[Journey] Let's exploit a site for $10m! AI for the win!

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So, total profit so far is under $10k.

Not as good as I expected, but it was 100% on autopilot so I'm not getting mad about free money.

Unfortunately, the journey ends here. The devs patched the vulnerability and can't be exploited any more.

So, I'm going to reveal what this exploit was all about.

For obvious reasons, I won't say the exact site/niche/url of the target as I could discover more vulnerabilities on their site so I won't give my possible-goldmine away



Basically, I usually I game around withdrawal forms/pages/scripts in crypto sites and they usually are well-guarded, but in this one site, I saw that the form accepted all kinds of values for withdrawals, even if I had 0 balance! Yeah, the dream!

So, I tested a lot and see why and how it worked and to my surprise, if I entered a malformed string (not a number) it would trigger something on the backend of the site and it resulted in me getting a few pennies in my crypto wallet while having 0 balance in the crypto site, brand new account, no deposit and I saw that this was profitable!

Sure, probably devs thought that no one would try to exploit a vulnerability that yields a few pennies at time, right? No one is dumb enough to create an account, verify it and submit the malformed string in the withdrawal form for pennies... hehe

And so, I started playing with the form and trying to see hwo much or how it worked to try to see if I could extract more pennies at a time.

Well, I found out that there was a small window of a few seconds that after submitting the form with the first malformed string and submitting another withdrawal form I could extract TWICE the amount of pennies each time! and obviously the withdrawal address I had the private key and could move the funds around and when I saw that I said BINGO!

Now, I had a vulnerability that I COULD extract value and after doing a research on their crypto wallets, they had a frw million $$$ so I thought that if I could automate this vulnerability, I could make big bucks!

Obviously, I tested this manually to see if it was not some kind of promotion or something like that, but after a few trials and getting convinced I was getting FREE money, I decided to start this thread, start the automation part and make some $$$.

I had to make lots of accounts and so I needed emails and so I remembered that there was somthing called "catch-all" emails and so what I did was set up a protonmail account and I set up a few domains and set up catch all with them. But then , I had to automate the reading of the verification url sent when creating an account, and so I used AI to help me set up a script in a server where it would read the incoming emails and detect the "verification url" of each account that I was going to create.

I used AI for this purpose and I think this is the part that woud have taken me a few weeks to set up as it's the first time I deal with emails, setting up the automation, reading the emails and making sure everything worked smoothly.

It took me a few days to set up pyppeteer, the domains for the catchall email addresses and the testing but I'm really astonished at how much AI helped in speeding up the set up. Without it, it would have taken me a few weeks to search all the needed info to get this up and running.

The first automation part

So, by this time, I started running the script on autopilot and man, the feeling of actually making money online on AUTOPILOT for the first time in my life, WAS INSANE!

I thought that there was few eyes on the lookout for anything suspicious from their end, but I didn't think it would be found that quick. It took the site's devs a few days what was happening and they suddenly patched it, momentarily.

Sheez, such a nice streak, but then I found that their patch had another vulnerability. This time I found that for some reason, if I entered an amount in scientific notation and I then urlencoded it, the withdrawal form would go through and the number in scientific notation would trigger the system to send me a few pennies. Unfortunately, the withdrawal amount was not the amoun in scientific notation, but it still worked.

Now, I don't understand why they let their form go through even when I had no balance. I guess no one tested the withdrawal form, or MAYBE, the "vulnerability" was set up by the devs themselves so they could profit off of the crypto site itself?

Eventhough I tried to stay under the radar, the first patch was installed and now it was time for the scientific notation method.

The second automation part

I had all the set up in pause mode and I just needed to make a few tweaks so I could submit the form with the new method I found.

Smooth sailing until a few hours ago from the time of this post.

Will I find a third vulnerability? who knows! (that's why im not sharing the url/site/name)

In any case, so far the profit was under $10k of FREE money.




