Scammed by @Cloutsy

[Impulse]

I opened 1 Lounge thread, and when that got instantly locked, and because it got locked, I opened 1 Jr Executive VIP thread.

I meant that you opened a lounge thread, 3 or 4 shit list threads, and then your Jr. Exec thread. I'm not trying to insult you and I didn't actually mean you were making 10 threads a second, that was a joke-y way to say you were opening a lot of threads at once.

It doesn't help when lots of threads get opened, because it means moderators have to come in and try and resolve your issue in addition to dealing with every single thread that you open. This is why we close them. And I believe your lounge thread was not allowed anyway as Shit List issues have to be handled entirely in the Shit List section.

We truly did try to help you, I remember seeing your threads and thinking something seemed off. But the moderators who were handling it tried to ask you for more information in your SLs and you never responded, so I don't think they could do anything else.

 

[whitecupg]

If I understood corrently if the buyer had paid $2000 on expired transaction, seller never received the payment but he would still be forced to add $2000 to his account or get banned?

 

[Ndiqi]

I honestly would be pissed off too if the issues I am getting is for peanuts like $5, $20ish. But I guess we won’t know what’s going on fully clearly as seller was banned almost within the first few posts of this shitlist.

OP could really use some alternative payment method to handle small payments FAST. 10 days to wait to deposit a fund and weeks to receive a refund is just unreasonable especially with how advanced technology today man.

I think @BassTrackerBoats should ask for a raise to @Cloutsy with the way of how many customer service support he has to do for him.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

I think @BassTrackerBoats should ask for a raise to @Cloutsy with the way of how many customer service support he has to do for him.

I'm already overpaid.

 

[lpowell]

There shouldnt be a ShitList to begin with. The premise could result in a worrisome trend. Its a technical issue with a payment processor not a delivery issue and they both provided proofs. Either OP and Seller are notified to resolve it or Seller instructed to make a refund as @BassTrackerBoats noted here he is responsible for ANY issue.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

There shouldnt be a ShitList to begin with.

Wrong.

 

[Ndiqi]

There shouldnt be a ShitList to begin with. The premise could result in a worrisome trend. Its a technical issue with a payment processor not a delivery issue and they both provided proofs. Either OP and Seller are notified to resolve it or Seller instructed to make a refund as @BassTrackerBoats https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/scammed-by-cloutsy.1460600/post-15943535 he is responsible for ANY issue.

There’s enough proof that this situation is a consistent pattern and a common experience when buying stuffs with the seller.

As for the payment processor issue, it is up to the seller which coin he accepts for his platform and how he wants to get paid, knowing for example if btc volatility can cause issue in depositing, if I am the seller, I would probably suspend btc deposit and open other coins with faster transfer time and with less issue on volatility.

Or, I could set it that the value of transfer is based on the coin and not on the dollar. So if it is stated the transfer should be 0.xxxxx btc then that’s it, so it does not matter if the value of the btc is higher or lower by the time transfer is completed. The transfer of exact btc amount is done and should be processed as is.

 

[SMMSHIBA]

If the problem comes from my party, ye sure i will refund.
Even its not my fault, for nice manner/ regular customers i still refund / replace / give discount.
But for bad customers, i dont want to give them a single $ back. And there are so many of them, multi accounts, charged back, dont follow our rule,trick/ scam us...

For example, i have false feedbacks in my BST. Some newbie came to my thread, call me scammer, sell trash services...
But they arent even my customers. I never had any deal with them before.I tried to pm them to solve the problem, yeah of course no reply from them.
I tried to report their comments. But staff member rejected and told me to solve the problem and make customers happy. What can i do in this case?

I dont want to open multi shitlist per false feedback and make @BassTrackerBoats more headache. I will look like an annoying cry baby.
So me or @Scorpion Ghost let it be. But it hurts our business a lot, new customers who read those feedbacks dont want to buy from us for sure.

I hope there are some judgements for false feedback in future.

 

[Thunder Digitals]

Guys, it's over. Get over it.

I don't know who's fair or unfair, but what should we learn from this is "Remain professional" and try to handle these situations professionally.

Work on your support management so these situations don't ever come.

 

[Heiko]

Yikes. 10k chargeback after earning almost 70k per month which mostly might be credited to his BHW BST. That's some fucked up shit right there.

 

[Ndiqi]

If the problem comes from my party, ye sure i will refund.
Even its not my fault, for nice manner/ regular customers i still refund / replace / give discount.
But for bad customers, i dont want to give them a single $ back. And there are so many of them, multi accounts, charged back, dont follow our rule,trick/ scam us...

For example, i have false feedbacks in my BST. Some newbie came to my thread, call me scammer, sell trash services...
But they arent even my customers. I never had any deal with them before.I tried to pm them to solve the problem, yeah of course no reply from them.
I tried to report their comments. But staff member rejected and told me to solve the problem and make customers happy. What can i do in this case?

I dont want to open multi shitlist per false feedback and make @BassTrackerBoats more headache. I will look like an annoying cry baby.
So me or @https://www.blackhatworld.com/goto/post?id=15944422 let it be. But it hurts our business a lot, new customers who read those feedbacks dont want to buy from us for sure.

I hope there are some judgements for false feedback in future.

