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MMblackhat
Newbie
- Oct 18, 2016
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Anybody else having problems with Socialpanel24?
Looks like they are now just marking your orders completed, charging 100%, but yet if i open the url, then nothing is delivered.
Is this a common practice in smm panels these days, that they lie that order is completed, charge 100% and then deliver nothing?
It's a shame, because socialpanel24 has been working nicely, but now they are marking delivered and charging with no delivery.
Could anybody running a panel please explain the logic behind this? If i write a support ticket, then all I get as a reply is " pls wait some time pls wait yes we fix yes fix yes yes one day wait some time yess yes i am 3rd world retard"
Looks like they are now just marking your orders completed, charging 100%, but yet if i open the url, then nothing is delivered.
Is this a common practice in smm panels these days, that they lie that order is completed, charge 100% and then deliver nothing?
It's a shame, because socialpanel24 has been working nicely, but now they are marking delivered and charging with no delivery.
Could anybody running a panel please explain the logic behind this? If i write a support ticket, then all I get as a reply is " pls wait some time pls wait yes we fix yes fix yes yes one day wait some time yess yes i am 3rd world retard"
no offnese but hwy dont you just take the time/effort (im sure it might tale a lot but clearly it will be worth it) to become a reseller yourself?
Then you can advertise and show proof on how you fixed all these problems and youll win all the retailers over.
Then you can advertise and show proof on how you fixed all these problems and youll win all the retailers over.
MMblackhat
Newbie
- Oct 18, 2016
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Dude, are you living in this same reality?
The guys running the panels are literally lying to people .They are saying that the delivery is this time and quality is this, then they accept your money and then they deliver nothing. Currenly I have found over 100 orders, that have been marked as delivered in the panels, but in reality the orders have not been delivered. For example a user with 200 Tiktok followers ordered 1k followers. Order is marked completed, but the user still has 200 followers like when the order was made.
You are saying that this is okay? I am not allowed to bring up the fact that there are lots of lying, scamming pieces of shit running the panels?
WHat are you talking about?
Where did i say its ok to lie?
Im saying theres nothing you can do about it unless you become the provider is all, so maybe since this is a big issue for you you can go see how you or a group of like minded people can become the source, and then you wont have to rely on scammers.
EnhancedHuman
Regular Member
- Sep 13, 2016
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SMM-s are like bots. Some people are still in denial that IG won and you can't use them anymore
daniel bender
Banned - Multiple Rules Violations
- Jan 4, 2020
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Here is the issue with this post, I dont know what kindve scale business people in here have done but I started out reselling testing panels for a group, I got into reselling due to having resources of testing panels, and eventually began to mix them and make my own services. That led to me being a panel owner eventually, and then working with providers. I myself make a mix of different panels I know to be working and may also mix providers
The issue with this post is its assuming fault with providers, a provider is running a business like anyone else, some businesses are good some are not, you have to test around and find people that work for you. the bestway to test is to run channels for yourself or be part of a small group where you can scale and find out whats working and not. Relying on 1, 2 or even 10 panels is asking for issues, many of the main panels have different services that work for different things. Followiz however is one of the few panels I would suggest to stay away from, and talking to other larger panel owners, everyone knows the main panels have issues and smaller panel owners competing with the biggest ones will purposelly lower their rates even as service providers to deal with them and make more sales, so there is no monopoly, you have to expand what your working with and test around. I spent thousands of dollars just testing panels knowing I probably and many times would not make the money back because I wanted to find ones that worked. My background came from trying to run a youtube channel and getting demonitized and needing to find solutions so as a panel owner now who started as a channel owner and then reseller I can tell you that there are good providers and bad ones, and no one owns a monopoly there are checks and balances on all the levels, if you want a basic list of various services main smm panels have that work or dont or how to read panels i offer coaching if you want me to walk you through them on teamviewer over an hour or so
The issue with this post is its assuming fault with providers, a provider is running a business like anyone else, some businesses are good some are not, you have to test around and find people that work for you. the bestway to test is to run channels for yourself or be part of a small group where you can scale and find out whats working and not. Relying on 1, 2 or even 10 panels is asking for issues, many of the main panels have different services that work for different things. Followiz however is one of the few panels I would suggest to stay away from, and talking to other larger panel owners, everyone knows the main panels have issues and smaller panel owners competing with the biggest ones will purposelly lower their rates even as service providers to deal with them and make more sales, so there is no monopoly, you have to expand what your working with and test around. I spent thousands of dollars just testing panels knowing I probably and many times would not make the money back because I wanted to find ones that worked. My background came from trying to run a youtube channel and getting demonitized and needing to find solutions so as a panel owner now who started as a channel owner and then reseller I can tell you that there are good providers and bad ones, and no one owns a monopoly there are checks and balances on all the levels, if you want a basic list of various services main smm panels have that work or dont or how to read panels i offer coaching if you want me to walk you through them on teamviewer over an hour or so
MarcusDude
Banned - Selling via PM
- Aug 9, 2019
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I Am Sinking on the Same Boat ! Lol !
