SEO is a roulette now?

I know you are convinced that SEO is dead from your previous replies. If you don't know how to find plenty of successful examples then maybe you aren't putting any effort in blogging at all, which explains your lack of confidence in SEO.
So many successful examples but you can't even show one?

Even websites from case studies of biggest SEO gurus went down after recent update. Some of them were rewarded with manual penalty. Yeahh... SEO is still great thing to do and very predictable. Keep dreaming.
 
So many successful examples but you can't even show one?
Lol, I won't fall for that. You're fishing. It's so easy to find successful examples, it's harder to beg for them on a forum haha.

The problem is you'll rip off a good website with your low effort technique and then your website will still die reinforcing your belief that SEO is dead.
 
Lol, I won't fall for that. You're fishing. It's so easy to find successful examples, it's harder to beg for them on a forum haha.

The problem is you'll rip off a good website with your low effort technique and then your website will still die reinforcing your belief that SEO is dead.
Oh dear oh dear... you know that internet and google search is public and accessible to everyone? It is not secret private club? Or maybe this special website is ranked on keyword nobody search for and have no idea that people search for it? Yes... keep it to yourself man :-)
 
I will drop probably an unpopular opinion but it seems there is same chance to win in a casino than build a stable money-making website nowadays.

Yeah, i know, wise and respectable Jr. Vips Execs or link sellers will come here now and will tell that , of course, i am wrong. Ok.
Absolutely not.
Nothing has changed, on the contrary, it is getting better and better, all amateurs are slowly removed from the search by Google, and the specialists who remain and work seriously, we get constantly only a plus and a boost to their sites.
 
Absolutely not.
Nothing has changed, on the contrary, it is getting better and better, all amateurs are slowly removed from the search by Google, and the specialists who remain and work seriously, we get constantly only a plus and a boost to their sites.
hahaha
you mean experts from quora, reddit, forbes and other "professional" websites? specialists yep
 
They're not hard to find, but for you they are. I think your bias is so huge that you can't see them.
whatever man... the point is you can't even show example of one small sucessful website... just babbling around
 
Yes its a roulette if you have only 1 site. Now SEO is about scaling. Have more sites in your portfolio and you will be fine. Remember 80-20 rule?
 
You can't just create a random site with some content and rank now.

Google is looking more for "real entities".

That doesn't mean you have a 'brandable domain'. It means you are a genuinely real entity with something unique. They are looking for EEAT.

I see many small sites still doing well, but they're not just faceless blogs. I won't share any here because small ones are too affected by shares, but there's one site for example that's a cat blog..

They are DR 11, with 165 RDs. Started in 2021.

565 pages on ahrefs globally. 236 if you set country to the US.

They sell real products.

They have a water filtering dish, some supplements, brushes.. Total of 16 products.

They also do a grooming kit where they package some stuff together.

They seem to have some other products outside their main shop. Mugs, clothes, laptop sleeve etc. These are obviously just every day objects they've had printed with their branding and cats.


Their brush/cat bowl etc seems to be THEIR OWN. It's got their branding on it. Whether they manufacture this, or just stick a logo on a generic one I don't know. The products look high quality..

They have an affiliate program.

A facebook, instagram and youtube. They actually make some youtube videos. Small channel with 300-600 views per video. Their instagram has 22.8k followers. Their facebook has 4.5k followers.

They are a real business and it's obviously quality. You can see this is not a blog created by a guy looking to MMO, who did some keyword research, hired a writer from a forum and tried to rank.

They have a media kit. They have patents & trademarks.

They have a careers page.

They have a shipping information page.

A refund policy.

Compare this with a typical "cat blog", that just has 100's of low quality AI generated articles or thin human written articles, a privacy policy/terms of service, and some google ads slapped all over the page.

It's not that hard to make some data points and train an AI to detect the higher quality businesses.

Google are in fact not trying to push out small businesses. They're trying to push out thin/useless sites made for search engines, not users.

