads here. I've become very profitable, but the longest an account can last here is about two days.
What I do here is create a pre-sell to be able to post, because government ads, for example, when the Google bot analyzes the page, are already banned for System Fraud. I've never tried cloaking, as offers usually last for a maximum of 1-2 weeks. And an account lasting two days (I believe that's the time for a manual Google review, or am I mistaken?), is already valid for me. With a contingency, I can already make a considerable profit.

The problem is that recently, I haven't even been able to post offers; it's as if Google has flagged me in some way. Even after changing several settings within multi-login, I have the same problem. I've been using AdsPower, BitBrowser, and Octo Browser.
What I've tried is getting old Gmail accounts, pre-warming them by opening a few tabs simulating real-life use, creating a Google Ads account, and not depositing any funds right away (here in Brazil, we have a system called Pix (manual payment), in which case you can create the account without depositing funds right away). I wait a little longer and try to upload the campaign. I usually use few keywords, titles, and descriptions, following your tips. And after just 10 minutes, I receive a System Fraud warning; this happens even when purchasing pre-warmed accounts. I've tried using it without Cloudflare, with Cloudflare, and it still happens. In this case, I create the account using a quality residential proxy.

I saw in your last recent post that you said you don't use a proxy to create the account. How would that work? You create the account without a proxy, and from what point do you use multi-login? When publishing the campaign? Doesn't that in itself already generate suspicion on Google?
When you create the ad account, do you need to warm up beforehand? I mean, access websites or something like that. How do you handle this?

Another question: a Google account that has already been penalized for system fraud. Do you usually create another account with the same Gmail address? I've managed to use a few accounts this way. Sometimes I need to create another payment profile, sometimes not. How do you react to this?

I have a few more questions, but let's take it one step at a time. I'm trying to unravel this puzzle here.
 
I've read until page 13 and wanted to ask: would the cloakers & tactic you mentioned work to run a BH niche on Insta/Tiktok ads?
 
Hello, could you please provide me with the Google Merchant account you are currently using? Thank you very much.
Hey Sumirasujoan.

I believe it might be a mistake. I don't have any Google Merchant account.

Hey friend, I've been following your thread for a while now, and I want to congratulate you on your great help.
I'm from Brazil and I usually run black niche ads here. I've become very profitable, but the longest an account can last here is about two days.
What I do here is create a pre-sell to be able to post, because government ads, for example, when the Google bot analyzes the page, are already banned for System Fraud. I've never tried cloaking, as offers usually last for a maximum of 1-2 weeks. And an account lasting two days (I believe that's the time for a manual Google review, or am I mistaken?), is already valid for me. With a contingency, I can already make a considerable profit.

The problem is that recently, I haven't even been able to post offers; it's as if Google has flagged me in some way. Even after changing several settings within multi-login, I have the same problem. I've been using AdsPower, BitBrowser, and Octo Browser.
What I've tried is getting old Gmail accounts, pre-warming them by opening a few tabs simulating real-life use, creating a Google Ads account, and not depositing any funds right away (here in Brazil, we have a system called Pix (manual payment), in which case you can create the account without depositing funds right away). I wait a little longer and try to upload the campaign. I usually use few keywords, titles, and descriptions, following your tips. And after just 10 minutes, I receive a System Fraud warning; this happens even when purchasing pre-warmed accounts. I've tried using it without Cloudflare, with Cloudflare, and it still happens. In this case, I create the account using a quality residential proxy.

I saw in your last recent post that you said you don't use a proxy to create the account. How would that work? You create the account without a proxy, and from what point do you use multi-login? When publishing the campaign? Doesn't that in itself already generate suspicion on Google?
When you create the ad account, do you need to warm up beforehand? I mean, access websites or something like that. How do you handle this?

Another question: a Google account that has already been penalized for system fraud. Do you usually create another account with the same Gmail address? I've managed to use a few accounts this way. Sometimes I need to create another payment profile, sometimes not. How do you react to this?

