Sudden Ranked Drop? Google Algo Update?

[bagle]

Guys what do you think to move all content in a new domain and deindex the old domain from google? Can works?

This will be my last action on this topic. I will check this in a few weeks.

 

[AceCanoe]

Guys what do you think to move all content in a new domain and deindex the old domain from google? Can works?

Actually now that you mentioned that. I've seen someone in my niche do this actually. He moved all of his content to a new domain and now ranking his previous content on it. The thing about this is that you may have to continue doing this if you want to save your content

It's more BH to do this since you're trying to avoid G from deranking it. But it does work.

 

[KLKE]

Fully de-indexed again... i am seriously thinking about to change the domain name...

 

[jyciap11]

Actually now that you mentioned that. I've seen someone in my niche do this actually. He moved all of his content to a new domain and now ranking his previous content on it. The thing about this is that you may have to continue doing this if you want to save your content

It's more BH to do this since you're trying to avoid G from deranking it. But it does work.

Do you think that after some time you have to change again the domain with this method?

 

[KLKE]

Do you think that after some time you have to change again the domain with this method?

I hope not but who knows... Google is getting absolutely unpredictable...

 

[jyciap11]

I don't understand one thing, our website with site:mydomain.com appear to be deindex and also in search console, right? So, why with the command site: posturl.com the urls appear in Google? So our websites is not deindex

 

[AceCanoe]

Do you think that after some time you have to change again the domain with this method?

Yes. I actually know this guy and I know for a fact he changes his domains often. And it does work for a period of time (until the same thing happens with the new domain) then you have to switch content over to a new one.

 

[jyciap11]

Yes. I actually know this guy and I know for a fact he changes his domains often. And it does work for a period of time (until the same thing happens with the new domain) then you have to switch content over to a new one.

Sorry for my question, what do you mean with "often"? 1 month? 1 year? 1 week? Because for a year the game is worth the candle, for a month not!

 

[AceCanoe]

Sorry for my question, what do you mean with "often"? 1 month? 1 year? 1 week? Because for a year the game is worth the candle, for a month not!

It depends. Often as in a few months, up to a year. From my research, the domain definitely lasts longer than a few months (close to a year) then you will have to switch again.

 

[N1mrod]

Okay. I have done some research on this and I have came to the conclusion that the update hasn't targeted everybody.

If you were affected, it was for a reason. Maybe your site has weak content, or it does not provide any value. In other words, your site may have thin content or something like the sort.

https://yoast.com/what-is-thin-content/
https://www.searchenginejournal.com/what-is-thin-content-how-to-fix-it/270583/

I noticed I had some of these issues on my site which was affected.

But depending on what niche you're in. I've seen a lot of SPAM ranking page 1 since these updates started rolling in and it's ridiculous. This is when I thought Google was just being flat out dumb (they still kinda are) but ranking LQ parasites, and domains that look like a freaking IP address.

I see a lot of domains/keywords being ranked for the wrong search terms as well. And I have no words for that. Hopefully they fix that issue.

But if you do your research and find blogs in your niche that been around since, let's say, 2015, you will notice that all of their content on their site is ranked in the SERPs. This blog in my niche has been around I think since then and I can see that they must have over 50 pages indexed right now, which is perfect. They weren't affected by any update and they never will be because their blog doesn't have thin content and provides so much value that it will be ranked forever.

So that should be the end goal if you never want your sites to tank. It should be ideal to look out for these high DA domains.

It would be the case with thin content sites, if there wouldn't be really whitehat sites from people that were affected by this. I see (like you though) totally crap sites that surely can be described that they have thin content and they rank well. I saw really good sites from people that are complaining about this indexing issue and they tanked. There is no pattern here, or we don't see it still.

 

[AceCanoe]

It would be the case with thin content sites, if there wouldn't be really whitehat sites from people that were affected by this. I see (like you though) totally crap sites that surely can be described that they have thin content and they rank well. I saw really good sites from people that are complaining about this indexing issue and they tanked. There is no pattern here, or we don't see it still.