It is indeed can feel unfair, I have experienced the same thing, I also believe as sellers we also need some kind of protection from type of buyer scam, but I don’t know, all I can do for now is just be more selective with the type of people that contacted me from my BST. If they are just rude in the beginning I would probably just ignore… it just best to avoid headache in the future.

 

[NicolaeP]

I think this thread should be closed for comments! @Diamond Damien

 

[MisterF]

Yikes. 10k chargeback after earning almost 70k per month which mostly might be credited to his BHW BST. That's some fucked up shit right there.

Almost as fucked up as his support ticket comments.

 

[thescrrr]

I think this thread should be closed for comments! @Diamond Damien

This is the most entertaining thread I've read here in the last 8 months and you want to close it :|

 

[MakeCoolDays]

So yeah that was ridiculous...

@Scorpion Ghost , you know what is ridiculous ? An old member like you, creating obnoxious threads about BHW (in the lounge), crying and bitching like a spoilt brat, ONLY about you not being able to make a payment to renew your subscription. An old member who is sensible and matured, would in such a case do what the correct thing to do would be and that is to contact BHW support and not bitch about that openly. You had that payment issue to renew your subscription, because of YOUR inabilities and then you created a lengthy thread about it ?
So, shut the f__k up. And you mentioned :-

So from then on I'm not as active here anymore.

That is YOUR choice and prerogative. You are not doing BHW any favour. As an upgraded member, if you add value to the forum, it is done for you to derive your value out of it. And you are not capable enough for that, based on what you yourself mention. So, if you are not active anymore, is BHW going to shut down ?
You are a self-entitled prick or atleast that is what you portray yourself to be.
I have 2 friends who are Jr.VIP members and their experience is that BHW staff does attend to issues quite efficiently and effectively. Just because you have paid for something, it does not mean that some people become your paid servants.
And about that sales thread of your's rant, BHW marketplace rules states that only potential buyers or those who have bought, can post in a sales thread. You mentioned that you provided proof, etc about some member posting in your sales thread. You are as usual lying. It is not at all difficult to prove that someone has not bought anything from you, but you are incapable of doing that or most probably, you are lying (like you have done in many instances).
Even @RoiBox is anothe lair. @RoiBox had posted a link to a Reddit sub-forum, so that got deleted (due to BHW rule violation) and then @RoiBox played innocence and lied that he did not post any link to any Reddit sub-forum. Then a mod showed the proof of that. Then @RoiBox went to bitch mode.
See, it does not matter if you or @RoiBox are old members, leave your self-entitiled attitudes out of this forum. If not then it is better to do what you mentioned, which is be less active. You do not like any forum or any platfrom, then leave. No one is pointing a gun on your head to stay. But, if you stay, then stay in a pleasant manner. It is as simple as that.

 

[roydan]

Yikes. 10k chargeback after earning almost 70k per month which mostly might be credited to his BHW BST. That's some fucked up shit right there.

Did he really do it or is this a comment on what he said on the ticket?

 

[awesomewebsites]

how many warning points in total before we get banned?

It cannot be fixed number. I am sure that if someone got lot of warnings in past but improved there behaviour here later after learning from mistakes, that will be kept in mind.

 

[Heiko]

Did he really do it or is this a comment on what he said on the ticket?

I can't go into specifics but i assume he is trying to.

 

[thescrrr]

@Scorpion Ghost , you know what is ridiculous ? An old member like you, creating obnoxious threads about BHW (in the lounge), crying and bitching like a spoilt brat, ONLY about you not being able to make a payment to renew your subscription. An old member who is sensible and matured, would in such a case do what the correct thing to do would be and that is to contact BHW support and not bitch about that openly. You had that payment issue to renew your subscription, because of YOUR inabilities and then you created a lengthy thread about it ?
So, shut the f__k up. And you mentioned :-

That is YOUR choice and prerogative. You are not doing BHW any favour. As an upgraded member, if you add value to the forum, it is done for you to derive your value out of it. And you are not capable enough for that, based on what you yourself mention. So, if you are not active anymore, is BHW going to shut down ?
You are a self-entitled prick or atleast that is what you portray yourself to be.
I have 2 friends who are Jr.VIP members and their experience is that BHW staff does attend to issues quite efficiently and effectively. Just because you have paid for something, it does not mean that some people become your paid servants.
And about that sales thread of your's rant, BHW marketplace rules states that only potential buyers or those who have bought, can post in a sales thread. You mentioned that you provided proof, etc about some member posting in your sales thread. You are as usual lying. It is not at all difficult to prove that someone has not bought anything from you, but you are incapable of doing that or most probably, you are lying (like you have done in many instances).
Even @RoiBox is anothe lair. @RoiBox has posted a link to a Reddit sub-forum, so that got deleted (due to BHW rule violation) and then @RoiBox played innocence and lied that he did not post any link to any Reddit sub-forum. Then a mod showed the proof of that. Then @RoiBox went to bitch mode.
See, it does not matter if you or @RoiBox are old members, leave your self-entitiled attitudes out of this forum. If not then it is better to do what you mentioned, which is be less active. You do not like any forum or any platfrom, then leave. No one is pointing a gun on your head to stay. But, if you stay, then stay in a pleasant manner. It is as simple as that.

The plot thickens.

 

[awesomewebsites]

10k chargeback after earning almost 70k

What is this 10k chargeback? Did I miss any reply or comment here?