I have a few more questions, but let's take it one step at a time. I'm trying to unravel this puzzle here.
Hey PainWB.

Well, first starting off, if you already bought a Farmed account, everything should be sustainable.

For my setup (which I don't recommend for fully BH ads), create Gmail account under your own IP, and skip the phone verification.
After that, close the multibrowser, add the proxy and start using it with proxy. All we need to bypass is the phone verification really.

Usually system fraud it's trash for me. Just create a new account and let's go

I've read until page 13 and wanted to ask: would the cloakers & tactic you mentioned work to run a BH niche on Insta/Tiktok ads?
Hey CPAMarket.

I've never done fully stable BH ads on Instagram, nor TikTok. I believe a cloaker should be better in those fields as well, but I'm really not sure. I would suggest you take a deeper look on the forum and ask someone that's running this currently
 
Hi @samthevick,

I see that you used Hoax.tech

Several cloaking software providers have mentioned that, for Google Ads, we should avoid redirects since Google can detect them, even if no bot actually sees the redirect.

When I tried Hoax.tech, I noticed that when JS Fingerprinting is enabled, the only option available is a JS redirect for the black page, which is also mentioned in their documentation.

What’s your opinion on using Hoax.tech redirects to the black page with Google Ads? And why do most other cloakers recommend avoiding redirects, while Hoax.tech seems to throw this out the window?
 
Hi @samthevick,

I see that you used Hoax.tech

Several cloaking software providers have mentioned that, for Google Ads, we should avoid redirects since Google can detect them, even if no bot actually sees the redirect.

When I tried Hoax.tech, I noticed that when JS Fingerprinting is enabled, the only option available is a JS redirect for the black page, which is also mentioned in their documentation.

What’s your opinion on using Hoax.tech redirects to the black page with Google Ads? And why do most other cloakers recommend avoiding redirects, while Hoax.tech seems to throw this out the window?
Hey John

You have 7 days free trial on Hoax.tech, I suggest giving it a try. I use it for almost every campaign on 3rd tier countries. Yes, google flags redirects, but their redirect is smooth, and of course, it's only redirected if it's not a bot. Human reviewers no cloaker can bypass, sometimes they do, but it's not perfect math
 
Hello Tintin,

Oh wow. If someone's selling it probably it's not worth the money. Not showing any kind of desrespect for the seller, and I don't know even anyone who's selling that, but, I don't believe anyone would sell it if they we're making money from it.

Casino Affiliation has become a trend very recently, and a lot of new affiliates are coming by. If you don't have large pockets to start, I don't think it's worth wasting your time here. But, if you have, it's for sure one of the most profitable legal niches.
thanks for your explanation. but as you said below how much money do you need to start?
 
Hey Sumirasujoan.

I believe it might be a mistake. I don't have any Google Merchant account.


Hey PainWB.

Well, first starting off, if you already bought a Farmed account, everything should be sustainable.

For my setup (which I don't recommend for fully BH ads), create Gmail account under your own IP, and skip the phone verification.
After that, close the multibrowser, add the proxy and start using it with proxy. All we need to bypass is the phone verification really.

Usually system fraud it's trash for me. Just create a new account and let's go
Oh~ Sorry~ I'm not very good at English, this is a translation.

I was hoping to ask if you could provide the contact information for the Google account you are currently using.
 
Hey John

You have 7 days free trial on Hoax.tech, I suggest giving it a try. I use it for almost every campaign on 3rd tier countries. Yes, google flags redirects, but their redirect is smooth, and of course, it's only redirected if it's not a bot. Human reviewers no cloaker can bypass, sometimes they do, but it's not perfect math
Are you still able to advertise gambling on Google Ads? I haven’t been able to run gambling ads for a month now, everything gets taken down really fast. Since August, it’s become impossible to run gambling there.

I’ve already tried everything and nothing works anymore.