Sorry, what you said in the beginning didn't make sense. However, I have not seen any good sites that got tanked. What I have seen is:

1. Websites with thin content with little to no value slowly getting deranked in the SERPs until there's nothing indexed.
2. And the indexing problem, especially with new domains.

In my opinion, Google is obviously going to favor and rank the sites or content, if you will, that carries more value and has much more to offer than a "good site" with some content but not the best. There's quite a difference if you look at it like this. But I can agree with you that there is definitely an indexing issue and Google needs to fix this so everything can go back to normal again.

 

[N1mrod]

Sorry, what you said in the beginning didn't make sense. However, I have not seen any good sites that got tanked. What I have seen is:

1. Websites with thin content with little to no value slowly getting deranked in the SERPs until there's nothing indexed.
2. And the indexing problem, especially with new domains.

In my opinion, Google is obviously going to favor and rank the sites or content, if you will, that carries more value and has much more to offer than a "good site" with some content but not the best. There's quite a difference if you look at it like this. But I can agree with you that there is definitely an indexing issue and Google needs to fix this so everything can go back to normal again.

I meant, that I think there is no correlation between thin content and this impact. I didn't see either that sites tanked immediately, they got hit and slowly went down in traffic, like my sites also. Like I said, I see good sites with good content that tanked (without affiliate links stuffing everywhere), so this has nothing to do with content in my humble opinion.

 

[jyciap11]

I don't understand one thing, our website with site:mydomain.com appear to be deindex and also in search console, right? So, why with the command site: posturl.com the urls appear in Google? So our websites is not deindex

I think the point is this in the quote. We are talking about indexing issue, but the urls it seems to be indexed if you search with the full url.

 

[Escehas]

Sorry, what you said in the beginning didn't make sense. However, I have not seen any good sites that got tanked. What I have seen is:

1. Websites with thin content with little to no value slowly getting deranked in the SERPs until there's nothing indexed.
2. And the indexing problem, especially with new domains.

In my opinion, Google is obviously going to favor and rank the sites or content, if you will, that carries more value and has much more to offer than a "good site" with some content but not the best. There's quite a difference if you look at it like this. But I can agree with you that there is definitely an indexing issue and Google needs to fix this so everything can go back to normal again.

Depends what you deem as more value. I prefer articles that are more technical and analyze something in depth, while the majority of people want some quick answers, therefore the website with thin content will be seen by Google as the better one, even if it's just a copied, dumbed-down version of a longer and better article. And with the latest series of updates from Google, it's clear that it's better to have lighter and shorter articles with lots of backlinks than to actually bother writing something of value in the long term. Not unless you're a big publication.

 

[AceCanoe]

I meant, that I think there is no correlation between thin content and this impact. I didn't see either that sites tanked immediately, they got hit and slowly went down in traffic, like my sites also. Like I said, I see good sites with good content that tanked (without affiliate links stuffing everywhere), so this has nothing to do with content in my humble opinion.

So do you think the blog in my niche (that has been around since early 2015) didn't get affected by this update because his website has been around since that long and he has a high DA now? Or because of how much content he has? Or what do you think? When I do this site:domain.com for his blog, he has over 50 pages indexed including his domain. Everything looks good there?

So if you owned that blog, you would have not been affected by this impact, obviously. We don't know the real reason behind dozens of website owners getting deranked and slowly deindexed. It could be based on multiple factors.

I think the point is this in the quote. We are talking about indexing issue, but the urls it seems to be indexed if you search with the full url.

I have the same problem with one of my sites. Some of the posts are still ranking across the SERPs even for different KW terms, which doesn't make sense. It obviously means the whole domain is going to be deindexed eventually, even if one page or post got deindexed. It's a matter of time. Otherwise, why were they indexed initially then deindexed? It's a sign that you have to either remove that content or get a new domain and start over with better content.

