Bye bye TikTok

Agreed. What is with all this banning anyways? If you start curtailing freedom of expression and speech in social media platforms, then I guess we should call for the ban of many other platforms. I find it very contradicting of the U.S. to accuse other countries of propaganda but they do the same thing to their own people. You block out other non-US based news, and only permit US news stations, then someone from outside of the US would look at that and think, America is just brainwashed by propaganda US news. The same way you look at North Korea and think they are brainwashed because they are only allowed to have North Korean news fed to them and ban everything else. Well of course, you'd expect North Korea to have their own news fed to them just as America likes to have their own news fed to them and block out Russia Today (RT news) and call them propaganda/brainwashed media.
Well the laws once made never stood firm. Fallen this time/year? Anyway, I got your point. And fighting hate with hate(disavowing the "freedom of speech" thing) seems like a childish move. I am not supporting neither of the parties either
 
Nah, even if it got banned Tik tok will still live.
1. There are many countries other than usa
2. You can always use vpn
 
It died one time already with Vine (never understood why it got killed actually). same old concept we will see another one in a year, this time from an european country probably.
 
Agreed. What is with all this banning anyways? If you start curtailing freedom of expression and speech in social media platforms, then I guess we should call for the ban of many other platforms. I find it very contradicting of the U.S. to accuse other countries of propaganda but they do the same thing to their own people. You block out other non-US based news, and only permit US news stations, then someone from outside of the US would look at that and think, America is just brainwashed by propaganda US news. The same way you look at North Korea and think they are brainwashed because they are only allowed to have North Korean news fed to them and ban everything else. Well of course, you'd expect North Korea to have their own news fed to them just as America likes to have their own news fed to them and block out Russia Today (RT news) and call them propaganda/brainwashed media.

Social Media platforms have been censoring freedom of speech on a corporate level for a while now. And they can because they are private companies, even if they are publicly traded. Until laws prohibit them from shutting down people they don't like they will continue to do so.

As to Americans being brainwashed by propaganda news, that's an entirely different subject than whether or not social media sites are censoring freedom of speech. Countries like Russia & North Korea have state-run media, as does China, Pakistan, and lots of other countries. America has freedom of the press, which allows the news organizations to cover whatever they want, whenever they want. I do believe brainwashing takes place, but it's not "state sponsored" or "nationalized". In fact, in America it's the other way around. Here the Media sponsors, and covers for, the political party that they are trying to help gain or keep power. For instance, OAN is in the tank for the Republican party, Fox News has moved to the middle a lot but still leans Republican. All other major news organizations in the country in both TV and print are in the tank for the Democrat party. Which way those organizations "lean" is usually traced back to their owners. But none of it is "state run" and all censorship and brainwashing is done on a corporate level. And they are very successful at it, I might add.

But saying it's Chinese spying IS US propaganda. How are the Chinese spying on Americans via TikTok? It's just a social media platform AFAIK that is not made by the Chinese government. Facebook is doing the exact same thing by spying on Americans, too and it has been proven in courts many times with Federal hearings. So I'm not sure why you think it's ok to ban TikTok because it's Chinese but not ban Facebook and Google for spying on you because it's American.

Companies "spying" for the sake of marketing is entirely different than what Tik Tok is being accused of doing. The US believes they have credible evidence to suggest that the Chinese government is using Tik Tok to spy, for intelligence gathering and to what end, who knows. It's not a TRUMP thing since both Democrats and Republicans launched an investigation in November:

"....in early November, the United States government opened an investigation into the app to determine it posed a national security threat due to how “the company stores the personal data of its users and whether it is censoring politically sensitive content.” Both Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) prompted the investigation." - The Daily Wire

The government felt the same way about Huawei. Look, the communist Chinese government likes to keep their grubby hands in every Chinese industry and their actions on a global scale lead the US intelligence communities to believe their intentions are hostile towards US interests. Like it or not, Trump didn't come up with this Tik Tok ban on his own. The CIA is feeding him information and evidence to support that information, and he is simply acting on that intelligence to protect American interests.
 
Social Media platforms have been censoring freedom of speech on a corporate level for a while now. And they can because they are private companies, even if they are publicly traded. Until laws prohibit them from shutting down people they don't like they will continue to do so.

