Computer screen goes dark for few seconds after restart

[HoNeYBiRD]

I tried it.

I waited a few minutes after the computer restarted. Then I opened the programs very slowly with 10+++ seconds delay between each program. At program 43 I got the black screen.

So that's not it. Something else happens to cause this.

And now (like every time) I will close all the programs. And then I can open them even with just a 2 second delay and there will be no black screen and no issues.

Maybe, I don't know, maybe the computer doesn't get overclocked properly when it starts, and then when it's pushed after a certain demand it gets overclocked = black screen = and then it stays overclocked until I restart it again.

I don't know. I'm just guessing here.

I just learned how to create a batch file and created one that opens all 60 programs (I increased it to 60 programs now ) with a 6 second delay between each.

It's good because save me a lot of time. Until now I was always opening all programs manually like a moron.

Oh well. But still, the process of restarting the computers now is:

Restart computer -> Run batch file -> at some point after program 30 get black screen -> stop batch file -> close all programs -> run batch file

When that process is completed my programs are all opened and ready for use. If I could figure out what the black screen shit is all about I could eliminate the part in Red from the process :/

Yea, a batch file makes your life easier for sure. As to why the black screen happens, i have no more idea, maybe it's just too many programs to start for that amount of RAM, if you have other RAM laying around or in another machine, maybe try it with more RAM. Monitor the RAM and disk usage, while you open the programs, if any of those maxes out, that's the bottleneck. As to why they run the next time without the black screen, that i explained here: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/c...ds-after-restart.1175691/page-2#post-12594980

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

Yea, a batch file makes your life easier for sure. As to why the black screen happens, i have no more idea, maybe it's just too many programs to start for that amount of RAM, if you have other RAM laying around or in another machine, maybe try it with more RAM. Monitor the RAM and disk usage, while you open the programs, if any of those maxes out, that's the bottleneck. As to why they run the next time without the black screen, that i explained here: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/c...ds-after-restart.1175691/page-2#post-12594980

The computer has 36GB of (what I think) is pretty powerful ram. It's 2x16GB chips. Ram is 3200MHz.

I ordered 2 more 16GB chips, the same ones. I'll use 1 of them for the computer that has the issue. So take it up to 52GB ram. And I'll also increase the amount of Firefoxes from 60 that I'm running now to... I don't know... as much as it can handle

I doubt it will fix the problem, but if it does I'll report back... or if adding more ram creates new problems I'll also report

 

[Repulsor]

The computer has 36GB of (what I think) is pretty powerful ram. It's 2x16GB chips. Ram is 3200MHz.

I ordered 2 more 16GB chips, the same ones. I'll use 1 of them for the computer that has the issue. So take it up to 52GB ram. And I'll also increase the amount of Firefoxes from 60 that I'm running now to... I don't know... as much as it can handle

I doubt it will fix the problem, but if it does I'll report back... or if adding more ram creates new problems I'll also report

All the experts here, I will just add my 2 cents.
You can also close programs using a batch file.
So start using batch file, when it gets stuck, close using another batch file and start again. So do that till you get the problems fixed

I hope you have been monitoring the CPU, RAM, Graphics Card usages while the apps open. Can you report what you saw on those just before the black screen?

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

All the experts here, I will just add my 2 cents.
You can also close programs using a batch file.
So start using batch file, when it gets stuck, close using another batch file and start again. So do that till you get the problems fixed

I hope you have been monitoring the CPU, RAM, Graphics Card usages while the apps open. Can you report what you saw on those just before the black screen?

Closing them isn't really a big deal. Just a super fast repeated clicking in the top-right corner of the screen. It would probably take longer to go to desktop and double click the batch file and wait it out (not sure how fast it would close it all) than to just click 30-50 times (depending on how many programs are opened) with the mouse and close them all. In any case, it's no big deal.

I have not been monitoring the CPU, RAM and Graphics Card usages while the apps open:

Where would I monitor, in the Task Manager -> Performance tab?

And how would that work in practice? I would check it in between opening each program and see if it's having some weird spikes before the black screen occurs, and then also see where the stats are sitting after the black screen?

 

[Deleted member 657006]

Graphics card (maybe a driver problem) or not enough RAM.

that what it is after playing with pc since 8, now I am old totally agree 100% bang on with the info above.

you're getting graphic card conflict and ram io conflict.

your application all run with different installed graphic setup and ram use, as you noticed as you switch on apps sometimes screen blacks out that because of the conflicted drivers loaded and ram clashing for memory.

your running too many apps to stop conflicts in general.

solution.

might work.
use a vm app install another os and install half the apps on the vm .

this might solve all conflicts try.

if that don't work you need another computer to run half of your apps.

servers usually run with vm to cut cost but servers can run many apps but only spread over many vm with the os loaded.

you can do the same.

in your case i would run x10 vm and run x10 new installed os and add 10 apps needed on all x10 vms that 60 apps running over 10 vms will be better and faster solution.

on the vm your need harddrive space and ram so make sure the pc got enough and spread it to the 10 vms.

good luck .

i have never known windows os allow so many apps to run at once in general you been very lucky so far .(( backup everythink ))

windows always has conflicts and crash afther 4 to 6 programs loaded it just windows os .

you been very lucky.

i got a new i9 with 64gb on it with 10tb ill give this a go, ill see if all my programs run at once .

i got all my os and apps backed as a full image to be reloaded stright back on my ssd if it crash , so worth a go.

