- Oct 6, 2020
- 2,626
- 9,932
No, its not theoretical, I do not use mac for daily work, I use them to automate web.
No, for mobile apps you will need to run emulators anyways.
No, its about Mac M1 GPU.
✈️ Scaling up to $20,000 month using free traffic | ⛔ Passive income on autopilot
- Thread starter lucky.sparks
- Start date
in that their fingerprints are usually very similar or the same, so it would help a lot not to be identified / "fingerprinted". And regarding the gpu of the mac m1, will it help that it is integrated and that another gpu cannot be added?
sorry for my english btw.
- Oct 6, 2020
- 2,626
- 9,932
yes, mac m1 reports same fingerprints, thus using those macs is like using mobile devices - same hardware, same fingerprints
hlo sir, is there any tutorial or guides about this method . I just want to earn $40-50/day . Can you please share some guides, resources?
- Oct 6, 2020
- 2,626
- 9,932
This forum itself is a great resource to learn and grow, stay around, and read money-making and journey threads, you will find something.
If I understood you correctly:
1. All Mac M1 machines share the same fingerprint, because of the same GPU.
1a. There seems to be an assumption that the GPU fingerprint is independent of the video drivers.
1b. Or you assume that every Mac M1 has exactly the same drivers versions.
2. There are social networks that do not take the proper browser fingerprint, they only care about the GPU fingerprint.
I wonder if anyone is doing something like described in 'drawnapart' paper.
- Oct 6, 2020
- 2,626
- 9,932
I do not assume things but only base what I share here on what I have tested myself. Drivers can and will differ but this is the best way to prevent webgl/canvas fingerprinting anyways, to my knowing - there is no other better ways, adding noise and becoming unique in my opinion is worse than blending into the crowd.
So have you tested that the fingerprint remains the same regardless of the state of the OS (drivers, let's say)?
Or have you tested that the machines you rent, which are obviously the same, have the same fingerprint as the machines of consumers in the wild?
I understand you are seeing a low ban rate using Macs, but this observation is not a proof that you truly blend into the consumer crowd.
That's why I used the word "assumption". You definitely blend into the Mac cloud crowd, which can be dangerous in the long run.
BTW, in the article I mentioned, you can find out that there are actually ways to fingerprint different instances of the same GPU.
Or have you tested that the machines you rent, which are obviously the same, have the same fingerprint as the machines of consumers in the wild?
I understand you are seeing a low ban rate using Macs, but this observation is not a proof that you truly blend into the consumer crowd.
That's why I used the word "assumption". You definitely blend into the Mac cloud crowd, which can be dangerous in the long run.
BTW, in the article I mentioned, you can find out that there are actually ways to fingerprint different instances of the same GPU.
mohamedelropy
Junior Member
- Jan 22, 2014
- 122
- 34
good luck bro , i will follow up this trip =D
- Jun 10, 2010
- 2,402
- 1,677
Ever do any TCP and TLS fingerprinting? It’s a fantastic way to fingerprint OS and devices claiming to be who they say they are. Salesforce has done some fantastic work at the TLS layer with JA3 and JA3S to help identify malware, tor networks, and other possible bots, so much so that Cloudflare uses it as part of their bot detection tools. You can easily create unique browser based fingerprints, but you can’t spoof the OS. I wrote some impressive software that proxies the https handshake and creates a device level fingerprint and matches it up to a browser fingerprint and it’s quite comical to see requests from IE on a Linux machine.
prvncqr
Banned - Previously Banned Member
- Jan 3, 2022
- 499
- 303
Did you create the software to spoof the fingerprint or detect the bots?
- Oct 6, 2020
- 2,626
- 9,932
Ive rented those macs from various providers and fingerprints were the same.
No, I do not see any ban rate differences, this is my personal logical assumption and from what I see from sites like browserleaks - fingerprints are not 100% unique and they do not differ from machine to machine. Which is logical. What I haven't tested is - would mac laptop and mac mini fingerprints would be the same if using m1 processors, would love to see results about this, perhaps someone reading this thread have mac m1 laptop and could help out?
What even is mac cloud? These are bare metal machines Im talking about, same as you go into apple store and buy mac mini with m1 processor.
Thats an interesting find, I will check that article over weekend, thank you.
Got it, thank you for a clarification.
I think anybody with a website can do such experiment.
You can get so many info from a web browser, surely you can differentiate mini from a laptop and then
check if canvas/webgl fingerprints are the same or not.
I mean those rented machines, of course they have the same features. Here it is important to distinguish between the fingerprint of the entire browser and the fingerprint of only the GPU. As long as the drivers are the same, the GPU should produce the same results, at least by traditional methods.
Well, I'm rather on the spoofing side
The OP focuses on the GPU fingerprint accessible through the browser.
But you're right, there's even more than the browser fingerprint alone. IP stacks have some characteristics. TLS/HTTP protocols implementations differs in details. Your mouse movements are unique. It is kind of an arms race.
The question is: does it all matter? Like OP notices: fingerprinting is costly, you end up with tons of data. And the AI systems are as good as the models you feed them with. You wouldn't want to do a full fingerprint on every request. You would rather focus on the registration/login process.
charles133
Elite Member
- Mar 13, 2014
- 3,356
- 1,502
Thank you ,your journey its an inspiration for us .All of good luck
- Jun 10, 2010
- 2,402
- 1,677
Fingerprinting for cross site tracking and creating device IDs. Yes, I am scum, but it was for an enterprise client.
I don’t think bot makers would be able to spoof this because it’s a device and client level fingerprint meaning, every windows 10 computer with the same update should produce the same fingerprint, similarly the same version of chrome, Firefox, safari, etc… should also produce the same fingerprint. The fingerprint produced by a browser that I am referring to is a different type of FP talked about here. Most folks here talk about creating unique browser instance fingerprints.
- Oct 6, 2020
- 2,626
- 9,932
I was able to replicate passive windows network fingerprints on a Linux machine, that said I haven't noticed any benefits from this, at least on the small scale Im running my operation on. I created this on a proxy level so I could route my traffic through the emulation of the needed OS network fingerprints anytime I need. About half year ago I described this process in detail here of forums but did not get any feedback so that topic died, as you said - most of people focuses on browser FP spoofing and its kinda right because for most of the times, even that is overkill.