I will not be vaccinated!

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I understand your point of view here actually. Not that I approve of it, but I understand. But you're making a classic toxic assumption here. Everyone who is not on your side, is somehow an idiot who doesn't see the reality for it's face value. You're putting all of us who disagree with you in a category "sheep" or even worse you're comparing us with Nazis. Then you're sitting in front of your screen thinking how unfair it is that no one is listening to you and telling you you're stupid. Wonder why. Don't treat us who believe

Do you know why I trust the vaccines? Because scientists say so. Now, why do I trust scientists? There is this beautiful thing in science called "peer review". This means that anyone with proper knowledge can backcheck and reproduce the results. So to make a peer reviewed and public papers fake, you need to control a large majority, if not all of the scientists and doctors in the world. This adds up to 10s of thousands of people. Doctors, researchers, vaccine testers. These are all people. People with hearts, people with families, people with basic sense of morality.

Your theory is that all of them know of this horrible secret that vaccines make people sick and are threating the very existence of human race. And NO ONE is speaking up? This is the fundamental thing that separates conspiracy theorists like yourself from normal people - you fail to understand the fundamental human nature. Believe it or not, when you put people in a spot like this, a lot of them will do the right thing.

However, no one has really done that. The hacks that have come out with "real info" have proven to have a financial agenda (like that Pfizer guy) and that their data just does not hold up. if there even is any data. That's another beautiful thing about science that conspirace theorists fail to understand quite simple: 1+1=2. Certainly things we are talking about are way more complex and multi-faceted. But math plays a very big part in their development. But even genome sequencing calculation for vaccine development and genome quality assessment, which is super important to make sure the new batches of mRNA vaccines are high quality.

You can say whatever, but if you have one apple and you get one more, you have two apples. Imagine someone would argue with you about that. That it's three apples, not two. Now you have a glimpse of what people who understand (NOT "believe". UNDERSTAND) science feel like.

Using Hitler and Nazis as an excuse just shows lack of knowledge once again. Do you really think that millions of people accepted widespread murder? Helping jews could lead to death sentence by shooting, you going to concentration camps even if you were the purest german ever and even speaking out could carry a harsh punishment.

You fail to provide evidence. You fail to provide reason. You compare people who do not agree with you with Nazis. You're telling as 2 apples = 3 apples with no evidence and we should "just believe that". Then you're expecting people not to make fun of you.
CLAP CLAP CLAP!!
Perfect, one of the best and complete reply for a random conspiracy/novax/nobrain people!
Congratulation!
 
Perfectly said
Actually no. It's wrong.

Reading that post i sense, the expectation how vaccines work is wrong in some heads still, which is a frequent issue. Vaccines don't offer 100% protection, that much is true, better ones have 90%+ efficacy though. So yes, vaccinated people can get infected too, but with a lot less probability and if they do, they won't develop serious symptoms.
A smaller portion of people no matter what, simply don't develop antibodies neither after recovering after the infection, nor after getting vaccinated. These people can get infected and infected again, but this is a small minority and it's a numbers game. The goal is to keep the reproduction rate of the virus below 1, meaning 1 infected infects less than 1 person. By vaccinating people with 90% efficacy vaccines, this is a very realistic goal, if enough people takes the vaccine.

People who got their shots and developed the needed protection are much less likely to get the virus and it's extremely rare for them to develop serious symptoms, which require hospitalization. That's what the efficacy of the vaccines mean. Without the vaccine 100 people out of 100 have the chance to get infected and develop symptoms, which may lead to hospitalization. If that 100 people get a vaccine with 90% efficacy, it means, that out of 100 only 10 will have the potential to get infected and if they do, they will have mild symptoms. This is the correct interpretation how vaccines work and this is how they actually work.

You can debate, that vaccines are not safe and might have long-term effects we don't know yet, but not their efficacy against the imminent issue at hand.

I already see them working in real life, where i live. Numbers are down, most restrictions are gone (for the vaccinated or recovered).

The virus is here to stay, restrictions will end only if enough people is vaccinated to be able to keep the virus at bay. It's that simple. There's no other solution at the moment.
 
Actually no. It's wrong.