Key takeaways:

- devs, CHECK your forms and how they are processed in your backend. the withdrawal form SHUOLD NOT be submitting if I had 0 balance
- blackhatters, test everything, you might find gold ;)
- opsec is king. Without it, I wouldn't have dared exploit this vulnerability
- find a way to cashout anon. I converted crypto to XMR then I used P2P to cashout. Read about XMR attacks and how people have been deanonymized so you don't make those mistakes
- AI is great to speed up coding


The things that made it all possible:

- AI. Without it would have taken me a few weeks or days to set the automation part
- Technical knowledge. The part where I tested selenium and pyppeteer (to see which was better for my use case) + catchall email with proton + knowing RegEx and other small "details" allowed me to execute and automate this. The toughest part was pyppeteer as I had to find the exact xpaths and parts of the site where it had to enter the malformed string or urlencoded scientific notation amount as the ids and site structure changed with every new visit.
- Opsec and knowing how to cashout. Without knowing this, I would probably wouldn't even dare the execute as I would be too afraid to be caught. If I didn't know about this, I could have executed and then deposit the funds to my binance account directly :D but convert everything to XMR, use tor network and your own node, then use P2P exchanges to cashout. Read more about XMR possible attacks and opsec (like fee amounts, deposit/transfer amounts, timing, etc)



BIG Note: for opsec reasons, I changed a few things from reality so that if the owner of the site reads this the timeline, methods and more isn't the exact sime as what was executed
 
Great read. I heard of something similar to this. I thought it was the same method at first but the account creation process is a bit different. Good for you OP. Would of been great to see if you got a way with it.

I'm sure someone else is mad about the patches. They probably used it to pay their monthly bills

Reading these kind of stories are always fun
 
Great read. I heard of something similar to this. I thought it was the same method at first but the account creation process is a bit different. Good for you OP. Would of been great to see if you got a way with it.

I'm sure someone else is mad about the patches. They probably used it to pay their monthly bills

Reading these kind of stories are always fun
probably yes

it was a relatively easy find and I'm sure some people are mad :D
 
NOTE: In this thread I'm not going to openly discuss anything that is against BHW TOS nor talk about ways to "hack" a site or something that is illegal.
NOTE2: I tried searching for a bug bounty program of sorts, but there is none, so it's game on! :D

THOUGH, I will be discussing how to protect your site, discuss defense techniques and how I will proceed with this exploit.

For obvious reasons, I will be very vague in many aspects, to hide several aspects of my operation.




With that being said, hopefully you find lots of good educational content in this thread regarding DEFENSE and hope you learn to never let your guard down.


Anyway, in any case, as a little bit of history about me, I've been on this scene for many years and from time to time I've discovered exploits where I've made quite a bit of money. I won't tell exact amounts, but I can tell you that I'm quite knowledgeable when it comes to take max profit out of systems and staying under the radar.

When it comes to exploits, you can go two ways, the one huge hit, or you can go long term, staying under the radar to try and get the most out of it.

The way you choose between those options is to really analyze which option can give you the most profit.

Sometimes going big and taking one big hit is better than the longterm option, but if you can really stay under the radar and execute with perfection, then the long term option is the best one.


I'm not going to give details on what kind of exploit I found or how I execute as it's against BHW TOS, so unfortunately, I can't discuss any of that here.

As a programmer, I know how the systems work behind the scenes and how usually things should work.

It's fun when I think I found an exploit but it gets patched the moment where it could be profitable.

Also, in some exploits, automation is key, and sometimes just real human interaction is better. It depends on the task at hand


Nowadays, AI has been an incredible assistant on creating code that I've been using it for quite some time now. AI speeds up things.

Right now, for the exploit I'm working with, it can be automated and to do the automation I had to learn a lot, and with the help of AI, I learned what I needed to learn in record time.

Last time I needed to learn a new skill, it took me a few weeks, but now with AI, I learned it in a couple of days which is insane!



Anyway, the goal of this journey is to reach $10m in profit.

The way to go is to go long term and stay under the radar, as going with a big hit would yield a lot lower reward (maybe 3-4 figures LOL!), so going the long term way is the way to go.

The funny thing about this is that I believe that the management knows about this, but they don't think it's a serious risk. Fortunately, for me, I know how to execute, how things work and how to make it profitable.



Before automating, I had to truly go by hand and actually test the ins and outs of this to test the limits and see how much I can actually make.

