Wagggi
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What do you think about the panel paytosmm? Have you had some experiences with them
Best SMM Panel for YouTube services [Cheap] ?
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Wagggi
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What do you think about the panel paytosmm? Have you had some experiences with them
What do you think about the panel paytosmm? Have you had some experiences with them
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Hands down solid.
Hands down solid.
Russ Thomas
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None are good. All the views from panels are botted and wont benefit you in anyway. Save your money and make good content
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i'm currently testing those cheap views that appeared on the market recently, the provider is not new, his marketing tactics plan is to fill the smm panels with same EXACT service under fake descriptions multiple times with different prices, under Real views...
Real?? Really?
can someone please explain how to get views from YouTube channel page organically without bots automation?
it's very easy to detect, but 99% of the BHW members here and also the smm-panel resellers will never check, they will promote the "fake views" with fake description on their smm-panels, misleading their clients
so far i didn't see any active enforcement from BHW about this matter, but since this fraud has spread all over the marketplace and started to affect many members, it deserve a detailed shitlist!
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He using just channel referrer. It is real views but like bot. Summary Spam embed views... Best way for spami'm currently testing those cheap views that appeared on the market recently, the provider is not new, his marketing tactics plan is to fill the smm panels with same EXACT service under fake description as real views...
can someone please explain how to get views from YouTube channel page organically without bots automation?
it's very easy to detect, but 99% of the BHW members here and also the smm-panel resellers will never check, they will promote the "fake views" with fake description on their smm-panels, misleading their clients
so far i didn't see any active enforcement from BHW about this matter, but since this fraud has spread all over the marketplace and started to affect many members, it deserve a detailed shitlist!
Cyberars
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manipulation of the channel referrer for sure, but a botnet traffic can't be described as real views, no human is watching or hearing the video, so selling it here on the BHW as "real views" is a pure fraud!He using just channel referrer. It is real views but like bot. Summary Spam embed views... Best way for spam
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Mate, ı agree u but this method’s clicks really real. But they using multiple ips with new method. So like bot. so spam...
Cyberars
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how exactly a user click can send traffic within the channel page referrer, from where? explain how please
if you send direct real traffic to a channel page https://www.youtube.com/user/DireStraitsVEVO
only the default channel video will play, you can't play other video without an automated bot navigation and clicks
also if the playback location is watch-page, why the need of embed enabled videos only?? real watch-page views don't need embed enabled that as they are direct to watch page!!
please don't try to protect that automated traffic, if you resell it as real i suggest you to change that, this deceptive method is going to be exposed here in full, since too many members here falled for this scam.
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Mate, they just using channel referrer. they using /embed/url_link. 2 Weeks ago they was using youtube.com referrer. But fixed so they changed to system with channel referrer. Now can you understand? Sorry my english not good but they using real users. If you want you can search pre roll ads type. They using still this one.
Hopefully you can understand.
Cyberars
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no bro, you are the one that don't understand, real traffic don't just come like that, pre-roll traffic will be registered in a different way, yes they used youtube.com and reddit.com in the past as well, so what that is telling you???Mate, they just using channel referrer. they using /embed/url_link. 2 Weeks ago they was using youtube.com referrer. But fixed so they changed to system with channel referrer. Now can you understand? Sorry my english not good but they using real users. If you want you can search pre roll ads type. They using still this one.
who can control the referrer like that? who can control the watch-time to be 60 seconds exactly! only a bot!
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My friend you didn’t understand correctly. Php system can be edit you know so referrer changing is easy.
Dont confuse with pop views.
Cyberars
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exactly! PHP manipulation, automated clicks on embed containers with fake referrers, playback for 60 in the background with no real human person that watch the video = NOT REAL views!My friend you didn’t understand correctly. Php system can be edit you know so referrer changing is easy.
i hope that soon any BHW member that bought such views from any smm-panel as "real views" will be able to claim a full refund or dispute the purchase since this is fraudulent traffic that pretend to be real and it's not.
shitlists should be opened against any BST owner that continue to market that traffic as "real views" they can call it passive views or fake views, but the description should be 100% accurate.
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Yes referrer is fake but users real. You know in 2017 a lot of panel was use api time method. But now they using pre roll.
I think you don’t know good embed views but you selling embed ads views? That’s interesting my friend
Cyberars
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with all the respect, i'm in this business for more than 14 years and know all the types of views that were sold then and now, the views that mentioned above are not real and not from any type of ads, we already established that!Yes referrer is fake but users real. You know in 2017 a lot of panel was use api time method. But now they using pre roll.
I think you don’t know good embed views but you selling embed ads views? That’s interesting my friend
so please stop this bullshit, just make sure you don't resell them under "real views" on your panel as i asked you before, since if you do, this might risk your BST thread and any trading activities with this community, if BHW management will consider to take action against misleading panels . that's all
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Don't get me wrong buddy. I don't want to argue with you. you just know some parts wrong. You were selling niche views in time. When there is a Time event. Well then that bot looks.
Russ Thomas
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No panels are offering any
Can you atleast be honest and stop mis leading people saying that you offer "real organic viewers". Sellers need to stop lying about their services when 90% of them all sell the same exact thing
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You don't know anything. Just because it means instant is not a bot, you proved how professional it was before you wrote it to the my selling thread. I will not argue with you. My users %100 real and this views working with cpa so no need embed.
Russ Thomas
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Okay, ill make a new test video and test your views and provide everyone what to expect.