Expanding music streaming to other services

[trickdaddy442]

Distrokid here.

Where have u experienced shadow bans?

I've had shadow bans with Soundrop, United Masters, CD Baby, Tunecore, Amuse, Traxx, Landr and a couple of others. Pretty much everywhere. Distrokid just removes the album rather than shadow banning. I think that is because they are owned by Spotify.

 

[Nikispot]

so which service can gey your monthly listeners up?

When you provide for example 10000 streams for 1 artist/song in 1 month, you can easily do this with 50 accounts, but to make it look real you need 1/2 ratio meaning 5000 listeners for 10000 streams

 

[trickdaddy442]

so which service can gey your monthly listeners up?

When you provide for example 10000 streams for 1 artist/song in 1 month, you can easily do this with 50 accounts, but to make it look real you need 1/2 ratio meaning 5000 listeners for 10000 streams

I have a test of that going right now. I should know early next month if that helps that shadow banning. I was promised 10,000 unique listeners in a month and 10,000 plays.

 

[Nikispot]

I have a test of that going right now. I should know early next month if that helps that shadow banning. I was promised 10,000 unique listeners in a month and 10,000 plays.

what do you mean a test? somebody else providing you this through an online service?

 

[trickdaddy442]

what do you mean a test? somebody else providing you this through an online service?

Exactly. I'll let everyone know if it's worth it or not.

 

[Nikispot]

Exactly. I'll let everyone know if it's worth it or not.

which service if a may ask?

 

[trickdaddy442]

which service if a may ask?

It's a user on Fiverr. I don't want to share too much right now as I don't want this seller to get flooded with orders.

 

[SearchingForFreedom]

Isn't that something you can get from every smm panel, unique listeners (with some max limit like 100k)? When ordering from Fiverr sometimes they just go and order it on a smmpanel.

 

[Nikispot]

Isn't that something you can get from every smm panel, unique listeners (with some max limit like 100k)? When ordering from Fiverr sometimes they just go and order it on a smmpanel.

yea, and i honestly dont see how to sell motnhly listeners witout streams?

they can only be generated when stream are too?

so how can it be sold seperate?

if you have a good supplier he will supply you unique streams so every stream will generate a monthly listener per month

 

[trickdaddy442]

That's correct. It's one monthly listener for each stream.

 

[Nikispot]

That's correct. It's one monthly listener for each stream.

coming from each time a diff user

 

[trickdaddy442]

coming from each time a diff user

Yes.

 

[Nikispot]

So still strange to me how those companies provide those thousands and thousands of different premium accounts. it just seams impossible.

or they generate those monthly listeners via free bot generated accounts..


for me it seems impossible to generate an 1/2 ratio..

if i generate per track 20k premium streams on a month myself with 400 accounts so 400 monthly listeners, its already tricky to get flagged.

an option would be to buy monthly listeners which if find already weird as the supplier of those just ask the artist profile.

meaning they will just stream ur profile and probably only with free accounts cause its about the monthly listeners

if you then have only 1 song on the profile, the (free) streams will be added to your track you already streamed 20k, so to make it look legit you need to buy 20k monthly listeners more to end to 40k streams (20k free / 20k done myself premium) and 20k monthly listeners (bought)

on paper this would look legit cause its a 1/2 ratio but question is would this work

 

[trickdaddy442]

They are probably all free accounts.

 

[vicciflame]

do you all think ordering listens from smm is smart?

 

[SearchingForFreedom]

do you all think ordering listens from smm is smart?

Don't order from a smm to get royalties because you need to wait 3 months to know if they had free or premium accounts. The idea discussed here is to mask your own bot streams by orderiring a lot of unique monthly listeners from a smm panel.

 

[chbicolosira]

The safest and probably the only way right now to make money in streaming fraud it’s to : buy your own prenium acc or kked account , only stream 1 time a song a day with the same account , make only 1 track per artist per distributor account then if you do that if you have 20 artist if 10 get flag you still get the money for the 10 left. This is become harder and harder so as trickydaddy say the best way is to each month make new artist , like if you stream those 30 song in the month 1 , make another 30 song and only stream then so with that you sure that you gonna be always paid , stream the same song more than 2 or more month gonna result in ban or shadow ban for sure

 

[chbicolosira]

And also stay under 100$ per artist , perfect it’s even to stay under 80-75$

 

[SearchingForFreedom]

It feels a bit unfair that Spotify seem more "ban-happy" than ever. And in the same time allows Strange Fruit to upload 31 seconds long rain sounds and have them in their sleep playlists. That is almost like sanctioned botting
https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/features/spotify-sleep-music-playlists-lady-gaga-1223911/

 

[Nikispot]

It feels a bit unfair that Spotify seem more "ban-happy" than ever. And in the same time allows Strange Fruit to upload 31 seconds long rain sounds and have them in their sleep playlists. That is almost like sanctioned botting
https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/features/spotify-sleep-music-playlists-lady-gaga-1223911/

Crazy, then check this regarding Warner & Spotify

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/1/21203324/spotify-warner-agree-expanded-global-licensing-deal