Competitor buying fake google reviews

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Hey everyone,

I live and own a restaurant in a seaside resort kind of city where I make most of my business during the 2 months of summer with massive amount of tourists. I precise this point because "de facto" it means that most of my customers are "one shot" since they only spend a few days in my city. This means ORM is extremely important since people don't know you and will chose where to eat according to the best reviewed restaurants in the area.

An old competitor (I only have one with this type of food) made some renovation work, changed his brand name, and have a brand new Google maps/business profile page where he cumulated 25 reviews in a week (only 5 stars of course) which is statistically impossible, even if he'd asked some friends to post some. I've had around 110 reviews in almost 5 years (small city), and know a lot of restaurant owners and bar owners with the same ratio. But apart from this being obviously fake reviews, the names, profiles and the unrealistic tone of the reviews are a lot too suspicious to make me believe a second it's legit.

All this means he's cheating, and getting clients he wouldn't get if he had his old 3,9/5 stars google profile. I have 4,3/5 and appart from asking like 2 friends and like 4 family members to help me out when I started the business (like everyone else I guess) it's all organic.
I wouldn't mine if it was a different kind of business with returning customers as they would actually know we make better food (which is true even though it may sound arrogant, and it's known by the local people). But as I said, it's all one shot.

But more than the money I'd lose because of this, it just drives me nuts this guy is not playing by the rules, even though I profoundly hate the google rating system myself. So I'm kind of like, if he doesn't want to play it by the rules, let's play his game.

And HERE is my question (sorry for the long explanation), I'd like to create fake reviews on him just to make him go down to the point where he was in the first place.

I tried to create new gmail accounts, using a VPN, but since it has to be confirmed by a phone number, my reviews got deleted by google.
I then tried creating a non gmail email account with proton, but even though you can actually make google reviews with it, google will still ask for a phone number in order to confirm ID. So I thought about a burner phone number, but it's too laborious and would cost me money which is not what I want.

Do you know of a simple solution to make, by yourself, fake google reviews without getting caught ? Like do I have to change my device, browser or anything like that ?

I know it may all sound small and silly, but I don't want to destroy this guy and his business, I just want the balance to be restored and I've always been interesting in how you can override this google review system.

Thank's a lot in advance
 
I would rather buy the service, it would cost less than the time you need to create multiple Gmail accounts and doing all of the work.
Also it would be easy for the competitor to pin down that you did "order the hit" so I would consider that he may come for retaliation.
 
I would rather buy the service, it would cost less than the time you need to create multiple Gmail accounts and doing all of the work.
Also it would be easy for the competitor to pin down that you did "order the hit" so I would consider that he may come for retaliation.
Thank's for your reply. But as I said I'm really interested in the way you can make it by yourself. Also I wouldn't need a lot since the scale of this is obviously not big. Something like 3 or 4 one star review would actually do the job and I wouldn't make them all at once so he would never ever know it's coming from my side.
Another thing is that the service providers in my country only offer 5 stars review for your own profile, I found one from the USA but I don't really trust it + the profiles would be far too suspicious according to the location they come from.
 
Thank's for your reply. But as I said I'm really interested in the way you can make it by yourself. Also I wouldn't need a lot since the scale of this is obviously not big. Something like 3 or 4 one star review would actually do the job and I wouldn't make them all at once so he would never ever know it's coming from my side.
Another thing is that the service providers in my country only offer 5 stars review for your own profile, I found one from the USA but I don't really trust it + the profiles would be far too suspicious according to the location they come from.
Since it is morally incorrect to damage reputation of a company such services would not be loudly advertised but I think sellers on this forum would not have much problem with that. After all it's just business.

If you insist on doing it yourself, then buy a fresh Sim card, activate the internet, tether that internet to a PC, run an anonymous browser, using each anonymous profile (for example ghost browser gives a number of free profiles) from the browser to create a Gmail account. Warm up each of the accounts by giving random positive reviews on Google maps and after a week or so and all the accounts timely apart, give your negative review for the competitor.
If google still finds the connection of these accounts then I would suggest renting a couple of residential proxies and doing the same from different IPs.

This is how I would do it if I just needed a handful of reviews.
 
Since it is morally incorrect to damage reputation of a company such services would not be loudly advertised but I think sellers on this forum would not have much problem with that. After all it's just business.

