Spotify botting in 2025 without bots?

[Archie the Unicorn]

I would love to hear your opinions regarding the following idea:

I am a new music producer, making decent music. Not AI generated, or low quality or stolen or noise... but decent songs.
I happen to know a lot of restaurant/shop/bar owners in the area who use spotify. They have premium accounts.
Some of them are open 16 hours/day or even 24/7, and the music goes in the background non-stop from a spotify playlist.
They would be willing to play my songs on repeat if I give them a playlist.

From Spotify's point of view:
1. I will be getting a lot of plays with premium accounts
2. Many of these premium accounts are listening 16 or 24 hours/day to the playlists
3. The number of listeners would be low (the number of shops/bars/restaurants)
4. The number of listens would be a lot (non-stop music all day long)
5. Some restaurant chains use spotify family plan to save money, so up-to 6 restaurants use the same main account and sub accounts

My only concern is, how would spotify tell that these are not bots?
Because even if these are legit businesses, spotify just see them as an account, ip address and a stream that goes all day long. There are no interactions, no clicks, nothing. The first employee who arrives to the bar turns on the computer, starts the music and at the end of the day when they leave, they turn it off. During the day it's just plays on repeat.

So my queston is: Would this work or not, and why?
Thank you!

 

[GrowthSpartan]

In 2025, Spotify botting without actual bots involves using real user engagement tactics—like playlist trading, engagement pods, or microtask platforms—to mimic organic growth. These methods reduce the risk of bans but still aim to boost streams artificially.

 

[Panther28]

I would go find out, if its true that they will play your music. I doubt anyone here done this before, sounds pretty unique. I would make sure you leave a set of business cards for when people ask what song is this, so you can direct THOSE visitors to the songs and albums, and get then maybe more of the genuine interest you seek?

 

[Archie the Unicorn]

In 2025, Spotify botting without actual bots involves using real user engagement tactics—like playlist trading, engagement pods, or microtask platforms—to mimic organic growth. These methods reduce the risk of bans but still aim to boost streams artificially.

My user engagement tactics is to get all these businesses (users) to play my playlist instead of the random one they play now. But of course, I will email/message my fans as well, asing them to save my playlist and listen to my songs. However, I don't expect many plays from individuals.

Edit:
Ah I see, I replied to chatgpt :/

 

[Archie the Unicorn]

I would go find out, if its true that they will play your music. I doubt anyone here done this before, sounds pretty unique. I would make sure you leave a set of business cards for when people ask what song is this, so you can direct THOSE visitors to the songs and albums, and get then maybe more of the genuine interest you seek?

Yes, they would do it, because I was DJing for many of them or installed their sound system or some other way we are connected. I literally just had this idea today that "hey... I know a lot of places playing music 24/7, so why don't they play my music?" I already asked some of them and they said yes. My only concern is that how will Spotify look at this "phenomenon"?

I don't know how spotify play farms work, but in this case all songs will be played full, not just half or one minute, because the computer of the restaurant is playing the playlist without anyone touching it. So my songs will have 100% retention and several plays/day. I have like more or less 100 songs, so the daily plays will be divided inbetween them.

Also, if this works out, I will ask the owners to talk with their other friends (also restaurant and business owners, such as clothes shops) to put my music.
Regarding business cards: People can just shazam the songs (everyone does that) at least I never asked what songs is playing, I just shazamed it myself.

But after all this effort, I don't want a big fat ban from Spotify

 

[Panther28]

Only thing you can make sure you do to avoid any problems, is don't put just your music exclusively play others people music too, and charge others for genuine listens! lol the more times your playlist gets played, the more exposure its given I assume too? Yeah like 2 songs per 10-12 of yours in a play list would be cool, at least the ai that spotify uses to spot spam is less likely to pickup a signal of invalid operation, maybe? Its your game to risk, I assume its not a problem, since you already get genuine plays though if that's what happens now.

 

[knightm]

Submit your song via Spotify for Artists to genre playlists. Add one-line pitch and link, playlist placements bring real streams safely.

 

[Ghostman9901]

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[dread4ever]

I created a bot farm for spotify, undectable on the desktop web... however.. that's not good enough.. It's all mobile plays that count.

Looking for help with the mobile plays.

 

[haminuit]

Interesting idea. You got part of the principle right, but you’re overcomplicating things with all these VMs and setups.

In theory your approach makes sense (automation + rotation), but in practice it’s far from optimal. The way you’re doing it is not really scalable and will cause you more technical headaches than actual results.

I won’t go into details here, but there are far simpler and more stable ways to set this up. You don’t need that whole stack of VMs to make it work properly.

 

[GreaseAndGold]

I don't remember the exact figure, but I want to say I believe if the artificial streams don't exceed 90% of a song's total streams you might be in the clear, but considering these users would have the playlist going constantly, it would be tough tracking the specific metrics and it's likely that one or if not more of the songs on your playlist would get flagged for removal. Best case scenario you stay under the threshold and maintain the consistent plays but I'm not sure this is enough to give it a push for the algorithm for true growth.

 

[shijin]

One thing I learned: Spotify mostly flags accounts for unnatural spikes, so slow steady streams are usually safe.

 

[Teflondon1]

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[vrodionovtow72]

To make shopify botting without bots i will use real device and each with sim then it less likely for someone to discover these and will not put your account at risk since each device have his own real fingerprints and look legit

 

[qmoney123]

I created a bot farm for spotify, undectable on the desktop web... however.. that's not good enough.. It's all mobile plays that count.

Looking for help with the mobile plays.

hey, let me know if you found any good ones

 

[AyatollahOfRockNRolla]

I would go find out, if its true that they will play your music. I doubt anyone here done this before, sounds pretty unique. I would make sure you leave a set of business cards for when people ask what song is this, so you can direct THOSE visitors to the songs and albums, and get then maybe more of the genuine interest you seek?

hey, let me know if you found any good ones

how much did it cost you?

 

[AyatollahOfRockNRolla]

I created a bot farm for spotify, undectable on the desktop web... however.. that's not good enough.. It's all mobile plays that count.

Looking for help with the mobile plays.

how much can you earn with your farm?

 

[luisgdr]

Interesting 'white-grey' approach, but you're missing a huge red flag: The 1,000 stream threshold.

Spotify's updated policy nukes royalties for tracks that don't hit 1k streams in 12 months. With just a handful of bars, you'll barely move the needle. Also, 16-24 hours of looped playback from the same IP/Account is a massive footprint for 'Artificial Streaming' filters.

If those accounts only play your tracks and nothing else, they'll get flagged as bots even if they're legit businesses. Tell them to mix your music into a 100+ track playlist with mainstream hits. It dilutes the footprint and makes the 'listener' profile look real. It's a slow burn, not a money printer.

 

[Rdlg]

I created a bot farm for spotify, undectable on the desktop web... however.. that's not good enough.. It's all mobile plays that count.

Looking for help with the mobile plays.

I just read your message. Do you have the option of delivering followers to my Spotify playlists if you have a large number of bot accounts? I'm looking for Spotify follower without any loss.

 

[Rdlg]

To make shopify botting without bots i will use real device and each with sim then it less likely for someone to discover these and will not put your account at risk since each device have his own real fingerprints and look legit

I just read your message. Do you have the option of delivering followers to my Spotify playlists if you have a large number of bot accounts? I'm looking for Spotify follower without any loss.