Reading that post i sense, the expectation how vaccines work is wrong in some heads still, which is a frequent issue. Vaccines don't offer 100% protection, that much is true, better ones have 90%+ efficacy though. So yes, vaccinated people can get infected too, but with a lot less probability and if they do, they won't develop serious symptoms.
A smaller portion of people no matter what, simply don't develop antibodies neither after recovering after the infection, nor after getting vaccinated. These people can get infected and infected again, but this is a small minority and it's a numbers game. The goal is to keep the reproduction rate of the virus below 1, meaning 1 infected infects less than 1 person. By vaccinating people with 90% efficacy vaccines, this is a very realistic goal, if enough people takes the vaccine.

People who got their shots and developed the needed protection are much less likely to get the virus and it's extremely rare for them to develop serious symptoms, which require hospitalization. That's what the efficacy of the vaccines mean. Without the vaccine 100 people out of 100 have the chance to get infected and develop symptoms, which may lead to hospitalization. If that 100 people get a vaccine with 90% efficacy, it means, that out of 100 only 10 will have the potential to get infected and if they do, they will have mild symptoms. This is the correct interpretation how vaccines work and this is how they actually work.

You can debate, that vaccines are not safe and might have long-term effects we don't know yet, but not their efficacy against the imminent issue at hand.

I already see them working in real life, where i live. Numbers are down, most restrictions are gone (for the vaccinated or recovered).

The virus is here to stay, restrictions will end only if enough people is vaccinated to be able to keep the virus at bay. It's that simple. There's no other solution at the moment.
I haven't done much research about the efficiency. The only thing that deters from taking it are the side effects that have been happening. Not to mention the long term ones that are yet unknown.
Am actually pro-vax, have taken rabies (5 shots) and tetanus in the past two years. But I don't wanna take the covid one.
 
I understand your point of view here actually. Not that I approve of it, but I understand. But you're making a classic toxic assumption here. Everyone who is not on your side, is somehow an idiot who doesn't see the reality for it's face value. You're putting all of us who disagree with you in a category "sheep" or even worse you're comparing us with Nazis. Then you're sitting in front of your screen thinking how unfair it is that no one is listening to you and telling you you're stupid. Wonder why. Don't treat us who believe

Do you know why I trust the vaccines? Because scientists say so. Now, why do I trust scientists? There is this beautiful thing in science called "peer review". This means that anyone with proper knowledge can backcheck and reproduce the results. So to make a peer reviewed and public papers fake, you need to control a large majority, if not all of the scientists and doctors in the world. This adds up to 10s of thousands of people. Doctors, researchers, vaccine testers. These are all people. People with hearts, people with families, people with basic sense of morality.

Your theory is that all of them know of this horrible secret that vaccines make people sick and are threating the very existence of human race. And NO ONE is speaking up? This is the fundamental thing that separates conspiracy theorists like yourself from normal people - you fail to understand the fundamental human nature. Believe it or not, when you put people in a spot like this, a lot of them will do the right thing.

However, no one has really done that. The hacks that have come out with "real info" have proven to have a financial agenda (like that Pfizer guy) and that their data just does not hold up. if there even is any data. That's another beautiful thing about science that conspirace theorists fail to understand quite simple: 1+1=2. Certainly things we are talking about are way more complex and multi-faceted. But math plays a very big part in their development. But even genome sequencing calculation for vaccine development and genome quality assessment, which is super important to make sure the new batches of mRNA vaccines are high quality.

You can say whatever, but if you have one apple and you get one more, you have two apples. Imagine someone would argue with you about that. That it's three apples, not two. Now you have a glimpse of what people who understand (NOT "believe". UNDERSTAND) science feel like.

Using Hitler and Nazis as an excuse just shows lack of knowledge once again. Do you really think that millions of people accepted widespread murder? Helping jews could lead to death sentence by shooting, you going to concentration camps even if you were the purest german ever and even speaking out could carry a harsh punishment.

You fail to provide evidence. You fail to provide reason. You compare people who do not agree with you with Nazis. You're telling as 2 apples = 3 apples with no evidence and we should "just believe that". Then you're expecting people not to make fun of you.
I think this deserves another quote. It's nice to read someone's consolidated thoughts put in words on screen with simple arguments. I like order. Chaos as well.
 