If you insist on doing it yourself, then buy a fresh Sim card, activate the internet, tether that internet to a PC, run an anonymous browser, using each anonymous profile (for example ghost browser gives a number of free profiles) from the browser to create a Gmail account. Warm up each of the accounts by giving random positive reviews on Google maps and after a week or so and all the accounts timely apart, give your negative review for the competitor.
If google still finds the connection of these accounts then I would suggest renting a couple of residential proxies and doing the same from different IPs.

This is how I would do it if I just needed a handful of reviews.
Every word.
Dont waste your time.
 
Google is Smart

If Google Finds Reviews Suspicious it will Filter.

Google is aware about VPN

Google Reviews is one of the major ranking factor to Rank GMB
 
I can understand your frustration. But I would not go down this road. It is way harder to create fake Google reviews than it was just a year ago. Instead of investing in fake reviews, invest in Google ads and have top search for your keywords.
 
There are services in the marketplace that provide sms verification. Have a look around. If you find a service that is providing sms verification codes, make sure that the service works with google before you buy it. Not all of them will like pinger and text free apps, for example. Google detects them as VOIP.
 
Thank’s a lot for all thé replies guys.

It seems a lot harder than I would have thought indeed. I was guessing you’d just simulate an actual person opening a new gmail account like we all do/did (different IP, different device and boom).

Buying the reviews seems a lot easier but also a lot safer as I am not involved in any "official" way.

I wouldn’t go with google ads as there is actually no SEO competition with what I do, I do Facebook/Insta ads which works great.

Also don’t understand why I wouldn’t do it as some suggested, what are the risks, especially if it’s bought service ?
 
You won't find many topics on BHW that're taboo, but negative SEO is definitely one. The truth is the internet has been "gamed" since the very beginning and will continue to be so far into the future. It's not just Google SERPs that are gamed either. Yelp, Airbnb, Call of Duty leaderboards, etc. It sucks sure, but it's a just how incentive structures work.
I'd like to also point out the irony of posting this in the White Hat section.
 
Pm me the name/link of your restaurant to leave a good review. Or the name/link of your competitor's restaurant to leave a bad review. Either one for free, I'm just curious which one you prefer.
 
You either need to get 'fake positive reviews' for your own place or focus on offering great food and service and encouraging your clients to leave real reviews.
 
So you want to wallow in mud because your competition is wallowing in mud?

Not the best strategy as you can kill it with positive reviews instead of stinking up the internet with fake bad ones.
 
Hey everyone,

I live and own a restaurant in a seaside resort kind of city where I make most of my business during the 2 months of summer with massive amount of tourists. I precise this point because "de facto" it means that most of my customers are "one shot" since they only spend a few days in my city. This means ORM is extremely important since people don't know you and will chose where to eat according to the best reviewed restaurants in the area.

An old competitor (I only have one with this type of food) made some renovation work, changed his brand name, and have a brand new Google maps/business profile page where he cumulated 25 reviews in a week (only 5 stars of course) which is statistically impossible, even if he'd asked some friends to post some. I've had around 110 reviews in almost 5 years (small city), and know a lot of restaurant owners and bar owners with the same ratio. But apart from this being obviously fake reviews, the names, profiles and the unrealistic tone of the reviews are a lot too suspicious to make me believe a second it's legit.

All this means he's cheating, and getting clients he wouldn't get if he had his old 3,9/5 stars google profile. I have 4,3/5 and appart from asking like 2 friends and like 4 family members to help me out when I started the business (like everyone else I guess) it's all organic.
I wouldn't mine if it was a different kind of business with returning customers as they would actually know we make better food (which is true even though it may sound arrogant, and it's known by the local people). But as I said, it's all one shot.

But more than the money I'd lose because of this, it just drives me nuts this guy is not playing by the rules, even though I profoundly hate the google rating system myself. So I'm kind of like, if he doesn't want to play it by the rules, let's play his game.

And HERE is my question (sorry for the long explanation), I'd like to create fake reviews on him just to make him go down to the point where he was in the first place.

I tried to create new gmail accounts, using a VPN, but since it has to be confirmed by a phone number, my reviews got deleted by google.
I then tried creating a non gmail email account with proton, but even though you can actually make google reviews with it, google will still ask for a phone number in order to confirm ID. So I thought about a burner phone number, but it's too laborious and would cost me money which is not what I want.

Do you know of a simple solution to make, by yourself, fake google reviews without getting caught ? Like do I have to change my device, browser or anything like that ?

I know it may all sound small and silly, but I don't want to destroy this guy and his business, I just want the balance to be restored and I've always been interesting in how you can override this google review system.