I’ve already tried different geos from different tiers, I’ve tried different landing pages and cloakers, I’ve tried everything imaginable and nothing works anymore.

The ads are quickly disapproved for circumventing systems whenever I add any gambling-related keyword, even on accounts that spent weeks warming up with whitehat ads.
 
Hello Sam,
First of all, it’s really difficult to run ads on Google’s Turkey GEO, but there are some people who manage to do it — though almost all of them use sites.google.com. My question is: can I run ads using a normal domain like http://www.xyz.com?utm_source=chatgpt.com or .net instead?


Also, I’ve read the forum up to this point and took a lot of notes. Do you think these notes would be valid for this GEO as well? Have you personally ever run ads for Turkey before, and if so, what path should I follow? If I really manage to pull this off, beers are on me for everyone :)


Finally, as in every market, there is competition here too. Even if I succeed in getting my ads approved, what happens if other competitors report me?

And finally, can you write me a kind of roadmap style guide, for example:
1 - Create a Google account using a secure Wi-Fi and bypass phone verification
2 - Set up a cloaker
etc.


Thanks a lot, God bless you bro <3
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Hello @samthevick

You said:
- Every account you set up you should have different proxy (aswell differents domains)

I am total newbie and sorry if my question is noob. I did some research on google about "proxy vs vpn". It says "because proxies are cheaper". That's not satisfying answer. So i want to ask why you are using proxies instead of Vpn?

Thanks for all the info that you give.
 
مHello my friend, I am from North Africa. I want the easiest way to hide ads for nutritional supplements and cosmetics on the Facebook platform. Are there any tips or a training course?
 
Hello Sam,
First of all, it’s really difficult to run ads on Google’s Turkey GEO, but there are some people who manage to do it — though almost all of them use sites.google.comwww xyz com or .net instead?


Also, I’ve read the forum up to this point and took a lot of notes. Do you think these notes would be valid for this GEO as well? Have you personally ever run ads for Turkey before, and if so, what path should I follow? If I really manage to pull this off, beers are on me for everyone :)


Finally, as in every market, there is competition here too. Even if I succeed in getting my ads approved, what happens if other competitors report me?

And finally, can you write me a kind of roadmap style guide, for example:
1 - Create a Google account using a secure Wi-Fi and bypass phone verification
2 - Set up a cloaker
etc.


Thanks a lot, God bless you bro <3
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this keywords i know,it's not a normal keywords
 
thanks for your explanation. but as you said below how much money do you need to start?
Hey Tintin.

I would just say large. There's no exact specific value that you need to start. I suggest, as a bare minimum to be able to make something out here, at least 5k nowadays. But it doesn't mean you can't be profitable with 1k$ for example. It's just, in case you hit something already, you need to have money to scale the campaign.

Hello Sam,
First of all, it’s really difficult to run ads on Google’s Turkey GEO, but there are some people who manage to do it — though almost all of them use sites.google.com. My question is: can I run ads using a normal domain like www xyz com or .net instead?


Also, I’ve read the forum up to this point and took a lot of notes. Do you think these notes would be valid for this GEO as well? Have you personally ever run ads for Turkey before, and if so, what path should I follow? If I really manage to pull this off, beers are on me for everyone :)


Finally, as in every market, there is competition here too. Even if I succeed in getting my ads approved, what happens if other competitors report me?

And finally, can you write me a kind of roadmap style guide, for example:
1 - Create a Google account using a secure Wi-Fi and bypass phone verification
2 - Set up a cloaker
etc.


Thanks a lot, God bless you bro <3
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Hello Sleeplexs,

Turkey it's nice to run as well, you will get success there for sure. I suggest giving a try on normal domain, if you're not getting way to work it out, try to google sites. But, if you see strongly only sites.google and not other domains, it's probably what's working already in Turkey.

If other competitors report you, usually you'll get campaigns reviewed, which is ok sometimes, but sometimes it's boring. Eitherway, you'll never know if someone reported you, so just keep going.

