✈️ Scaling up to $20,000 month using free traffic | ⛔ Passive income on autopilot

[NulledCode]

I was able to replicate passive windows network fingerprints on a Linux machine, that said I haven't noticed any benefits from this, at least on the small scale Im running my operation on. I created this on a proxy level so I could route my traffic through the emulation of the needed OS network fingerprints anytime I need. About half year ago I described this process in detail here of forums but did not get any feedback so that topic died, as you said - most of people focuses on browser FP spoofing and its kinda right because for most of the times, even that is overkill.

Yea, unless Cloudflare makes greater use of this and more people use CF then I don’t see small scale businesses being able to make use of this because of resource demand. The ability to do it is there and wouldn’t be surprised to see it implemented more main stream in the future. With Apple’s Private Relay coming about gone will be the days of blocking by IP and more reliance on FP or other identifier’s.

That’s great you are routing through emulators which will be nearly impossible to detect.

 

[Whitehatdoe]

Just curious how do you sales pitch YouTube comments. Do you have promotional link in the comments?
Or do they have to click your profile and view your videos for link?

 

[lucky.sparks]

Just curious how do you sales pitch YouTube comments. Do you have promotional link in the comments?
Or do they have to click your profile and view your videos for link?

Im not doing youtube, it was a part of the project but not anymore.

 

[lucky.sparks]

By continuing my update,

I got banned from my network and here is why​

Or better subject line perhaps would be "Lost $6000 and what you can do to try to avoid it"

Behold. Below you can enjoy the screenshot of the decision that took an unexpectedly wrong turn. My aff manager reached out to me and proposed that I could try out a new offer from the same advertiser I take my current offers. As I trust my manager with all my soul, I went for it.



Seems innocent, right? Ha.

A week later I thanked my aff manager as my avg EPC from 0.09 increased to 0.12. It's like 35% gain, great results. It's worth adding that I did not request this specific offer and that I have worked with the same advertiser for almost 2 years now and they always were happy, I received payment bumps and they asked about scaling up.

Fast forward - a month later, my telegram bot went all crazy, reporting clicks but no conversions. Checked offers and they all redirected to Googles landing page after passing the network offer link, so clicks were counting but leads got forwarded to google.

As there sometimes are issues with links not working and usually I catch them first before my managers - at this point I think nothing more than that they again fucked up something, so I go to my manager with my usual "hey guys there is a problem again, btw why you can't just automate link checking, I will start to ask to pay me for doing your work, love ya anyways".

The manager promises me to check what is going on and comes back with "The advertiser has suspicions about your traffic".

At this point I still think that this is some sort of silly mistake because as I already mentioned, I work with the same advertiser for quite a while and I haven't changed anything in my traffic or setup, it's still my best assistant doing her work.

An investigation is started, me and my manager - we both are confused and we both think this will get quickly solved. How naive.

What should be a quick issue solved ended up in a two-week-long disaster where names got called, fingers pointed, tiers, laughs, and other emotions.

Resume - advertiser claims my traffic is fraudulent and I will not get paid for the last period.

As my manager decides that she trusts me and I decide that I trust my manager, we agree to continue to work together but with the current advertiser blocked on my account. They still have suspicions about me and I will need some time to clear my name in the eyes which I kinda understand as this business is a grey hat as one can be. Probably even black hat by what I've seen on those offer pages.

This irritates me deeply as if I would run fraud, I would make sure it remains undetected. That said, I never shit where I eat.

And the audacity of the fraud the advertiser is claiming is just outrageous.

They claim that the same cards were used to fulfill the offers, with one card used even 213 times.

Here you can see the log presented by the advertiser. (can give kudos to them for green/hackish spreadsheet tho, right?)

Did you note fake-ish email names used? I would never go with "horny4366" or "103noreply", my identities would have real Gmails, real looking accounts and for no way, I would submit the same card more than a few times.

So what really happened?

I don't know. And seems that my manager does not know either.

My theories:

a) My traffic gave unwanted attention from three-letter agencies, advertiser wanted to quit me and just took some of the cash with it.
b) Advertisers' software developer fucked up hard and I got nailed to the cross because of their mistake.
c) There are some kinds of cards users can use to bypass offer registration pages, e.g. Revolut app offers one-time purchase visa cards that can be used for safe eCommerce purchases, perhaps they are marked somehow as the same card used.

The thing is - issues started only after switching to that unique offer. Confusing.

What do you think happened here? Perhaps someone had a similar experience.


What you can do to avoid my mistake?