MMblackhat
Newbie
- Oct 18, 2016
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The thing with me is, I agree that it must be very hard to run a panel.
What I don't agree with, is the fact that panel owners write that the services are instant, when they are not even started in 5 days after the order. What I don't agree with is that panels mark your orders completed, charge you 100% and then say that there is nothing wrong - everything delivered. Altough customer had 200 followers, ordered 1000, is sitting at 200 and order is completed. Nothing wrong here, right?
I am not saying that running a panel is easy.
I am saying that you do not have to be a lying piece of shit muslim scammer to run a panel. You can run a panel without lying.
If the service takes 1 week to deliver, then write that delivery is in 1 week, not SUPER INSTANT HQ HD 4K SUPERHQ SUPERMODEL-WILL-BJ-U. This is honestly retarded.
Most of the panel owners would be in jail if they weren't hiding behind a fake identity. If i find out my panel owner's identity i'm sending it straight to the interpol.
I have never seen more lying pieces of shit running businesses, than SMM panel owners. All the lying pieces of feces running smm panels, scamming their customers, not deliverying services, stating wrong qualities and delivery times deserve to burn in hell.
Karma does not forget.
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daniel bender
Banned - Multiple Rules Violations
- Jan 4, 2020
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Yeah you need to learn how to read panels
Here are some basic tips
there are 3 types of main retention used, short, medium and long
Short retention is typically 10 second to 5 minute, with most decent services being between 2 and 5 minutes, usually these are the most reliable for alot of reasons, theyre generally the most cost effective. Justanotherpanel for example offered a .96 cent up t 5' minute retention until recently, its now 1.44 after coppa updates, but for along time, that service would constantly send orders into processing for overload, and generally most panels have the same type of services, very short retention which always costs the most, short middle retention which is 2 to 5 minutes, and then rarely on occasion middle retention which is 10+ minutes
If it doesnt list the retention time it means its random and random is less than 30 seconds
If it lists 10' vs 10 the 10' means 10 minutes
services that take a week to deliver also may be unrelated to your time of purchase for example, if you purchased during a coppa update that particular type of watch time may have stopped working after you placed your order
The last type of retention is long, which is 1+ hours
Last June after youtubes major first update watch time prices spiked due to it becoming much harder to get monetized, and thats when long retention started popping up, most notably followiz
As a side note, if you checked followizs pilot trust score before youtubes updates last summer it was much higher, its currently 1.8/5, and this is mainly due to the issues with retention that happened last summer, the panel had issues already but thousands of people lost their orders when youtube updated. Long retention then split into other types of retention such as 2 and 3 hour, and then a series of other changes came out such as ads beginning to see more use in september, and then until december when youtube stopped counting truview campaigns for monetization hours
So you see it can change and vary so you need to have a network in place relying on 1 or a few panels for various services is a very small window, if you were just using followiz for watch time, you would have a very angry view towards alot of panels, when thats not the case. If you take the average cost of watch time as well right now from many of the major panels, smm-heaven, justanotherpanel, smmlite, qqtube, smmkings, they all generally have the same prices aside from certain specific non watch time orders which you could use separately. But if your only using them smaller competitive smm panels which have better pricing will get pushed out of the picture, its similar to saying target has terrible service when ebay exists, and then amazon, and then ali express
Anyway bit of a tangent, but the point is you have to know how to read panels and navigate it especially if your investing alot of money, that should be your goal, my personal way of testing was to invest the minimum amount per panel for the tests i wanted and move on, what stuck i pursued and scaled
and thats how you effectively build a link of resources with minimal spending and maximized testing, anyone can do this strategy
Here are some basic tips
there are 3 types of main retention used, short, medium and long
Short retention is typically 10 second to 5 minute, with most decent services being between 2 and 5 minutes, usually these are the most reliable for alot of reasons, theyre generally the most cost effective. Justanotherpanel for example offered a .96 cent up t 5' minute retention until recently, its now 1.44 after coppa updates, but for along time, that service would constantly send orders into processing for overload, and generally most panels have the same type of services, very short retention which always costs the most, short middle retention which is 2 to 5 minutes, and then rarely on occasion middle retention which is 10+ minutes