As to Americans being brainwashed by propaganda news, that's an entirely different subject than whether or not social media sites are censoring freedom of speech. Countries like Russia & North Korea have state-run media, as does China, Pakistan, and lots of other countries. America has freedom of the press, which allows the news organizations to cover whatever they want, whenever they want. I do believe brainwashing takes place, but it's not "state sponsored" or "nationalized". In fact, in America it's the other way around. Here the Media sponsors, and covers for, the political party that they are trying to help gain or keep power. For instance, OAN is in the tank for the Republican party, Fox News has moved to the middle a lot but still leans Republican. All other major news organizations in the country in both TV and print are in the tank for the Democrat party. Which way those organizations "lean" is usually traced back to their owners. But none of it is "state run" and all censorship and brainwashing is done on a corporate level. And they are very successful at it, I might add.



Companies "spying" for the sake of marketing is entirely different than what Tik Tok is being accused of doing. The US believes they have credible evidence to suggest that the Chinese government is using Tik Tok to spy, for intelligence gathering and to what end, who knows. It's not a TRUMP thing since both Democrats and Republicans launched an investigation in November:

"....in early November, the United States government opened an investigation into the app to determine it posed a national security threat due to how “the company stores the personal data of its users and whether it is censoring politically sensitive content.” Both Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) prompted the investigation." - The Daily Wire

The government felt the same way about Huawei. Look, the communist Chinese government likes to keep their grubby hands in every Chinese industry and their actions on a global scale lead the US intelligence communities to believe their intentions are hostile towards US interests. Like it or not, Trump didn't come up with this Tik Tok ban on his own. The CIA is feeding him information and evidence to support that information, and he is simply acting on that intelligence to protect American interests.


Tiktok is spying s*it. It's just a very big competitor for FB and other US companies and they don't have any chance doing healthy and normal competition against it.

So if they ban it FB will have a chance to take it's place. You can see how IG Reels got launched in India few days after tiktok got banned. Is that simple
 
Google is banned in China
Facebook is banned in China
Twitter is banned in China
YouTube is banned in China
Instagram is banned in China

And you want Us to entertain Tiktok?
 
It's a Chinese site. I know trump says he is banning it and tik tok are saying they are going no where. However, maybe it will end in a court room but if it is been used by the Chinese as a way to collect data, then I am pretty sure it's gonna be blocked and then do what the Chinese do, use a Vpn to bypass government sensors websites.
 
Man I hope insta is on the ban list too. You know they have many child models and stuff like that. But then, we IM'ers gonna fail big time and it's owned by Fb(data theft or not, it is based on US)
And I hope all of your money making methods are on ban list.
I hate negatice people who are happy when someone else business are falling apart
 
And I hope all of your money making methods are on ban list.
I hate negatice people who are happy when someone else business are falling apart
Dude no. You got me wrong. Its kinda metaphor or indirect meaning thingy. Try reading that again.
 
Tiktok is spying s*it. It's just a very big competitor for FB and other US companies and they don't have any chance doing healthy and normal competition against it.

So if they ban it FB will have a chance to take it's place. You can see how IG Reels got launched in India few days after tiktok got banned. Is that simple


Absolute nonsense for 2 reasons:

  • Facebook doesn't need to "take anyone's place", they are the pioneer in the social media space, they are the "big dog" that Tik Tok is trying to compete with not the other way around. Where have you been? Tik Tok is the newcomer here. "don't have any chance doing healthy and normal competition against it" my @Ss. Facebook has a net worth of 527 billion dollars, Tik Tok (bytedance) is worth 75 billion. VERY easy to look this up on google.

  • The conservative-controlled US federal government is not trying to do any favors for Facebook, a company that doesn't like Trump and censors his posts whenever it suits them. And democrats aren't particularly fond of Facebook either so just stop it.
 