Split your traffic.
- between networks, never ever use only one network.
- between offers. especially if you onboard a new offer, test it.

Always ask your manager to confirm that everything is alright. Only my good relationship with my managers made sure Im not banned and I can continue to use these networks.

These were adult game offers, so if you run them - be aware that there is only one advertiser that has those offers even if there are many of those games as my managers stated - there is only one company behind them.

Right now I run regular adult dating offers, they convert about the same.

Thank you for reading about my experience.

Here are the subject lines I will keep you updated in the following weeks,

Some of the next subject lines I will post and continue to update you on in the following weeks:
- I got banned from my network and here is why
- They shave you shamelessly
- Spent 1000$ on domains and for nothing
- love you, Tier 3
- AI driven proxy setup
- Instagram limits, triggers, and proxy setup
- Microservice architecture
- Mental Health

 

[OccultKingdoms]

Sorry to hear about your loss. I once lost about $200 in OGAds. It was really a small amount because I didn't send much traffic there at the time.

But still, they could reverse $10k if I made $20k that month.

Saying not to put all your eggs in one basket is fitting again.

These disasters are normal in the CPA industry. They happen every once and then.

That's why I wouldn't focus all my efforts on CPA business.

 

[lucky.sparks]

That's why I wouldn't focus all my efforts on CPA business.

This. Yes, exactly. Or diversify the shit out of it.

 

[BartProxy]

This journey has gone a long way, and very successful. I'm still reading it and learning.

 

[Ross G]

I'm sure this has already been asked somewhere so apologies, but what's your background? I.e. are you self-taught, how many years of programming experience do you have, is there a certain area (i.e. ML) you'd say you specialise in?

I'm interested in learning python as I'm sure it would serve me well, but I feel like there's a certain knowledge/experience threshold I'd need to reach before I can even start to comprehend something like your journey.

Out of interest, knowing what you now know, what would your self-learning approach look like if you had to go back in time and start from scratch? I.e. are there any aspects you wouldn't even bother learning and others that you'd really try to hammer home?

Sorry for all the questions, but your journey looks amazing, and I love how much practicality there is behind your knowledge.

 

[OccultKingdoms]

I'm sure this has already been asked somewhere so apologies, but what's your background? I.e. are you self-taught, how many years of programming experience do you have, is there a certain area (i.e. ML) you'd say you specialise in?

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/where-to-hire-really-good-web-developers.1343205/page-4#post-14520840

I'm interested in learning python as I'm sure it would serve me well, but I feel like there's a certain knowledge/experience threshold I'd need to reach before I can even start to comprehend something like your journey.

One thing is for sure. You need common sense more than anything else.

When you try to learn programming and other things really hard, you might forget about common sense. This is really exhausting in the first few years.

Programming is not the reason anyone makes money. It's just a way to speak to computers. Planning and road maps are what you need.

This field can be really absorbing and many forget their goals during their journeys ending up with empty bank accounts.

Just my experience.

Btw, I knew about 8 developers in person and none of them made a single cent in the first 3 years.

Ok, I did, with css and HTML using CPA (that's marketing actually).

But when I jumped into Python, Node, PHP, React, Vue, Angular, WordPress and e-commerce, I had been gone for years.

I think you should go here: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/this-is-too-much.1419328/#post-15403643

And you will see what it takes to understand machine learning. Then you need to have full-stack knowledge to actually turn your machine learning into an app.

Plus reverse engineering social media networks and websites. We're talking years of learning and trial / error.

 

[saifkhalifa76]

Nice journey
Good luck !

 

[Ross G]

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/w...d-web-developers.1343205/page-4#post-14520840

One thing is for sure. You need common sense more than anything else.

When you try to learn programming and other things really hard, you might forget about common sense. This is really exhausting in the first few years.

Programming is not the reason anyone makes money. It's just a way to speak to computers. Planning and road maps are what you need.

This field can be really absorbing and many forget their goals during their journeys ending up with empty bank accounts.

Just my experience.

Btw, I knew about 8 developers in person and none of them made a single cent in the first 3 years.

Ok, I did, with css and HTML using CPA (that's marketing actually).

But when I jumped into Python, Node, PHP, React, Vue, Angular, WordPress and e-commerce, I had been gone for years.

I think you should go here: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/this-is-too-much.1419328/#post-15403643

And you will see what it takes to understand machine learning. Then you need to have full-stack knowledge to actually turn your machine learning into an app.

Plus reverse engineering social media networks and websites. We're talking years of learning and trial / error.

