what reson behind competitor link to my domain

[Panther28]

I do it often on web 2.0s

 

[dawid007]

I also link to my competition from time to time.

I do this so that others in my niche have a chance to rank in Google.
(sounds really weird but I'm not just thinking about myself)

There is no SEO strategy behind it in my case.

 

[Jstrydor]

No formal notification of algo penalties.

I check competitors on semrush a week later to see if same niche got hit. For the past several updates all competitors got hit with me, so it's not something I messed up.

This also tells us that Google does niche updates. YMYL and shit like that.

They say it's for the good of mankind.

I say they tweak their algorithm to whatever ad niche they need to sell more of.

Their current SERPs are a clusterfuck. Other search engines might take over soon.

Can I PM you about a method I have a theory about but I'm too inexperienced in SEO to know if it would work or not? Something that I've been planning on trying once I get more comfortable with it.

 

[bartosimpsonio]

Can I PM you about a method I have a theory about but I'm too inexperienced in SEO to know if it would work or not? Something that I've been planning on trying once I get more comfortable with it.

Just post it here. I don't read DM's

 

[Jstrydor]

Just post it here. I don't read DM's

Fair enough. Well first my theory is based on the following understanding. 1st - blackhat methods seem to produce faster results and almost always seem to get flagged by either the algorithm or manual penalty eventually. 2. White hat methods seem to be more effective long term and it seems the more I read about actual SEO pros the more they seem to advocate ditching blackhat methods in favor of more sustainable white hat methods. That being said I'm sure part of the reason for that is image and I'm sure many of them still use some form of blackhat tactics.

Ok so with that basis I thought about if you could somehow track when a penalty occurs and if you could identify when the penalty is associated to a website that's hiring someone for SEO that you could then have a way to reach out to the owner and show them why they got penalized. You could explain Blackhat methods and hopefully give some examples of spam (if applicable) that's pointing to their site. You could portray yourself on the up and up and explain that you don't use shady tactics like your competitors do. What do you think about that as an approach to get new SEO customers? It sounds like you could feasibly track rank drops which would then mean you'd just have to find out if the company is doing its own SEO or if it's using someone they hired.

I have no moral standing on the issue for what it's worth, I personally do both, the bottom line for me is if it makes money and doesn't get me in legal trouble I'll do it, lol.

 

[Bread]

Fair enough. Well first my theory is based on the following understanding. 1st - blackhat methods seem to produce faster results and almost always seem to get flagged by either the algorithm or manual penalty eventually. 2. White hat methods seem to be more effective long term and it seems the more I read about actual SEO pros the more they seem to advocate ditching blackhat methods in favor of more sustainable white hat methods. That being said I'm sure part of the reason for that is image and I'm sure many of them still use some form of blackhat tactics.

Ok so with that basis I thought about if you could somehow track when a penalty occurs and if you could identify when the penalty is associated to a website that's hiring someone for SEO that you could then have a way to reach out to the owner and show them why they got penalized. You could explain Blackhat methods and hopefully give some examples of spam (if applicable) that's pointing to their site. You could portray yourself on the up and up and explain that you don't use shady tactics like your competitors do. What do you think about that as an approach to get new SEO customers? It sounds like you could feasibly track rank drops which would then mean you'd just have to find out if the company is doing its own SEO or if it's using someone they hired.

I have no moral standing on the issue for what it's worth, I personally do both, the bottom line for me is if it makes money and doesn't get me in legal trouble I'll do it, lol.

As long as you could recover the site, I don't see why it wouldn't work.

I don't see anything immoral about helping out a business that suffered during an update.

 

[Soucha]

You sure about that?

I'm trying to find out why a white hat site got nuked in May update and all I can find so far is a bunch of crap links blasted at it.

I think he probably is not sure about that...
I have a beautiful site which I put a lot of personal time and effort into over the last couple years which completely tanked after 100 hacked casino links got sent to it late last year.
Right now, it is getting about 10 visitors a day.
I am pretty sure negative SEO is alive and well.

 

[Bread]

I think he probably is not sure about that...
I have a beautiful site which I put a lot of personal time and effort into over the last couple years which completely tanked after 100 hacked casino links got sent to it late last year.
Right now, it is getting about 10 visitors a day.
I am pretty sure negative SEO is alive and well.

Interested in selling?

 

[Jstrydor]

I think he probably is not sure about that...
I have a beautiful site which I put a lot of personal time and effort into over the last couple years which completely tanked after 100 hacked casino links got sent to it late last year.
Right now, it is getting about 10 visitors a day.
I am pretty sure negative SEO is alive and well.

can't you just delist the links and recover it? Sorry if that's a dumb question but I always thought that was a relatively easy fix. I'm also very new and want to learn if I'm wrong