If it doesnt list the retention time it means its random and random is less than 30 seconds
If it lists 10' vs 10 the 10' means 10 minutes
services that take a week to deliver also may be unrelated to your time of purchase for example, if you purchased during a coppa update that particular type of watch time may have stopped working after you placed your order
The last type of retention is long, which is 1+ hours
Last June after youtubes major first update watch time prices spiked due to it becoming much harder to get monetized, and thats when long retention started popping up, most notably followiz
As a side note, if you checked followizs pilot trust score before youtubes updates last summer it was much higher, its currently 1.8/5, and this is mainly due to the issues with retention that happened last summer, the panel had issues already but thousands of people lost their orders when youtube updated. Long retention then split into other types of retention such as 2 and 3 hour, and then a series of other changes came out such as ads beginning to see more use in september, and then until december when youtube stopped counting truview campaigns for monetization hours
So you see it can change and vary so you need to have a network in place relying on 1 or a few panels for various services is a very small window, if you were just using followiz for watch time, you would have a very angry view towards alot of panels, when thats not the case. If you take the average cost of watch time as well right now from many of the major panels, smm-heaven, justanotherpanel, smmlite, qqtube, smmkings, they all generally have the same prices aside from certain specific non watch time orders which you could use separately. But if your only using them smaller competitive smm panels which have better pricing will get pushed out of the picture, its similar to saying target has terrible service when ebay exists, and then amazon, and then ali express
Anyway bit of a tangent, but the point is you have to know how to read panels and navigate it especially if your investing alot of money, that should be your goal, my personal way of testing was to invest the minimum amount per panel for the tests i wanted and move on, what stuck i pursued and scaled
and thats how you effectively build a link of resources with minimal spending and maximized testing, anyone can do this strategy
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Jessica Folley
Junior Member
- Dec 6, 2018
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All the panels seem to be down today. Did one of you got so mad they brought the whole machine down ?
- Jan 7, 2019
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It is important to not keep all your eggs in one basket and to minimize the risks of not only using several SMM panels but going further of setting up your own network of instagram engagements especially when the shit hits the fans.
Early last year, I've been burned by SMM Panels more times than I can count, but still had to utilize them in order to continue business with my clients. I knew that I had to find a sustainable solution and not have the full control of whether my business can survive in the hands of the SMM panels.
Now that it is 2020, won't need to deal with SMM Panels anymore. If you are looking for a sustainable way in building social engagements for your clients, I'll be more than happy to share that knowledge. Let me know.
Early last year, I've been burned by SMM Panels more times than I can count, but still had to utilize them in order to continue business with my clients. I knew that I had to find a sustainable solution and not have the full control of whether my business can survive in the hands of the SMM panels.
Now that it is 2020, won't need to deal with SMM Panels anymore. If you are looking for a sustainable way in building social engagements for your clients, I'll be more than happy to share that knowledge. Let me know.
rdroubleyou
Newbie
- Mar 8, 2017
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Any chance you could shoot me a message? Would like to discuss some things.
MMblackhat
Newbie
- Oct 18, 2016
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Reminds me of socialpanel24. Used to be great, now they are marking orders completed, when 0 is delivered. Fucking disgrace
I've had my own share of hairpulling when it comes to these SMM panels. I wasted $1000s trying to find a good source for fast and instant youtube views but literally every single service that I've tried has been an outright lie with "super instant" services starting after 24 hours (fast start time is crucial when it comes to ranking yt views). "Super instant", "Super fast", what a fucking joke. If anyone knows of an actual YT provider that doesn't resell the same shit like the literally 100s of other shitmm panels drop me a PM. (I've done $xx,xxx in views purchasing)
daniel bender
Banned - Multiple Rules Violations
- Jan 4, 2020
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ill send you a pm 
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