Yeah all these pre-teens are gonna be pissed off with this. But I'm sure Microsoft will buy it and it'll be back
 
man this pedophile crap has been going on since yahoo chat ! Banning and closing it does not help ! They closed yahoo messenger chat rooms cuz of that shit . This is clearly not a good solution . However saying that Im all in to ban tiktok as its owned by china !


btw I was earning good money on yahoo messenger chat rooms but idiots closed it down cuz of few sick people. And then facebook came on and litterally copied all the ideas of yahoo! Whatever yahoo did back in 2002 , facebook is doing it now!

Yahoo webchat - yahoo group chat rooms- yahoo voice chat - yahoo profiles (socialising) - yahoo pvt chat - yahoo games etc....
beside of the marketing power of tiktok , there are facts that not evryone knows about for example that it's is the number one grassland for pedophil people who encourage underaged to post sexual content and may also present them selves ( pedophils ) as a teenage and organize a meetup with those kids imagine the end.
so i am with the ban of tiktok all over not only in US
 
Absolute nonsense for 2 reasons:

  • Facebook doesn't need to "take anyone's place", they are the pioneer in the social media space, they are the "big dog" that Tik Tok is trying to compete with not the other way around. Where have you been? Tik Tok is the newcomer here. "don't have any chance doing healthy and normal competition against it" my @Ss. Facebook has a net worth of 527 billion dollars, Tik Tok (bytedance) is worth 75 billion. VERY easy to look this up on google.

  • The conservative-controlled US federal government is not trying to do any favors for Facebook, a company that doesn't like Trump and censors his posts whenever it suits them. And democrats aren't particularly fond of Facebook either so just stop it.


The "Big dog" is trying to take the place of tiktok right now and you can check the Instagram reels which is 99% a tiktok copy.

It got launched with good success in india also 1-3 days after tiktok got banned and It will do the same in USA if tiktok gets banned. Not sure if trump or other powerful people will fk tiktok for instagram but guess what Reels will go big if tiktok gets banned and it will die if tiktok won't just like Facebook Lasso died because tiktok was too strong.

Not sure if you know what your talking about or if you are just a facebook fan.
 
but the US actually donate the most money....they are the most generous people despite what people think. Compared to other countries,
the US, Australia, Canada, and a few countries in Europe are the highest donors. From countries in Asia, I barely get any donations even though they account for maybe 60% of my followers lol. Thank you Americans for being so generous.
The US population is 328 mil so it's normal to be more donations:)
 
Trump's America shows it weakness again. Huawai, TikTok who is next? I don't like both USA and China cuz the most brainwashed countries ever, but in this battle I support China.
 
The "Big dog" is trying to take the place of tiktok right now and you can check the Instagram reels which is 99% a tiktok copy.

Nope, not trying to take the place of, trying to incorporate it's functionality. Big difference. I know Tik Tok will be copied heavily if they get banned since all the US users will want to run to the next best alternative (Reels ?). I didn't say the platform wasn't popular or catching on. But these USA Tik Tok users are already using FB, Twitter, IG, SnapChat, etc. along with Tik Tok. They are different apps with different functionalities and serve different functions. So they aren't competing in an either/or scenario. They're competing for more face time in front of their apps of course. That much is clear and obvious.

I'm definitely not a fan of FB or any other SM company. But the concept that the US government currently ran by the Trump administration is trying to protect these liberal tech companies that hate his guts is just a loony conspiracy theory.

China and America don't trust each other.

Or maybe we should just defer to your intuition and not the national intelligence agencies responsible for keeping the country safe, despite the fact that the US Army banned it's soldiers from using the app last year due to 'national security risks':

"As of mid-December, the Army began advising soldiers to stop using TikTok on all government-owned phones,” reported the outlet. “The U.S. Navy recently put out similar guidance, prohibiting the use of TikTok on government phones, according to reports by Gizmodo and other publications.”

“The services cannot ban personnel from using TikTok on their personal phones, but Army leaders recommend that service members use caution if they receive random or unfamiliar text messages,” it continued."


I'm sure that's just a big ol' hoax and the real goal is to keep American social media companies on top in America. Suuuurrrrree...............
 
using FB, Twitter, IG, SnapChat,

In my experience kids nowadays barely know what is FB and Insta. YT and TikTok are kings. USA loose their domination in social medias. YT could be easily changed with some chines startup. I think this is the end of USA in internet.
 
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