 

[Repulsor]

Closing them isn't really a big deal. Just a super fast repeated clicking in the top-right corner of the screen. It would probably take longer to go to desktop and double click the batch file and wait it out (not sure how fast it would close it all) than to just click 30-50 times (depending on how many programs are opened) with the mouse and close them all. In any case, it's no big deal.

I have not been monitoring the CPU, RAM and Graphics Card usages while the apps open:

Where would I monitor, in the Task Manager -> Performance tab?

And how would that work in practice? I would check it in between opening each program and see if it's having some weird spikes before the black screen occurs, and then also see where the stats are sitting after the black screen?

Taskmanager -> Performance Tab, is good for the start.
And in Taskmanager Options menu, tick "Always on Top". So whatever app is opening won't cover the task manager.

Update back after checking.

 

[Ryan Guzman]

maybe its happen for RAM issue

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

Taskmanager -> Performance Tab, is good for the start.
And in Taskmanager Options menu, tick "Always on Top". So whatever app is opening won't cover the task manager.

Update back after checking.

Ok I'll do it on the next restart in 2-3 days and report back. Thanks

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

So I'm living with this problem.

How I operate now is, I restart my computer and I run a batch file to open 70 programs with a 2 second delay between each. In 95% of the cases I get the black screen flickering around program 30-40. Then I shut down all the programs, and run the batch file again. Then all 70 programs open and run, and there's no more problems.

I do that every time I restart the computer, and it's annoying, but manageable.

Now...

I put together this computer with all brand new parts, only the graphics card is second hand old piece of crap. I did not have another graphics card to test to see if that's the issue. But now I'm putting together a new computer and I got a much much better graphics card. When I sit to put together the new computer in about a week, I'll open the computer I made this topic about and put the new graphics card in it, and then try to do what I do and see what happens.

I'll report back what happens...

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

Get on skype with @davids355 and ask him to help you out.

He'll probably do it for free and is quite knowledgeable and would be my go to in your situation.

If he is tied up, hit up @jazzc, the guy has brains in parts of his body that would make Einstein wonder what actually happened.

If neither is available find a landfill and move on with life.

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

Get on skype with @davids355 and ask him to help you out.

He'll probably do it for free and is quite knowledgeable and would be my go to in your situation.

If he is tied up, hit up @jazzc, the guy has brains in parts of his body that would make Einstein wonder what actually happened.

If neither is available find a landfill and move on with life.

hahaha thanks man

Let's take it step by step. Now that I finally have a new graphics card I'll get to test it. Many people here suggested it's a graphics card issue, but I couldn't test because I had no other gpu. Now I do, so I will.

Dude, this gpu is HUUUUUUUUGE. It's probably like 3-4 times bigger than the other one I have. When did gpus get this big? Look at this shit..

It better make me a cup of coffee and give me a blowjob for taking up so much space in my life

On the realz though. It better have some power in it. My new computer has to work flawlessly!

 

[alonelywriter]

Get An SSD ..
A New RAM... preferably more than 8 gigs
Shift your heavy programs to SSD, will help them to load faster..

Did you picked up a random GPU?????

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

Get An SSD ..
A New RAM... preferably more than 8 gigs
Shift your heavy programs to SSD, will help them to load faster..

The computer only has 1 hard drive, and it's ssd.

It has 48GB Ram (3 x 16GB), 3200 MHz, CL 18. Same brand - Kingston.

At full force when I run all my programs the ram runs at about 80%. It used to be 99% at 32GB ram, but then I added 16GB more so now it runs at 80%. My CPU on the other hand runs 99%, but I can't add more CPU

I only run 1 type of program, and it runs perfectly fine... but first I have to get a black screen thing... I don't know what to call it... a blackout. When I get it, everything runs normally until I restart the computer. Then I need a push (open too many programs too fast) in order to get the blackout, and then again all runs well until the next repeat... loop...

 

[alonelywriter]

Did you picked up a random GPU?????

Better choice would have been Nvidia Quadro RTX 6000 if you have a good budget.

For work related stuff.

@Scorpion Ghost
I know a bit about computer stuff. i am a bit confused about your PC getting bottlenecked because of the heavy specs you have..

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

Better choice would have been Nvidia Quadro RTX 6000 if you have a good budget.

For work related stuff.

@Scorpion Ghost
I know a bit about computer stuff. i am a bit confused about your PC getting bottlenecked because of the heavy specs you have..

I don't need a good gpu. I'm not doing anything graphics related on the computer, neither do I plan to in the future. But that's just my opinion. All I do is run as many Firefox browsers as I can on the computer, and they visit websites on autopilot. There are no games, no other programs, nothing at all on the computer that requires a good gpu. I wasn't even gonna get a gpu if I didn't need one to get display on the monitor.