Thank's a lot in advance

Don't take this the wrong way but you don't sound sophisticated enough in these matters to do it properly and you risk far more worse consequences. Not only could you be sued if found out but its really petty. You don't have any proof these reviews are fake...none I bet. Just your opinion. How do you know he/she didn't ask every customer and offer them something like a free drink or meal.

You're not only going to waste your time but you are going to make this worse for yourself. No one likes people around here who do negative SEO, its a really shitty thing to do and you would not like it if it started happening to you If you do it I genuinely hope it is put back on you 10 fold. balance restored would be you making an effort to get more reviews. no matter how small your town/city is 110 reviews over 5 years is fucking shit, especially as some are not organic. Concentrate on your own business and that will shine through, try and be a shitty person and that will shine through instead. How do you know if this person is not going through some sort of family emergency. What if he/she has a kid with cancer and they are trying everything they can think to make their business grow to support their family. just think before you do stupid shit.

So you want to wallow in mud because your competition is wallowing in mud?

Not the best strategy as you can kill it with positive reviews instead of stinking up the internet with fake bad ones.

lol you beat me to it again, my sentiments exactly but more to the point.
 
You don't know more people in your life you could ask?

I've been in plenty of restaurants and bars where the staff ask for reviews when they bring the bill. I don't love it and don't often do it but if I had a good interaction I will. Usually the server asks for me to put their name in it and say they get some kind of bonus for it. If you run a similar deal with your staff, you'll encourage them to get you a lot of real reviews and make your staff happier.
 
Report every fake review to Google.
And also beware that fraudsters are pumping in fake reviews and then trying to extort money from business owners, like "pay us US$xxx to get your negative reviews removed".
Just keep reporting each fake review to Google.
 
Report every fake review to Google.
And also beware that fraudsters are pumping in fake reviews and then trying to extort money from business owners, like "pay us US$xxx to get your negative reviews removed".
Just keep reporting each fake review to Google.

You can do this but google rarely takes down reviews, especially if they only get one or two people reporting.
 
Don't take this the wrong way but you don't sound sophisticated enough in these matters to do it properly and you risk far more worse consequences. Not only could you be sued if found out but its really petty. You don't have any proof these reviews are fake...none I bet. Just your opinion. How do you know he/she didn't ask every customer and offer them something like a free drink or meal.

You're not only going to waste your time but you are going to make this worse for yourself. No one likes people around here who do negative SEO, its a really shitty thing to do and you would not like it if it started happening to you If you do it I genuinely hope it is put back on you 10 fold. balance restored would be you making an effort to get more reviews. no matter how small your town/city is 110 reviews over 5 years is fucking shit, especially as some are not organic. Concentrate on your own business and that will shine through, try and be a shitty person and that will shine through instead. How do you know if this person is not going through some sort of family emergency. What if he/she has a kid with cancer and they are trying everything they can think to make their business grow to support their family. just think before you do stupid shit.



lol you beat me to it again, my sentiments exactly but more to the point.
Don’t want to start any argument here even though it seems I am almost invited to.

But for now I am the one who did nothing wrong and angry against a clear injustice, what ever you think, it is more than obvious these reviews are fake.
I also find it very ironical and I am sorry if I am not as morally advanced as you that there is some sort of bad things to do and bad things not to do.
To me if you are faking SEO in a positive way, it impacts your competitor automatically in a negative way (the guy who’s son has cancer), considering the competitor is playing by the rules and you’re stealing customer from him.
Then for now I am the one who is impacted in a direct or indirect way.
I thought it was clear though that I don’t have any problem with my own SEO and happy with my business. I am just frustrated by cheating people and the fact they can’t be stopped except by cheating too.

Anyways thank’s again for all the replies, I think I read enough to refrain myself from doing it as I am not paying for this at all.
The feeling of injustice remains though.

You don't know more people in your life you could ask?

I've been in plenty of restaurants and bars where the staff ask for reviews when they bring the bill. I don't love it and don't often do it but if I had a good interaction I will. Usually the server asks for me to put their name in it and say they get some kind of bonus for it. If you run a similar deal with your staff, you'll encourage them to get you a lot of real reviews and make your staff happier.
This not something socially accepted or welcomed in my country, only with long time customers who almost became friends
 
You can do this but google rarely takes down reviews, especially if they only get one or two people reporting.
You did not get the point. It is not about people reporting. I am referring to YOU the business owner reporting each and every fake review. In that case, quite often they do investigate and take some action.
 
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