Thanks a lot reaaski, this is exactly the kind of info I was after! The links are great as well, really helped to ground my expectations.

 

[legendsph]

Hi, are you using proxies and bots to visit your own website and auto-view your youtube videos?

 

[rocknlight]

Very impressive thread ! It gave me a hope to try CPA ,I thought CPA was dead a long back

 

[Ithetona]

In my setup, on average, 1 account earns 20$/month or $0.65/day. so for 20k/month - 1000 accounts.

I'm now warming up 25k Twitter accounts, 10k Instagram accounts, and 9k youtube accounts.

That is massive, a great journey here.

 

[lucky.sparks]

I'm sure this has already been asked somewhere so apologies, but what's your background? I.e. are you self-taught, how many years of programming experience do you have, is there a certain area (i.e. ML) you'd say you specialise in?

@reaaski already linked the answer to this but I don't like my own tone in that thread, probably was a bad day and I hope I've learned to behave a bit more civilized so I will try to answer in a bit different manner. My main specialty is finding solutions to technical problems, at the end, I consider myself a bad programmer but a good problem solver and engineer. I think this is what differs just programmers from engineers - the ability to adapt and find workarounds. My code looks like trash but it works.

I'm interested in learning python as I'm sure it would serve me well, but I feel like there's a certain knowledge/experience threshold I'd need to reach before I can even start to comprehend something like your journey.

I would like to suggest node.js and javascript instead, you will gain the same powers but a more broad spectrum. Javascript is asynchronous and is better suited for automating social media profiles.

Out of interest, knowing what you now know, what would your self-learning approach look like if you had to go back in time and start from scratch? I.e. are there any aspects you wouldn't even bother learning and others that you'd really try to hammer home?

I would suggest learning the absolute basics at home, e.g - how to create a basic website, and then applying for a local offline job in a software development company, find one that makes custom projects. And then rotate such companies every year or stick with one where you feel the most of your knowledge is available. Find out the most skilled guy in that place, make friends and make him your mentor. By doing this you can learn x10 faster than going alone.

That said, to be able to scale on social media you do not even need programming, @IG Professor recently published a guide on how to absolutely kill it on Twitter, you just need a set of tools and some patience to get yourself up to the point you are earning 1k/day easily, this is what where I constantly fail - I like to do shit my way but it usually takes so much of time and in the end - any marketer with the right tools will be x10 more successful than me because of this, they focus on money-making while I focus on making my stuff more advanced so other people interested in engineering would be impressed. This is what I try to learn how to avoid, - how to force myself to think like a marketer.

Sorry for all the questions, but your journey looks amazing, and I love how much practicality there is behind your knowledge.

I'm glad that what I post someone finds useful.

One thing is for sure. You need common sense more than anything else.

This is very well said.

Hi, are you using proxies and bots to visit your own website and auto-view your youtube videos?

No, sorry, that's not even close to what this journey is all about.

Very impressive thread ! It gave me a hope to try CPA ,I thought CPA was dead a long back

I think it will never be able to die out. If you can get traffic, you can sell anything to that traffic. Perhaps you need to become a bit more creative to go for better EPC but other than that - I do not see how marketing, in general, could die out, CPA is all about getting as targeted traffic as you can get and promoting an offer to that traffic.

 

[misuh]

Are you considering selling a full course/ mentorship for anyone interested to do the same thing as you do?

 

[lucky.sparks]

Are you considering selling a full course/ mentorship for anyone interested to do the same thing as you do?

Ah no. Mentoring and coaching is against forums rules and I would get an infraction or even get banned. Making guides and selling ebooks is allowed tho but I would need to charge an enormous price for this to be reasonable to jeopardize my current passive income. Im pretty transparent about what I do, at least I try to be. The only thing that has remained hidden is the current source of traffic and source code of the project itself and tbh - any social network like Twitter or Instagram would get better results than what I use now.

I could someday write a guide on how you can do what I do but just in a different way, using free or paid tools. Probably I could make this a free one as I really hate how shitty guides are overflooded in the market right now but this would take some time and focus that I do not have.

You can get some tips of what I would include in that guide, nothing impressive, this is a well-known setup, people just thinks its more complicated than it is.