 

[jyciap11]

So do you think the blog in my niche (that has been around since early 2015) didn't get affected by this update because his website has been around since that long and he has a high DA now? Or because of how much content he has? Or what do you think? When I do this site:domain.com for his blog, he has over 50 pages indexed including his domain. Everything looks good there?

So if you owned that blog, you would have not been affected by this impact, obviously. We don't know the real reason behind dozens of website owners getting deranked and slowly deindexed. It could be based on multiple factors.



I have the same problem with one of my sites. Some of the posts are still ranking across the SERPs even for different KW terms, which doesn't make sense. It obviously means the whole domain is going to be deindexed eventually, even if one page or post got deindexed. It's a matter of time. Otherwise, why were they indexed initially then deindexed? It's a sign that you have to either remove that content or get a new domain and start over with better content.

I'm not agree with this. Nobody know why Google do this and how this situation can evolve. The urls are indexed, but it is clear that there is something wrong with the indexing.

 

[AceCanoe]

I'm not agree with this. Nobody know why Google do this and how this situation can evolve. The urls are indexed, but it is clear that there is something wrong with the indexing.

You're right there is definitely an indexing issue and something wrong with the new algorithm. But if all of your posts gets deindexed like I've seen from one of my sites, I feel like there's no coming back from that unless you transfer content to new domain as we discussed previously.

Basically from this past week, I've been noticing that Google has been favoring high DA domains more. So I've tested, Tumblr, Pinterest, etc. These are outranking my new domains and other sites - which I find rather funny. No matter if it's spam, G still favors these platforms.

 

[fheaky]

You're right there is definitely an indexing issue and something wrong with the new algorithm. But if all of your posts gets deindexed like I've seen from one of my sites, I feel like there's no coming back from that unless you transfer content to new domain as we discussed previously.

Basically from this past week, I've been noticing that Google has been favoring high DA domains more. So I've tested, Tumblr, Pinterest, etc. These are outranking my new domains and other sites - which I find rather funny. No matter if it's spam, G still favors these platforms.

It seems like for some keywords Google will only rank authority sites; doesn't matter if they're relevant or not. Some keywords only have Pinterest, Google Books and some other authority sites as results on the first pages even though they're not very relevant to the user's search.

 

[Escehas]

You're right there is definitely an indexing issue and something wrong with the new algorithm. But if all of your posts gets deindexed like I've seen from one of my sites, I feel like there's no coming back from that unless you transfer content to new domain as we discussed previously.

Basically from this past week, I've been noticing that Google has been favoring high DA domains more. So I've tested, Tumblr, Pinterest, etc. These are outranking my new domains and other sites - which I find rather funny. No matter if it's spam, G still favors these platforms.

Also, tell me I'm not the only one that has noticed that the Google results are starting to look more like a social media website with all those boxes and lists and categories all over the place instead of the proper results. I noticed that the focus starts to be more on trends than on the actual results that you want, therefore Tumblr, Pinterest and so on, which have a high user density are outranking all of us.

 

[N1mrod]

So do you think the blog in my niche (that has been around since early 2015) didn't get affected by this update because his website has been around since that long and he has a high DA now? Or because of how much content he has? Or what do you think? When I do this site:domain.com for his blog, he has over 50 pages indexed including his domain. Everything looks good there?

So if you owned that blog, you would have not been affected by this impact, obviously. We don't know the real reason behind dozens of website owners getting deranked and slowly deindexed. It could be based on multiple factors.

I think it's random, because I didn't see any logic pattern yet in this mess. I could be wrong, obviously, but I am very careful in blaming any factor, because situation like this never ever occured before.

Basically from this past week, I've been noticing that Google has been favoring high DA domains more. So I've tested, Tumblr, Pinterest, etc. These are outranking my new domains and other sites - which I find rather funny. No matter if it's spam, G still favors these platforms.

I agree, I can see it too. It seems that content is irrelevant here, all that matters is DA, and parasites with spam content ranks very well. If this is what Google calls user-friendly search engine, then I'm out. It's a disgrace, It's a joke, and all Googlers that lie to people on twitter and forums that there is no issue at all can go to... wherever they want to...