Also, I had to take into account how profitable this is, as if you find an exploit where you can only make say $1-$5/ day, well, maybe it's only worth it you can do it for long term and 100% on autopilot

In any case, I found the limits of this and know to execute with perfection. Now, I have to keep working on my automation task to literally make money online hands-off



In short:

- Found an exploit
- Know how to make it profitable and worth it
- Working on automating it
- Stay under the radar
- Take max profit!


As of now, I found the exploit, found the limits, I know to execute at perfection and now I'm working on a way to automate it and get it up and running.

Key challenges:

- Staying under the radar. If you appear on the radar it's game over.
- Automate at perfection. Too many variables, but with enough workarounds and "hotfixes", I believe it can be done


AI is king when it comes to automation and working things out.

Profit as of now: Enough to know that this is profitable after automating at perfection. AI is an incredible help when it comes to this.

Stay tuned
Sounds Intresting bro but how exatly are you planning to Make 10 Million form this ???

And would it be considered a fraud and Is thier any chances that They sue you for doing this as you till the time they cheak it out They would be down thousands of dollars.
 
Sounds Intresting bro but how exatly are you planning to Make 10 Million form this ???

And would it be considered a fraud and Is thier any chances that They sue you for doing this as you till the time they cheak it out They would be down thousands of dollars.
total profit was under $10k

i thought i could make more, but that doesn't seem to be the way lol
 
So I was kinda correct because this is definitely fraud and not just some "vulnerability", Bug bounty would have been the best path to make money out of it because now they can try and find/sue you for damages and $10k would definitely put you in "serious" crimes category. There were very few people aware of this bug and if you had submitted your bounty report then the company can 100% find you, they'll probably try as well for insurance claims etc.
@DarkerAds
Hey, this is not my business and all but.

TOS is something that company creates to defend their interests and etc. And basically its like a contract when u use certain service or product.

Now, for example if my website does not have TOS that does not mean that it can't be illegal if i do something that will damage their interest.

For example, if i cross certain security measures, and company does not have tos about forbidding people to access this sort of materials, that does not mean, that I am in a right and can do as I please. Because general laws apply and I might end up in jail for accessing and breaching security layers/resources and etc.

Even for example, if I find a bug in a system, and exploit it in a way, that damages company's interests, they can sue me, or even put file or two in police station if somewhere i crossed a line where it breaches civil matters. In both cases having or not having TOS does not matter that much to be honest. But of course if there are TOS thats another card against u, since it makes their possible claim even more valid.

Also, there is no such thing as technically not being a fraud, either it's a fraud or not. Again in case of fraud too, if people/company gets damaged by ur actions it can be fraud again even if their tos does not forbid certain activity. And it can be a other crime too, just depends.

There are also things, that can be in TOS by a company but if I breach them that it does not mean its illegal/crime. Civil matter? Maybe.

also testing system sounds errrm, not too good in this context, if i test BHW system without their permission, that yells trouble for me.

"site attacked" , does not sound good either.

Also, again dunno if you are doing something illegal or not.
This applies to OP's "method" for sure.
If it was scamming them. we would delete this thread.

If it is gaming them, we allow that.
This is not just "scamming" but straight up stealing as the site owners probably weren't even aware.
Sounds Intresting bro but how exatly are you planning to Make 10 Million form this ???

And would it be considered a fraud and Is thier any chances that They sue you for doing this as you till the time they cheak it out They would be down thousands of dollars.
The company probably had 10m in their wallet and OP was hoping to drain all of it i guess.
 
So I was kinda correct because this is definitely fraud and not just some "vulnerability", Bug bounty would have been the best path to make money out of it because now they can try and find/sue you for damages and $10k would definitely put you in "serious" crimes category. There were very few people aware of this bug and if you had submitted your bounty report then the company can 100% find you, they'll probably try as well for insurance claims etc.

This applies to OP's "method" for sure.

This is not just "scamming" but straight up stealing as the site owners probably weren't even aware.

The company probably had 10m in their wallet and OP was hoping to drain all of it i guess.
there was no bug bounty program
DarkerAds
Man, you are describing fraud/theft right now
I played their game and won
 
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