I haven't done much research about the efficiency. The only thing that deters from taking it are the side effects that have been happening. Not to mention the long term ones that are yet unknown.
Am actually pro-vax, have taken rabies (5 shots) and tetanus in the past two years. But I don't wanna take the covid one.
Side effects are happening with any and every vaccine, even with those, which are in use since decades. These side effects are not more common with covid19 vaccines. Obviously when hundreds of millions of people get vaccinated in a matter of months, you'll hear about a couple of occurences of more serious side effects, but it's still not a big number compared to the amount of people vaccinated or compared to the amount of people, who would have died without the vaccine. I don't think, the short-term side effects should be a concern or if they're a concern, next time when you take any other vaccine, just remember that none of those are completely risk-free either in that regard.

I just looked these up quick: 1 out of 10,000 people gets anaphylactic shock after taking the rabies vaccine, this is besides the more common side effects like headache, nausea, vomiting. The tetanus vaccine can cause these latter milder symptoms too plus high fever and more serious symptoms such as seizures, fainting or non-stop crying, wtf?!

At the moment there are 4 different technologies they use to develop the covid19 vaccines. Where i live 3 of those vaccine types are available, the 4th type is very new, so that's not an option just yet. If you don't want to take the new mRNA vaccines, you can go with the vector ones, where there's some experience already or you can go with the vaccines, which use the old method of inactivated virus cells just like the common flu vaccines. There's a selection and there are vaccines among those, which were developed using the same technology, what is used since decades to produce other vaccines.

The concern about the long-term effects is valid, but we don't have the luxury to just sit around and wait for a decade or two until the results are in. Doing nothing can't be a solution, the virus isn't going anywhere on its own. Waves will come after each other, people will die or have long-lasting health issues, the economy will get shut down periodically for months over and over again. When the waves happen, the healthcare system gets overwhelmed, due to that non-covid patients don't receive proper care, so some of those will eventually die too. This is not a way to live.

Even though i recovered from the infection, i still took the vaccine, because it boosts the existing antibody levels by multiple times, so you develop a stronger protection. This is what docs recommend too, even if you recovered, it's advised to take the vaccine. In that case one shot can be enough, because it acts like a booster, which is normally the second jab, if you weren't infected before.

It's not a too complicated choice after all. You just need to decide whether the pros of vaccination outweigh the cons or not. I tend to trust science and the millions who took an oath to protect our lives, for me personally the pros outweigh the cons. For you i guess the cons outweigh the pros.
 
Side effects are happening with any and every vaccine, even with those, which are in use since decades. These side effects are not more common with covid19 vaccines. Obviously when hundreds of millions of people get vaccinated in a matter of months, you'll hear about a couple of occurences of more serious side effects, but it's still not a big number compared to the amount of people vaccinated or compared to the amount of people, who would have died without the vaccine. I don't think, the short-term side effects should be a concern or if they're a concern, next time when you take any other vaccine, just remember that none of those are completely risk-free either in that regard.

I just looked these up quick: 1 out of 10,000 people gets anaphylactic shock after taking the rabies vaccine, this is besides the more common side effects like headache, nausea, vomiting. The tetanus vaccine can cause these latter milder symptoms too plus high fever and more serious symptoms such as seizures, fainting or non-stop crying, wtf?!

At the moment there are 4 different technologies they use to develop the covid19 vaccines. Where i live 3 of those vaccine types are available, the 4th type is very new, so that's not an option just yet. If you don't want to take the new mRNA vaccines, you can go with the vector ones, where there's some experience already or you can go with the vaccines, which use the old method of inactivated virus cells just like the common flu vaccines. There's a selection and there are vaccines among those, which were developed using the same technology, what is used since decades to produce other vaccines.

The concern about the long-term effects is valid, but we don't have the luxury to just sit around and wait for a decade or two until the results are in. Doing nothing can't be a solution, the virus isn't going anywhere on its own. Waves will come after each other, people will die or have long-lasting health issues, the economy will get shut down periodically for months over and over again. When the waves happen, the healthcare system gets overwhelmed, due to that non-covid patients don't receive proper care, so some of those will eventually die too. This is not a way to live.

Even though i recovered from the infection, i still took the vaccine, because it boosts the existing antibody levels by multiple times, so you develop a stronger protection. This is what docs recommend too, even if you recovered, it's advised to take the vaccine. In that case one shot can be enough, because it acts like a booster, which is normally the second jab, if you weren't infected before.

