SEO is a roulette now?

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I will drop probably an unpopular opinion but it seems there is same chance to win in a casino than build a stable money-making website nowadays.

Yeah, i know, wise and respectable Jr. Vips Execs or link sellers will come here now and will tell that , of course, i am wrong. Ok.
 
I will drop probably an unpopular opinion but it seems there is same chance to win in a casino than build a stable money-making website nowadays.

Yeah, i know, wise and respectable Jr. Vips Execs or link sellers will come here now and will tell that , of course, i am wrong. Ok.
Of course it's wrong as a stable money making website requires stable links and stable content.

And a stable network of sites that isn't public and is of high quality.

Chances are much higher than in bets if you know what you're doing.

That's applicable to social media and paid ads also.

In bets there's no such thing as "expertise" or "artifical intelligence".

There's no chance to rank. There is just a set of methods and tricks you implement.

If you put a ton of links to rank for a competitive keyword, for sure you're never gonna rank.

That's not how it works.

What you can do is create a website on specified niche and build 10000 articles under niche keywords getting $50 value of traffic per site per month.

That's gonna yield you $500 per year. If you do that 100x you have $50k value traffic at an expense of 100 domains.
 
Of course it's wrong as a stable money making website requires stable links and stable content.

And a stable network of sites that isn't public and is of high quality.

Chances are much higher than in bets if you know what you're doing.

That's applicable to social media and paid ads also.

In bets there's no such thing as "expertise" or "artifical intelligence".
dont know...
you can do all very properly and carefully and still 50/50 you will survive another update
 
dont know...
you can do all very properly and carefully and still 50/50 you will survive another update
The nature of affiliate seo sites is that it's a cycle that never ends.

All you need is profit at scale and profit before next update.

If you can't do it, don't do it.

Nobody is gonna sell you proper links to affiliate sites. These are mostly gonna be public sites that everyone can get a link from.

In eyes of Google your site is not of higher value than random YouTube videos or TikTok links.

Think about SEO once you reach mid 6 figures - 7 figures annum.
 
The nature of affiliate seo sites is that it's a cycle that never ends.

All you need is profit at scale and profit before next update.

If you can't do it, don't do it.
not really, look at established aff websites like Soundguys
definetely not churn and burn
 
not really, look at established aff websites like Soundguys
definetely not churn and burn
Yes, you can pump insane amount of money into affiliate site and think you're the boss.

But that's kinda old thing. You can look at their domain and it's from 2003.

I think it's an exception to the rule and it's not worth replicating what they started doing in 2003 in 2024.

You start a site in 2023 thinking it will do as well as a site built gradually over 2 decades.
 
Maybe you are right with your struggling experience & your perspective.
But I absolutely don't agree with you :)
 
Ah btw, if you have deep bockets, just go for crypto instead of SEO unless you have some serious business plan.

You'll save a nerve on two choosing BTC holding over backlinks of unsure quality.
 
It really depends on the niche. Some niches were not stable back in 2014 as well. In my opinion, Google got gradually worse the past 4 years.
Maybe for black hat you'd do absolute spam like porn and other things that can work like aggregators of content.

The rule would be to not put ANY manual energy into it. All automated or don't do it.
 
It has become more like Mines. One update (bomb) and all money invested gone.
Part of a long term plan is to make money before update and revive sites as new ones (not update old ones) after update to get money before next update. :D

I saw many people succeed with this type of thinking.

You can get 10k accounts per day at $1000. All them get banned but you get back $2000 which is $1000 profit.

It should be written on some wall how "long term black hat thinking" works.

It's not about creating "unbannable properties"... For some time it's possible but never forever.

A site is like paint on walls of Google. Sometimes you need to put new paint on...

It'd be great if you could make your sites / accounts last 5 months instead of 2. Or 10 instead of 5. And so on. But do it in a way that you don't stress too much about them being alive or not...

Separate bullshit (business operations) from yourself. And damn. If someone dedicated their soul to affiliate links, it's time to rethink stuff. It's just a source of income / revenue.
 
I will drop probably an unpopular opinion but it seems there is same chance to win in a casino than build a stable money-making website nowadays.

Yeah, i know, wise and respectable Jr. Vips Execs or link sellers will come here now and will tell that , of course, i am wrong. Ok.

You can't just create a random site with some content and rank now.

Google is looking more for "real entities".

That doesn't mean you have a 'brandable domain'. It means you are a genuinely real entity with something unique. They are looking for EEAT.

I see many small sites still doing well, but they're not just faceless blogs. I won't share any here because small ones are too affected by shares, but there's one site for example that's a cat blog..

They are DR 11, with 165 RDs. Started in 2021.

565 pages on ahrefs globally. 236 if you set country to the US.

They sell real products.

They have a water filtering dish, some supplements, brushes.. Total of 16 products.

They also do a grooming kit where they package some stuff together.

They seem to have some other products outside their main shop. Mugs, clothes, laptop sleeve etc. These are obviously just every day objects they've had printed with their branding and cats.


Their brush/cat bowl etc seems to be THEIR OWN. It's got their branding on it. Whether they manufacture this, or just stick a logo on a generic one I don't know. The products look high quality..

They have an affiliate program.

A facebook, instagram and youtube. They actually make some youtube videos. Small channel with 300-600 views per video. Their instagram has 22.8k followers. Their facebook has 4.5k followers.

They are a real business and it's obviously quality. You can see this is not a blog created by a guy looking to MMO, who did some keyword research, hired a writer from a forum and tried to rank.

They have a media kit. They have patents & trademarks.

They have a careers page.

They have a shipping information page.

A refund policy.

Compare this with a typical "cat blog", that just has 100's of low quality AI generated articles or thin human written articles, a privacy policy/terms of service, and some google ads slapped all over the page.

It's not that hard to make some data points and train an AI to detect the higher quality businesses.

Google are in fact not trying to push out small businesses. They're trying to push out thin/useless sites made for search engines, not users.

This business is clearly made for people, not search engines..

Yes, we all want to make money, but you do have to start thinking about making a BUSINESS for people, not a site for search engines.

They will also not be super reliant on google. They'll get a lot of sales through instagram, maybe they run some ads, and they'll have a good email list + word of mouth.

I would say that "make money with SEO" is dead in 2024..

But "supplementing a good business with organic search" is alive and well.

You can still create just a purely informational blog with not much else and rank. And whether your content is AI or human makes ZERO difference. Google don't care, and they're not running detectors. I know, because I'm doing fairly deep research for my own model training, and as part of that research I look for sites under DR 30 that are ranking well, AI sites that are ranking well, and human sites that are ranking well.

What I can tell you about the under DR 30 sites, is almost all of the ones ranking well that I'm seeing have EEAT signals that are apparent to me as a human.

They just LOOK like real businesses.

If you want to rank a purely informational type site you need deep, informative, topically-tight content.

Ie, not a site with 10's of thousands of thin AI generated pages targeting questions, jumping from one topic to another.

But rather, an AI generated site that has longer, deeper, highly factual, dense articles that cover every aspect of every micro-niche within a niche. This still ranks and it ranks VERY well.
 
I will drop probably an unpopular opinion but it seems there is same chance to win in a casino than build a stable money-making website nowadays.

Yeah, i know, wise and respectable Jr. Vips Execs or link sellers will come here now and will tell that , of course, i am wrong. Ok.
True... Not really possible any more. Google is a playground for big boys now... mainly.
 
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