But that's just my amateur opinion that I don't need a good gpu, I don't really actually really know. I'm not a computer expert.

But because I believe I don't need a good gpu for my purposes, that's why I am willing to spend as little money as possible on it, and get the best ram/cpu I can afford.

I have no idea why this is happening man. I'll test with the new gpu in a few days and see if that may be the cause of it. I guess if that's not it, since I'll be opening up the computer and doing things, I'll also try with less ram and see if it's a ram issue. Maybe one of the sticks is bad (even though they're less than 6 months old, purchased brand new.

EDIT: Here are the specs of the computer:

Power supply - 500W

SSD - SSD Kingston 240GB A400 Series 2.5&" SATA3 SSD A400 240GB, Kapacitet 240, 2, 5&", Interfejs SATA 3, TLC, Brzina čitanja 500 MB/s, Brzina zapisivanja 350 MB/s

CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, 6 Core (3,6GHz/4,2GHz turbo), 12 Threads, 3MB L2 cashe, 16MB L3 cache, 95W, Wraith Spire Cooler (AM4)

RAM - Kingston DIMM DDR4 32GB (2x16GB kit) 3200MHz HX432C18FBK2/32 HyperX Fury (and another 16GB the same)

Motherboard - Gigabyte B450 AORUS Pro, AMD B450, VGA by CPU, 3xPCI-Ex16, 4xDDR4, 2xM,2, DVI/HDMI/USB3,1(Gen2)/USB Type-C, ATX (Socket AM4)

GPU - Msi Nvidia Geforce GT210 1gb ddr3 vga/dvi/hdmi

 

[alonelywriter]

I don't need a good gpu. I'm not doing anything graphics related on the computer, neither do I plan to in the future. But that's just my opinion. All I do is run as many Firefox browsers as I can on the computer, and they visit websites on autopilot. There are no games, no other programs, nothing at all on the computer that requires a good gpu. I wasn't even gonna get a gpu if I didn't need one to get display on the monitor.

But that's just my amateur opinion that I don't need a good gpu, I don't really actually really know. I'm not a computer expert.

But because I believe I don't need a good gpu for my purposes, that's why I am willing to spend as little money as possible on it, and get the best ram/cpu I can afford.

I have no idea why this is happening man. I'll test with the new gpu in a few days and see if that may be the cause of it. I guess if that's not it, since I'll be opening up the computer and doing things, I'll also try with less ram and see if it's a ram issue. Maybe one of the sticks is bad (even though they're less than 6 months old, purchased brand new.

brah its not about if you play games. Pcs that run all the time. do requires GPU
GPU is an integral part of PC if your computer is working hard non stop.
Its not an opinion just a common understanding from my part that every pc requires a GPU even if it is a smaller one

Gud luck though hope your issue gets resolved.

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

brah its not about if you play games. Pcs that run all the time. do requires GPU
GPU is an integral part of PC if your computer is working hard non stop.
Its not an opinion just a common understanding from my part that every pc requires a GPU even if it is a smaller one

Gud luck though hope your issue gets resolved.

See my last reply, I edited it and included my specs, so you can see what the computer has.

Yeah of course it needs a gpu, I never said no gpu. I just said that I believe I don't need a good gpu for my purposes. I could be wrong.

 

[alonelywriter]

See my last reply, I edited it and included my specs, so you can see what the computer has.

Yeah of course it needs a gpu, I never said no gpu. I just said that I believe I don't need a good gpu for my purposes. I could be wrong.

In your PC everything is like overkill

Except this : Msi Nvidia Geforce GT210 1gb ddr3 vga/dvi/hdmi

its just like GPU is a lvl 1 player in front of the all the other specs as lvl. 100 bosses

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

Did you picked up a random GPU?????

I just realized your asked me this twice and I didn't answer it.

No I didn't pick it at random. I put together the computer I wanted, and I had a guy who sold me my last gpu hear the specs and recommend a CHEAP/affordable gpu for me. He gave me this one. Another member here on the forum confirmed it's ok.

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

In your PC everything is like overkill

Except this : Msi Nvidia Geforce GT210 1gb ddr3 vga/dvi/hdmi

its just like GPU is a lvl 1 player in front of the all the other specs as lvl. 100 bosses

Yeah I know

It's because I operate under the assumption that I don't need a good gpu because I don't do anything that requires a good gpu. I mean, fuck, even on my browsers I have images disabled so they don't load. I could be wrong, I just think I don't need a good gpu.

In fat, when I was putting together that computer I thought the motherboard had an integrated gpu. Then when the computer arrived and I put it all together, I couldn't get it to display on the monitor. Then I was told either that the motherboard has no gpu, or that ryzen requires an extra gpu to work (integrated won't work). I don't remember what it was exactly. But anyway at that point I had to buy some gpu, and I took a crappy cheap one just to get the computer to display on a monitor. And that's how I ended up with that gpu