It's not a too complicated choice after all. You just need to decide whether the pros of vaccination outweigh the cons or not. I tend to trust science and the millions who took an oath to protect our lives, for me personally the pros outweigh the cons. For you i guess the cons outweigh the pros.
Thanks so much for the info. Non stop crying lol
But yea for me am more afraid of the Vax than covid. Am young and healthy. Don't wanna risk it. you see quite a few cases of heart problems happening with the young ones.
Plus the concerns by doctors and scientists, like this one I just saw -
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gSA5SxEknyeT/
Have u seen it? I wish this is not true. I hope they later find out that the above discoveries were false.

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It's not a too complicated choice after all. You just need to decide whether the pros of vaccination outweigh the cons or not. I tend to trust science and the millions who took an oath to protect our lives, for me personally the pros outweigh the cons. For you i guess the cons outweigh the pros.

"I tend to trust science and the millions who took an oath to protect our lives," sadley if they work for big pharma or for organizations under the goverment well ....
they won't protect you nor care about you . they only care about their salary and reputation and promotion... today age mantra is simple " Money Money Money " so i think it's naive to think otherwise ? proof ? look at what the FDA and CDC did they even censorship the inventor of the the technology .. the millions who took an oath to protect us Had a busy time cooking up this virus.
 
"I tend to trust science and the millions who took an oath to protect our lives," sadley if they work for big pharma or for organizations under the goverment well ....
they won't protect you nor care about you . they only care about their salary and reputation and promotion... today age mantra is simple " Money Money Money " so i think it's naive to think otherwise ? proof ? look at what the FDA and CDC did they even censorship the inventor of the the technology .. the millions who took an oath to protect us Had a busy time cooking up this virus.
We are clearly on a different page.

The thing is that at this point it doesn't matter, who cooked up what, whether the virus was let out intentionally or accidentally or if it was transferred from animals. This is not important regarding the issue at hand. The important thing is that the virus is out and there's a solution developed by scientists, what we can take.

With saying things what you just said, apart from that it cannot be further from the truth, you're questioning the integrity of millions of doctors, who you will rely upon one day, when your life needs saving. Maybe tomorrow after a car accident.

How some people can be this far away detached from reality is beyond me.
 
I understand your point of view here actually. Not that I approve of it, but I understand. But you're making a classic toxic assumption here. Everyone who is not on your side, is somehow an idiot who doesn't see the reality for it's face value. You're putting all of us who disagree with you in a category "sheep" or even worse you're comparing us with Nazis. Then you're sitting in front of your screen thinking how unfair it is that no one is listening to you and telling you you're stupid. Wonder why. Don't treat us who believe

Do you know why I trust the vaccines? Because scientists say so. Now, why do I trust scientists? There is this beautiful thing in science called "peer review". This means that anyone with proper knowledge can backcheck and reproduce the results. So to make a peer reviewed and public papers fake, you need to control a large majority, if not all of the scientists and doctors in the world. This adds up to 10s of thousands of people. Doctors, researchers, vaccine testers. These are all people. People with hearts, people with families, people with basic sense of morality.

Your theory is that all of them know of this horrible secret that vaccines make people sick and are threating the very existence of human race. And NO ONE is speaking up? This is the fundamental thing that separates conspiracy theorists like yourself from normal people - you fail to understand the fundamental human nature. Believe it or not, when you put people in a spot like this, a lot of them will do the right thing.

However, no one has really done that. The hacks that have come out with "real info" have proven to have a financial agenda (like that Pfizer guy) and that their data just does not hold up. if there even is any data. That's another beautiful thing about science that conspirace theorists fail to understand quite simple: 1+1=2. Certainly things we are talking about are way more complex and multi-faceted. But math plays a very big part in their development. But even genome sequencing calculation for vaccine development and genome quality assessment, which is super important to make sure the new batches of mRNA vaccines are high quality.

You can say whatever, but if you have one apple and you get one more, you have two apples. Imagine someone would argue with you about that. That it's three apples, not two. Now you have a glimpse of what people who understand (NOT "believe". UNDERSTAND) science feel like.

Using Hitler and Nazis as an excuse just shows lack of knowledge once again. Do you really think that millions of people accepted widespread murder? Helping jews could lead to death sentence by shooting, you going to concentration camps even if you were the purest german ever and even speaking out could carry a harsh punishment.