For the road map, sorry for that, but it's all on the thread. I'm expecting someone in the future take some times to pull in all this data here. Meanhwile, I've shared a lot of information (all you need to start running successfully). If you scrape it all out you will have the road map.

Do you think the third world is where the most profits can be made?
Awesome question.

TL;DR: Yes

Now the interesting story. I can give you a whole bible :anyway:

USA seems like a goldmine, rich population, high gambling appetite, and huge player LTVs. Why or how Tier 3 could even be “more profitable”? It comes down to acquisition economics and market scale.

USA (Tier 1):

Ads are expensive. Everyone competes (casinos, sportsbooks, affiliates, even crypto casinos).
Customer acquisition cost (CAC) can hit $300–$500+ per depositing player in gambling niches.
Lifetime value (LTV) might be $1,000–$3,000+, so still profitable, but margins are thinner.

Indonesia (Tier 3):

Ads are dirt cheap, sometimes 10–50x cheaper CPM/CPC than Tier 1.
CAC could be just $5–$20 per depositing player.
LTV might only be $50–$150, but because acquisition is so cheap, ROI can look better on paper.

+

Indonesia has 275M people, with internet + mobile penetration growing fast.
Even if average spend per player is low, the volume of new players can outweigh Tier 1 markets where most people already gamble.

Important point, behavioral factors

In poorer economies, “get rich quick” psychology is stronger.
Even small stakes from millions of players can add up quickly.

So, why​

Cheaper traffic -> higher ROI per ad dollar spent.
Less competition -> easier player acquisition.
Massive untapped population -> scale.


On a $ example, let's say we are spending 10k$ daily on ads.

Numbers Example (10k/day ads)​


USA:
  • $400 CAC → 25 players/day
  • $1,500 LTV → $37,500 revenue
  • $27,500 profit/day (~$825k/month)

Indonesia:
  • $20 CAC → 500 players/day
  • $100 LTV → $50,000 revenue
  • $40,000 profit/day (~$1.2M/month)

USA = whale hunting -> fewer players, huge value, expensive to catch.
Indonesia = net fishing -> smaller fish, but you scoop 20x more.
Both make $$$, but Tier 3 scales faster if you can handle the volume.

And that’s not even counting the occasional Arab whales. Sometimes you’ll randomly get a Sheikh or prince dumping crazy deposits. Happened to me a couple times, pure bonus money, nothing you can plan for.

Hello @samthevick

You said:
- Every account you set up you should have different proxy (aswell differents domains)

I am total newbie and sorry if my question is noob. I did some research on google about "proxy vs vpn". It says "because proxies are cheaper". That's not satisfying answer. So i want to ask why you are using proxies instead of Vpn?

Thanks for all the info that you give.
Hello Karuuns,

You're most welcome. Actually vpn is a LOT more cheaper than proxies ahahha. (But in fact, depends on how many GB's you need)

The problem with VPN is that their IPs are datacenter IPs, and Google (or any big platform) can easily detect them because they’re known, as VPN Server.
Residential Proxies route your traffic through a real home internet connection (from an ISP, like Comcast, AT&T, Vodafone, etc). From Google’s perspective, it looks like you’re just another regular user at home. Much harder to flag, since millions of normal people share the same residential ISP ranges.

مHello my friend, I am from North Africa. I want the easiest way to hide ads for nutritional supplements and cosmetics on the Facebook platform. Are there any tips or a training course?
Hey ysfdz,

Sorry, I don't run Facebook.
 
Here goes a update on this MEGA Thread.

Thanks to lord AI, I just scraped all the content on our thread, and resumed it on an all-one, for all that was discussed till nowaday.

I've revised everything carefully, so I can assure you everything that you see here is correct and approved.

All the newbies hope you enjoy, and even for those who are in, enjoy it!

Quick PS: Please note, that this is all optional and purely based on mine, and other people here experience.