This business is clearly made for people, not search engines..

Yes, we all want to make money, but you do have to start thinking about making a BUSINESS for people, not a site for search engines.

They will also not be super reliant on google. They'll get a lot of sales through instagram, maybe they run some ads, and they'll have a good email list + word of mouth.

I would say that "make money with SEO" is dead in 2024..

But "supplementing a good business with organic search" is alive and well.

You can still create just a purely informational blog with not much else and rank. And whether your content is AI or human makes ZERO difference. Google don't care, and they're not running detectors. I know, because I'm doing fairly deep research for my own model training, and as part of that research I look for sites under DR 30 that are ranking well, AI sites that are ranking well, and human sites that are ranking well.

What I can tell you about the under DR 30 sites, is almost all of the ones ranking well that I'm seeing have EEAT signals that are apparent to me as a human.

They just LOOK like real businesses.

If you want to rank a purely informational type site you need deep, informative, topically-tight content.

Ie, not a site with 10's of thousands of thin AI generated pages targeting questions, jumping from one topic to another.

But rather, an AI generated site that has longer, deeper, highly factual, dense articles that cover every aspect of every micro-niche within a niche. This still ranks and it ranks VERY well.
Thanks for the detailed knowledge sharing as always you do.
I will drop probably an unpopular opinion but it seems there is same chance to win in a casino than build a stable money-making website nowadays.

Yeah, i know, wise and respectable Jr. Vips Execs or link sellers will come here now and will tell that , of course, i am wrong. Ok.
Comparing SEO with the casino is not the right one buddy.

In SEO, an expert's success probability is higher than that of less knowledgeable and experienced people.

But in the casino, nothing makes the difference between an expert and a beginner purely depends on luck.

Sometimes beginners will get more winnings than experts in casinos.
 
Thanks for the detailed knowledge sharing as always you do.

Comparing SEO with the casino is not the right one buddy.

In SEO, an expert's success probability is higher than that of less knowledgeable and experienced people.

But in the casino, nothing makes the difference between an expert and a beginner purely depends on luck.

Sometimes beginners will get more winnings than experts in casinos.
After recent google update even the biggest seo experts got hit and do not know what is going on...
I casinos it depends what you play... of course some games are based on luck but some on expertise and knowgledge.

In SEO most people will loose their investments ... because their knowledge is based on things that worked years ago, before updates.
 
Kindly use google ser, it's all public.

This is the 3rd time you're begging, do you think it's an effective technique?
I do not beg for anything. You said yourself there are so many successful small websites so was asking politely for just one example. All I can see is amazon, reddit, quora and others I already know about.

Lots of SEO gurus share their succesful stories and their websites... but most of them got hit... so was wandering if there is really good website which is still successful. Not sure why you make it such a secret.
 
hahaha
you mean experts from quora, reddit, forbes and other "professional" websites? specialists yep
You described sites with minimal experts, there is only money there. Yes, people there are quite competent, but not experts, they are not needed there.
And experts make sites, not pieces of shit or weight-pumped portals. I just pointed out in a neighboring topic that in a couple of niches showed sites that are higher in all queries than Forbes without links, without everything, just because it is a site made by an expert, not a piece of shit.
 
You described sites with minimal experts, there is only money there. Yes, people there are quite competent, but not experts, they are not needed there.
And experts make sites, not pieces of shit or weight-pumped portals. I just pointed out in a neighboring topic that in a couple of niches showed sites that are higher in all queries than Forbes without links, without everything, just because it is a site made by an expert, not a piece of shit.
You said it right... couple of niches... that's what left ;-) There are still some scraps left under the table.
 
You said it right... couple of niches... that's what left ;-) There are still some scraps left under the table.
This is me taking a couple niches out of my head and finding sites like this in 1 minute in response to the same question in my group. And it's like that in all niches, everywhere.
 
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