You fail to provide evidence. You fail to provide reason. You compare people who do not agree with you with Nazis. You're telling as 2 apples = 3 apples with no evidence and we should "just believe that". Then you're expecting people not to make fun of you.

You have a lot of points.

But, as per my response to another user above (that he dismissed completely) scientists are speaking up, because they have peer reviewed it.

And the scientist I am referring to is the ex-ceo of pfizer
 
We are clearly on a different page.

The thing is that at this point it doesn't matter, who cooked up what, whether the virus was let out intentionally or accidentally or if it was transferred from animals. This is not important regarding the issue at hand. The important thing is that the virus is out and there's a solution developed by scientists, what we can take.

With saying things what you just said, apart from that it cannot be further from the truth, you're questioning the integrity of millions of doctors, who you will rely upon one day, when your life needs saving. Maybe tomorrow after a car accident.

How some people can be this far away detached from reality is beyond me.
again , I'm not questioning the integrity of all doctors or scientists that would be beyond stupid . we have brave people out there who let out the truth way earlier than the media or even FDA or CDC or any "doctor" who belong to any kind of organizations .. what I'm saying is that believing everything that is coming from these organizations just because the narrative that been said is coming out of a specialist "doctor or scientist" doesn't necessarily make it right . it's just stupid to put absolute trust on individuals who have their careers depend on such organizations.

Fact is People Died because of the vaccine and the public is less informed because these doctors and scientists have careers on the line .and they don't want to risk it. so it defy all kind of reason for someone to keep telling me "I Trust Science"
Your so called doctors or scientist killed people in the name of science because they rushed this crap and that is A FACT .

here's another guy who back up the inventor of the mRNA technology and explains exactly why the vaccine poses a risks.

P.S. done with thread literally tired lol see all of you after 2+ years .
 
I learned from reliable sources that vaccines make you attract metals.

Before you quote me, this is a must to understand: Anyone who disagrees with me is a liar.
 
I'll wait for everyone to be vaccinated first.. then this way virus wont spread anymore.. i remain then safe without a vaccination :P
 
This is so funny. So much determination. If only you can direct these efforts to the right things
 
You have a lot of points.

But, as per my response to another user above (that he dismissed completely) scientists are speaking up, because they have peer reviewed it.

And the scientist I am referring to is the ex-ceo of pfizer
I believe his claims (at least ones about pregrancy) was debunked pretty hard, because he had no hard data. If you have other sources, I am open for something like that.

Let me also clarify something here for anyone who is reading this thread and my answers in particular - I am fully aware that we do not know the dangers of the vaccine in long term. Perhaps I should have been more open about that. Current data shows that it's less dangerous than COVID, tho.

But I utterly refuse to believe that there is some sort of conspiracy. And I think this is deductable with logic with one simple question. Who benefits of this and how?

Let's consider 2 possible scenarios:

1. Pharma companies want to make money.
Yeah, this one is easy to believe because we all know that pharma companies are pretty evil. But COVID vaccine represents a fraction of the revenue for big pharma companies. Current predictions of COVID mutation rate is that it will be much slower than flu for example, not requiring seasonal vaccines. Even considering that a lot more people will need it, it still represents a pretty small amount of money considering how much funds is needed to pay everyone to be quiet.

2. Elite wants us to get sick to make more money and gain power
All they want is money and power. So this makes no sense for that. The "common" people are the source of power to the elite. How are they gonna make money if we are all ill? We own the power, but they own us. It's us who build their cities, it's us who make their roads and fight their wars. It's us who spend our money on their products, fattening their bank accounts. If we are too sick to work or wage war, how are they going to make money?

I think one of the most credible proofs that vaccine has no secret, undisclosed side effects is that countries are giving shots to their militaries. If they knew that this was toxic, they would basically willfully destroy or at least severaly hinder their capability to defend themselves (and make money with war).

This is a thought process I go through when I read something that seems like a conspiracy theory.

I am open to scientific research about possible dangers. But I don't see any endgame here for anyone. Everyone loses. I have fairly low faith in people at times, but I can sure as hell say that if things like infertility are ever revealed to be true (and that it was known), it will be a basis to a revolution. Infertility means extinction of human race. What would you do if you found this out? What would people do if they found out that someone doomed human race to extinction? Survival and reproduction are built-in into our brains as ultimate goals of life. People will go insane and burn the world to the ground. If some elitists who can control media, goverments and scientific community so well would want to end the world, they would use nukes.