1. Accounts & Setup​

  • Use MCC rented accounts(agency accounts with credit line).
    • Deposit via provider → avoids invoices & ID verification.
    • Run 5–10 accounts in parallel → redundancy.
  • Proxies:
    • Residential or 4G (1 per account). (Recommendation for e.g: 922Proxy)
    • Always mask domains via Cloudflare → prevents link-based bans. !Important!
  • Browser setup: AdsPower or Dolphin or Any Other (Recently OctoBrowser has been a trend) with 1 account per profile.
  • Automation: risky — syncing scripts caused instant bans. Stick to manual ops. !Please don't try to!

2. Warm-Up Process​

  1. Create Gmail on clean local IP (no recovery/phone).
  2. Accept MCC invite → wait 24h.
  3. Launch 100% white campaign (spending $5–10/day).
  4. Let it run 3–5 days.
  5. Duplicate campaign: keep one white, prep duplicate for BH.
  6. Add BH keywords slowly: !IMPORTANT!
    • ≤3/day.
    • Example trick:
      plumber casino
      plumber top casino
      casino
      → mixing white + black eases approvals.
  7. Never delete keywords (triggers ban). Only pause them later, one by one.!SUPER!
  8. Scale budget: +10% daily max. Big jumps = auto-suspension.
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⚠️ Warm-up = patience. Rushing = instant death.

3. Keywords & Creatives​

  • Broad match only (never phrase/exact).
  • Start with blended queries (white + black).
  • Example BH KWs by GEO:
    • Indonesia → slotus gacor, situs online.
    • India → online cricket betting.
  • Titles/Descriptions:
    • Keep generic (“Official Website”), not gambling-related. !IMPORTANT! (Depends on your strategy)
    • Use max 3 headlines & 2 descriptions → easier to swap later.
  • Ads copy flagged if you mention “casino, slots, games” too early.

4. Cloaking​

  • Tools:
    • Hoax.Tech (For most GEOs).
    • Cloakerly (For most GEOs).
    • Adspect (special cases).
      note: hoax and cloakerly work completly good and they are pretty awesome, just my experience, on some specific geos, one works better than other.
  • Setup filters:
    • Mobile only
    • Country-specific
    • JS fingerprinting
    • Touchscreen filtering
    • Click ID filtering
  • Flow:
    Google bot → White page
    Real user → Cloaker → Pre-lander (cookie popup) → Casino
  • Cloaker optional pre-sell page:
    • Fake cookie pop-up (blurred screenshot of casino, “accept cookies”).
    • User clicks → redirected to casino homepage or registration form.
    • Boosts traffic passing Cloudflare, feels natural.

5. Landing Pages (White & Black)​

  • White pages:
    • Minimal: index + privacy policy + contact + (sometimes terms).
    • Must be dev-made (no templates nor AI).
    • Example provider: truewhitepages.com (The one I use, not affiliated).
  • Black pages:
    • Direct casino (if big brand).
    • Cookie popup → casino (for better conversions).
    • Pre-landers (top 10 casinos, reviews) for new brands.

6. Scaling Strategy​

  • After warm-up:
    • Increase budget slowly (+10%).
    • Keep one white campaign live for camouflage. (Never kill this white campaign, just lower budget if you want to.)
    • Run 2–3 BH accounts per GEO to spread risk.
  • A good account lasts 1 week–1 month before suspension.
  • Each account burns $20k lifetime if managed well.

7. GEO Insights​

  • Tier 3 = Best ROI(cheap CPC, looser enforcement).
    • Indonesia → CPC $0.15–0.20, FTD rate up to 2–3%.
    • India → CPC $0.18–0.25, FTD ~0.3–0.5% (1–5 FTDs/1,000 clicks).
    • Brazil, Turkey → profitable with cheap CPCs.
  • Tier 1 = High bans, harder approvals.
    • France → only sports betting legal, casino ads = near impossible.
    • Germany/Spain → very strict.
  • Legal vs. illegal markets matters:
    • In legal (Brazil), ads visible openly.
    • In illegal (France/Indonesia), ads are hidden → can’t spy easily.