- get yourself the cheapest windows RDP, contabo for example, or buy some aws accounts from @Topinfoz
- get a bunch of good proxies, I prefer 4G or residential ones.
- join CPA networks, I suggest @ClickDealer @LosPollos or imonetizeit.
- purchase 100 twitter accounts, 100 Instagram accounts.
- load up jarvee or I would suggest @rootjazz projects.
- setup sources from where to take people to DM/follow, anything with male-dominant follower base would do, OF models, slutty tiktok models, etc
- go with low limits to not churn n burn your accounts, scale horizontally if you want(more accounts is better than aggressive settings)
- add CPA link in your profile, setup a good first message that your accounts sends out to new followers

that's it. you will get $100-200/day faster than you might think.

 

[OccultKingdoms]

The adult niche seems to be more tolerable on social media from what I understand.

This makes me feel like there is a loophole in social media cause a girl is the product. And you can't ban someone for their gender and showing non-nude photos.

It's very easy to warm up an account in this niche. And as you gain a lot of attention, even with frequent bans, you're probably going to fix the problem much quicker than in other niches.

If you go for some pills, sex toys etc, it might not be so easy to do all these things.

There is the niche of fake game hacks and people get banned so easily that some of them spend thousands on accounts monthly just to keep going. To gain traction in this you either need to use strong backlinks for parasite SEO, have an authority domain or a 10 year old youtube account with 500k views.

The above doesn't seem to be the case here and I think some people trying to run CPA journeys should be more aware of that.

Although with all ventures you will need to figure out safe limits, from what you say, it sounds much easier to scale and start in general.

Don't know if I am right cause it's all a conclusion and I am only trying to enter different markets at this moment. Maybe this one will be one of my income sources.

This would save my ass cause I need about $5k monthly and right now I have to work everyday if I want that. And I have to do the kind of work that I am a little bit bored with. I'd rather build an authority in a niche cause I don't have an attitude of a typical child anymore.

I've been working on my attitude for the past year. I noticed it's really hard to stop consuming instead of focusing more. I try to make it inconvenient to overpay for food, impulsive purchases etc. For instance, eating a lot of food while sitting makes me so lazy I just relax and enjoy more food. Can't push the envelope like when I'm fasting.

I think of my money as a funnel.

1. At the top it's about using easy things to gain money.
2. In the middle it's spending and saving - both 30% of my income. Would like to reduce these numbers both to 10 - 15% by increasing income, so more money can go to step 3.
3. At the bottom it's doing the hardest, long term stuff that includes reinvesting, so the whole funnel is running as long as possible.

The issue right now is that at the top I have the simple thing, but it takes too much time - if I want to have $150 in a day, I need to spend my best hours to get there. A ton of deep work wasted.

 

[tosinwilliam]

Amazing journey this has exposed me to lot of new ideas

 

[Wussabi]

Ah no. Mentoring and coaching is against forums rules and I would get an infraction or even get banned. Making guides and selling ebooks is allowed tho but I would need to charge an enormous price for this to be reasonable to jeopardize my current passive income. Im pretty transparent about what I do, at least I try to be. The only thing that has remained hidden is the current source of traffic and source code of the project itself and tbh - any social network like Twitter or Instagram would get better results than what I use now.

I could someday write a guide on how you can do what I do but just in a different way, using free or paid tools. Probably I could make this a free one as I really hate how shitty guides are overflooded in the market right now but this would take some time and focus that I do not have.

You can get some tips of what I would include in that guide, nothing impressive, this is a well-known setup, people just thinks its more complicated than it is.

- get yourself the cheapest windows RDP, contabo for example, or buy some aws accounts from @Topinfoz
- get a bunch of good proxies, I prefer 4G or residential ones.
- join CPA networks, I suggest @ClickDealer @LosPollos or imonetizeit.
- purchase 100 twitter accounts, 100 Instagram accounts.
- load up jarvee or I would suggest @rootjazz projects.
- setup sources from where to take people to DM/follow, anything with male-dominant follower base would do, OF models, slutty tiktok models, etc
- go with low limits to not churn n burn your accounts, scale horizontally if you want(more accounts is better than aggressive settings)
- add CPA link in your profile, setup a good first message that your accounts sends out to new followers

that's it. you will get $100-200/day faster than you might think.

That's great advice

Adult CPA is specifically all about scaling - find out a method that makes you 5 bucks in a day and then think of a way of scaling that method by x10.

Especially in social media, there's enough users to make all of us decent earnings.

I'm currently working with Facebook (manual) and Reddit (semi-autopilot) and I'm doing pretty well, haven't touched Instagram and Twitter yet as their setups are far more expensive than what I run now (they both require 4g mobile proxies and SMS verifications)

Just wondering - do you redirect people straight to your offer or are you using a pre-lander translated for all the top GEOs?