Alex Milenkowich
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they are. but think out a more legit way,dont just tell people "verification required". i think that is saturated and known.
Ogads is ripping me off
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Did you speak with your manager if not speak with him first, they’re a reputed brand
TheVigilante
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Deleted member 784116 your thoughts on this please?
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Deleted member 784116
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In general a thread like this comes up once in a while, because people "completed" an offer and it does not show as paid, tested on several individuals.
Thing is, no matter which offer you are looking at, CC, Pin, E-Mail, App-Install, this always happened and will happen because advertisers have their own conditions for what they consider valid leads and what not. This is most cruel on the e-mail submits cus you can have someone doing EVERYTHING there and still not be paid cus they are not in their 'targeting range' or even in % (something you'd consider "shaving") but of course it can also happen on app installs and anything like that.
Does it mean the network scams and shaves?
As far as I tested through the years and with private contacts I have with people owning networks I don't think that it happens, with a few exceptions (CPALead comes in mind) - but they can only forward whatever the advertiser is firing. If they fire 'valid lead' they send it to you, else they can't. They also have no control on the backend so in theory any advertiser can shave and scam you - and ofc it's something which happens because they need to make money. Think about how much $$ does it make for them if someone installs an app and removes it right after?
(This is btw another criteria, you should motivate your users to USE the app not just install it! And not just that 30 seconds thing...)
I believe that what happens, is depending on the quality of the leads the advertisers will throw more or less % to you of which they credit and which not.
As for AFRICA:
Please specify more which countries. South-Africa (ZA) works well with some pin submits I have seen that. But I don't know any other GEOs there so we would need to check it out. And yes, could be that their offers there are just outdated. So we'd need to check GEO by GEO for what we can find, but for South-Africa definitely pins!
So what to do with all of this?
In my opinion this game has always been about volume and traffic, if you think about individual leads you won't succeed, you need to see the large picture and that is throwing traffic on a good range and getting it to perform as good as possible. If you focus too much on the little detail of if "this $0,50 or that $0,30" were credited to you then maybe it's the wrong business.
Hope some of this helped
Thing is, no matter which offer you are looking at, CC, Pin, E-Mail, App-Install, this always happened and will happen because advertisers have their own conditions for what they consider valid leads and what not. This is most cruel on the e-mail submits cus you can have someone doing EVERYTHING there and still not be paid cus they are not in their 'targeting range' or even in % (something you'd consider "shaving") but of course it can also happen on app installs and anything like that.
Does it mean the network scams and shaves?
As far as I tested through the years and with private contacts I have with people owning networks I don't think that it happens, with a few exceptions (CPALead comes in mind) - but they can only forward whatever the advertiser is firing. If they fire 'valid lead' they send it to you, else they can't. They also have no control on the backend so in theory any advertiser can shave and scam you - and ofc it's something which happens because they need to make money. Think about how much $$ does it make for them if someone installs an app and removes it right after?
(This is btw another criteria, you should motivate your users to USE the app not just install it! And not just that 30 seconds thing...)
I believe that what happens, is depending on the quality of the leads the advertisers will throw more or less % to you of which they credit and which not.
As for AFRICA:
Please specify more which countries. South-Africa (ZA) works well with some pin submits I have seen that. But I don't know any other GEOs there so we would need to check it out. And yes, could be that their offers there are just outdated. So we'd need to check GEO by GEO for what we can find, but for South-Africa definitely pins!
So what to do with all of this?
In my opinion this game has always been about volume and traffic, if you think about individual leads you won't succeed, you need to see the large picture and that is throwing traffic on a good range and getting it to perform as good as possible. If you focus too much on the little detail of if "this $0,50 or that $0,30" were credited to you then maybe it's the wrong business.
Hope some of this helped
- Mar 2, 2012
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Victor your account has sent 0 clicks to any offers, you just registered this account on bhw to complain, but we've not had any traffic on your account ever.
I think this is just a thread designed to tarnish our reputation... really big waste of time
Our network has never and will never shave, if you are "asking your friends" to complete an offer, do you think their leads are going to be accepted by our advertisers? NO. of course not, you are from Nigeria but you have American friends who are willing to submit correct information to the USA email submits ?
I have seen NO clicks on your account at all since 2017. Dont want you accuse you of lying but this is really stupid man and i dont think you understand how this affects our business with such negative reputation based on no actual proof of working with us. its very frustrating for me, especially the reputation our network has.
We dont have offers that DONT perform, you need traffic that actually converts for that to work, which it seems clear to me, that you dont.
There are 100k other members on our network who would say otherwise. Thank you to everyone who came to the networks defense here.
Ben
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You were never approved on our network.
90% of the time, your users are trying to lie to you on offerwalls or they have already completed the offer before on someone else's offerwall -- in that case, the advertiser wont credit the lead twice, it is nothing to do with us "cheating" you at all.
Trying offers yourself on the same IP as being logged onto OGAds will not credit your lead (its fraudulently completing your own offers)
If i credited you for your own sign up its because you were complaining when sending traffic that wasnt performing or completing the offers correctly.
- Mar 2, 2012
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Its not hard to find a reliable network, we are one, if you really KNOW the users are completing the offers with correct information and not frauding then how do you know they are really entering it in properly. Most people have seen the CPA offers before and know all about them and often put in incorrect info.
CPI is a new breed, we are the #1 CPI network for incentive installs in the world and we've held our reputation very well from non stop work and amazing dedicated managers.
Try OGAds DaPromo, you wont regret it. We do not and have never shaved. In the case that the data sent to CPA offers is incorrect then the lead wont be approved, that applies to me & any other cpa network.
This is not my fault, but your traffic quality / users fault.
Alex Milenkowich
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ogads is the best converting network i've seen so far. cpa email submits do convert well,and app installs even better. cpagrip and the rest of them are zero for ogads.
ziko12345
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Which ones did u actually try?
Alex Milenkowich
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well,cpa grip,mg media,cpa build. OG converts best for me,right now no doubts about it. i mean,it will convert for everyone.
CAPITAO CONFUSAO
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Avoid OGAds.
Got some problem, contacted then and they said: ¨ To conversions can come 1-2 days later¨. I stopped everything just to test and nothing.
Then i did a video of someone completing 2 offers ( no conversions) showed OGAds via email and no response.
They shave more than half of your earnings.
Got some problem, contacted then and they said: ¨ To conversions can come 1-2 days later¨. I stopped everything just to test and nothing.
Then i did a video of someone completing 2 offers ( no conversions) showed OGAds via email and no response.
They shave more than half of your earnings.
ziko12345
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ziko12345
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Jeez bro i know. I have had many people completing offers ans sending me screenshots proof and no conversions at the dashboard. I wss promoting my landing page on instagram .
ziko12345
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Nah bro. Im getting 10 clicks per day now
Read what @Deleted member 784116 wrote above. Aim for 1000+ clicks daily
ziko12345
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So according to you. If you have 1000+ clicks daily, ogads will convert better than the other networks?
steroidjoe
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Shouldn't you be sewing them instead? You'll be a millionaire sewing them with that.