8. Conversion & Tracking​

  • Do NOT install GA4 or GTM tags → risk of detection. (Just never do it)

  • Tracking methods:
    • Casino dashboards (registrations, FTDs).
    • Cloaker stats (clicks, bot filtering).
    • A/B tests → language, landing flow (index vs. register).
  • Typical CTR: 10%+.
    • If >50% → likely bots/competitors.
    • If low → wrong language or KW targeting.

9. Economics & Profitability​

  • Startup cost: at least $1k(tools + ads).
    • Tools: $245 (AdsPower free, hosting $40, domains $35, Hoax $170).
    • Ads spend left ≈ $650 → 4–5 days of BH testing.
  • Real entry point: $10k burn before stable ROI.
  • Deals: CPA, CPL, RevShare, Hybrid (all work).
  • Example stats:
    • 3,900 regs → 715 FTDs.
    • India: 1–5 FTDs / 1,000 clicks.
    • Indonesia: ~2–3% FTD rate.

10. What Doesn’t Work (IN MY EXPERIENCE)​

  • Facebook/Instagram: in-app browser kills cookies → poor conversions.
  • WhatsApp funnels: weak results. (Specially in India, it's horrible)
  • Automation scripts: Google flags instantly.
  • Over-editing ads (titles, descriptions, budgets) → fast bans.

11. Common Pitfalls & Fixes​

  • Never delete keywords → always pause. !IMPORTANT!
  • Don’t rush propagation or budget increases.
  • Don’t use templates for white pages.
  • Always keep backup accounts warming → don’t be left idle after bans.
  • High click loss (>50%) in Cloaker→ check page speed & cloaker settings.

12. Key Lessons​

  1. BH Ads = game of patience, redundancy, and testing.
  2. White campaign must always exist in parallel.
  3. Cloudflare is mandatory → prevents domain-based bans.
  4. Cookie popup pre-landers outperform direct links.
  5. Best ROI = Tier 3 GEOs with cheap CPCs + strong offers.
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Final Words​


I think we’ve achieved something historical here.
There is probably no other place online where so much information about BlackHat Ads has been shared in one single thread.

This is the bible of bibles of BH.

I’m not an amateur, and I’m not here for weeks or months. I’ve been in this for years.
I’m in charge of some big operations, and my only goal here is to help you learn, test, and build. (As well as I am learning even more)

Stick around, keep learning from this thread, and apply it. I’ll keep updating it as new methods and google updates come up.
And soon, when Google AI Ads is fully rolled out, I’ll show you some strategies I’ve been testing with the BETA this weeks.

There’s no excuse not to try. There’s enough GEOs, enough angles, and enough opportunities out there for everyone.
It’s not easy to become a competitor, but if you’re serious, patient, and willing to grind… good luck!
 
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"A good account lasts 1 week–1 month before suspension.
Each account burns $20k lifetime if managed well
Increase budget slowly (+10%)."


As you may know, since May/June Google Ads has upgraded its detection systems, making it almost impossible to run cloaked ads.

After two months of relentless testing and troubleshooting, I finally figured out how their new system works and how to run cloaked ad campaigns without suspensions.

Now that that's been taken care of, I have a question about something you mentioned.

If I start with a budget of $10 on day one and increase it by 10% daily, then on day 30, my daily budget will be about $158.50. Over 30 days, I will have spent only $1,644 USD.

To spend, 20K in a month, day 1 budget should be roughly $121.70 to spend $20K in 30 days with a 10% daily increase.

Could you clarify this point?
 
I am also a newbie. I've always had a doubt: I've heard that if you rent a post-pay MCC account and it gets suspended before the end of the month, you can avoid paying for that month's bill. Is that true? If so, wouldn't the company that verified the MCC have to cover that portion of the costs? If an account won't last more than a month at most, isn't this very high-risk? Why would MCC account providers still rent accounts to gray-hat users?
 