Same really applies to other conspiracies thrown out in this chat. There is no point, no logic. Keeping Africa poor is a conspiracy that makes sense. Purposeful orchestration of opioid crisis in US makes sense. Waging war on terror and drugs makes a lot of financial sense. But this just doesn't.

Something that I also really want to point out, is that people who question the vaccine is one thing, but spreading conspiracy theories is another. Often this information, such as any possible health claims is immediately buried under the sheer volume of crazy bullshit, like that covid is fake overall or 5g is doing something and all this stuff that is spreading like wildfire at the moment.
 
I believe his claims (at least ones about pregrancy) was debunked pretty hard, because he had no hard data. If you have other sources, I am open for something like that.

Let me also clarify something here for anyone who is reading this thread and my answers in particular - I am fully aware that we do not know the dangers of the vaccine in long term. Perhaps I should have been more open about that. Current data shows that it's less dangerous than COVID, tho.

But I utterly refuse to believe that there is some sort of conspiracy. And I think this is deductable with logic with one simple question. Who benefits of this and how?

Let's consider 2 possible scenarios:

1. Pharma companies want to make money.
Yeah, this one is easy to believe because we all know that pharma companies are pretty evil. But COVID vaccine represents a fraction of the revenue for big pharma companies. Current predictions of COVID mutation rate is that it will be much slower than flu for example, not requiring seasonal vaccines. Even considering that a lot more people will need it, it still represents a pretty small amount of money considering how much funds is needed to pay everyone to be quiet.

2. Elite wants us to get sick to make more money and gain power
All they want is money and power. So this makes no sense for that. The "common" people are the source of power to the elite. How are they gonna make money if we are all ill? We own the power, but they own us. It's us who build their cities, it's us who make their roads and fight their wars. It's us who spend our money on their products, fattening their bank accounts. If we are too sick to work or wage war, how are they going to make money?

I think one of the most credible proofs that vaccine has no secret, undisclosed side effects is that countries are giving shots to their militaries. If they knew that this was toxic, they would basically willfully destroy or at least severaly hinder their capability to defend themselves (and make money with war).

This is a thought process I go through when I read something that seems like a conspiracy theory.

I am open to scientific research about possible dangers. But I don't see any endgame here for anyone. Everyone loses. I have fairly low faith in people at times, but I can sure as hell say that if things like infertility are ever revealed to be true (and that it was known), it will be a basis to a revolution. Infertility means extinction of human race. What would you do if you found this out? What would people do if they found out that someone doomed human race to extinction? Survival and reproduction are built-in into our brains as ultimate goals of life. People will go insane and burn the world to the ground. If some elitists who can control media, goverments and scientific community so well would want to end the world, they would use nukes.

Same really applies to other conspiracies thrown out in this chat. There is no point, no logic. Keeping Africa poor is a conspiracy that makes sense. Purposeful orchestration of opioid crisis in US makes sense. Waging war on terror and drugs makes a lot of financial sense. But this just doesn't.

Something that I also really want to point out, is that people who question the vaccine is one thing, but spreading conspiracy theories is another. Often this information, such as any possible health claims is immediately buried under the sheer volume of crazy bullshit, like that covid is fake overall or 5g is doing something and all this stuff that is spreading like wildfire at the moment.
Man i can't deny I got triggered by this . saying i refuse that there's a conspiracy OK challenge accepted. Here it's out in the open for everyone to see .
Meet The Master Mind :Klaus Schwab
His Book COVID-19: The Great Reset in amazon look it up and read it & read his other books 4th industrial revolution... , hell read the reviews ....
his youtube channel : https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldEconomicForum
(check the comments they are funny lel)
pretty much this guys summarize it all ...

"You will own nothing be Happy " GUYS......

how the pandemic will help in this ? one thing ..... vaccine passport .. how ?


Klaus Schwab predicteded the pandemic now he predicts a new kind of pandemic Cyber attacks ..

redistribute $120Trillion dollars. The entire wealth of the worlds middle class and poor combined several times over.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Great-Reset-BlackRock-Is-Fueling-A-120-Trillion-Transformation-On-Wall-St.html
I'm crazy for believing this and the Elite Globalists are crazy for doing this but you guys are even more crazier for believing none of this .
Enjoy what is left of your freedoms .........
 
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