"A good account lasts 1 week–1 month before suspension.
Each account burns $20k lifetime if managed well
Increase budget slowly (+10%)."


As you may know, since May/June Google Ads has upgraded its detection systems, making it almost impossible to run cloaked ads.

After two months of relentless testing and troubleshooting, I finally figured out how their new system works and how to run cloaked ad campaigns without suspensions.

Now that that's been taken care of, I have a question about something you mentioned.

If I start with a budget of $10 on day one and increase it by 10% daily, then on day 30, my daily budget will be about $158.50. Over 30 days, I will have spent only $1,644 USD.

To spend, 20K in a month, day 1 budget should be roughly $121.70 to spend $20K in 30 days with a 10% daily increase.

Could you clarify this point?
Hey John,

The “1 week–1 month” line is a mind-made range from the majority of accounts. Plenty last longer than a month, and plenty less than 1 week.
The “$20k per account” I quote is lifetime, and most of those that reach it have been alive ~2–3+ months, not 30 days.
In a single month, being conservative, a typical ceiling is ~$6–7k on one account. The rest of the spend happens in months 2–3 as the account keeps breathing.

How I scale (and why your 10% compounding example feels low)

The +10% rule is a warm-up safety rail, not a hard law forever.

Once the account survives the first bumps (spend history, stable CTR, clean appeals, no sudden edits), I move in controlled jumps at the campaign level using the CBO: e.g. $150 to $300, $300 to $600, 600$ to $800/day.

Editing campaign budget with CBO is way safer than touching it yourself. It looks like natural allocator behavior and trips fewer checks.
That’s how a single account gets to $6–7k in month 1, then stacks to $12–15k by month 2, and crosses $20k lifetime somewhere in month 3 (if it stays clean).

A realistic month-1 curve (per account)​

  • Days 1–3: $10–$20/day (white only)
  • Days 4–7: $40–$60/day
  • Days 8–12: $120–$180/day
  • Days 13–17: $250–$400/day (CBO on)
  • Days 18–22: $500–$700/day
  • Days 23–30: $700–$900/day (if metrics are healthy)

That nets ~$5–7k in month 1. Month 2 keeps those $700–$1,000/day bands more consistently and you start racking serious lifetime.

Why I still say “$20k per account” with a straight face​


Because I’m not banking on one account. I run 5–10 in parallel per GEO cluster:

Some die at $1–2k,
Some make $5–10k,
The survivors, the ones we scale with CBO and treat like a “fragile flower”, creep past $20k lifetime over 90+ days.

On the May/June crackdowns​

Detection got nastier. I adapted by slower warm-up, fewer edits per day, CBO-only scaling.

So tl;dr:

In 1 month exactly expect ~$7k max per healthy account. (With my type of strategy, there's people spending more than me, but probably on 1 week accounts that won't get any good data)
$20k/account is lifetime, typically 2–3 months on the survivors.
The 10% rule is to earn trust; the budget leaps via CBO are how you actually get volume once trust is earned.

I am also a newbie. I've always had a doubt: I've heard that if you rent a post-pay MCC account and it gets suspended before the end of the month, you can avoid paying for that month's bill. Is that true? If so, wouldn't the company that verified the MCC have to cover that portion of the costs? If an account won't last more than a month at most, isn't this very high-risk? Why would MCC account providers still rent accounts to gray-hat users?
Hey Zeidan,

Yes, it's always a risk to MCC providers. There's a lot of Chinese providers I had that vanished, or closed their business, because of bh advertisers there. That's part of the game, and that's their part of interest, I don't worry about this.
As for the payments, you only pay what you use, there's no monthly payments or what so ever in MCC accounts.
Let's say you deposit 100
What stealth tool are you using?
Hello Brave Warrior,

Do you mean the Browser?
I'm using AdsPower nowadays if that's the question
 
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