Jibri Wright
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- Jul 17, 2019
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Hey guys! I thought that I may throw a few insights you guys' way as to what may be causing you so many issues. Now this isn't a guide as to how to get OVER the issues, but hopefully it sends some of you guys onto the right track to figuring it out. It is important that you discover and define your own methods to get around these hurdles and NOT SHARE YOUR METHODS WITH ANYONE. Otherwise it's gonna be some ish for you down the road
FIRST OFF - THE TWO MAJOR CATEGORIES
I'm gonna try to split this post into the two major things involving an account's lifespan. Those two major things are the way the account was created, and the way the account is run. These two things are extremely vital to the success of your accounts. You won't get very far if one of the two aren't as clean as possible. BOTH need to be well-planned and as perfect as you can get them, patching any and all potential holes.
ACCOUNT CREATION
The creation of an account is vital to its health. This is because you want that initial trust score to be as high as possible off jump. How do you do this? Well in order to do this, you really have to think through what's happening when someone makes an account.
HIGHEST TRUST SCORE POSSIBLE
The highest trust scores awarded to accounts by Instagram are accounts that are made from brand new users. How do I know this? Because Instagram's goal is to make new users' first experience on the platform as enjoyable as possible to get them to keep coming back. So now that you know this, really think about what happens the first time a new user signs up to Instagram. Once the new user downloads the app, they open the app on their phone, immediately gets asked to put in their phone number, puts in their credentials then begin to upload photos and change their bio, etc. right? Well there's actually more to this than you might think.
BREAKDOWN:
The first thing someone does is install the app. This means that the device has never been logged or tracked before by Instagram in any way, shape, form, or fashion. At the same time however, there is no information being withheld from the app. All the information the app wishes to gather from the device the application usually has free reign to harvest. If it can't gather this information, that's a red flag off rip.
After the app is installed, most new users put in their number immediately. Not only that, but this phone number's country code usually matches with the country the IP address this account is made on. To go even further, the geolocation of the phone usually matches with the geolocation of the IP address(on residential and datacenter this is especially important and need to match EXACTLY)
After this, the user will most likely write a bio, put in their email address, yadayada and then upload pictures. All of this information is usually unique, EVEN THE PICTURES. Meaning the pictures have unique metadata, unique names and hashes, and when run through a comparison algorithm they have a low chance of getting a 100% similarity score with any other picture on Instagram. Another thing is that IG wants people to upload more.
TRACKS YOU NEED TO COVER:
First off, you need to figure out a way to make accounts directly through the app at this point, especially if you want the highest score possible. The issue is that you can't make them on the same device with the same app. Also you need to allow the application to harvest the data it wants off of the device. So now think about this, is there some way possible to create entirely new mobile devices and install the Instagram app onto them? If so how?
Next, you need to find a way to match the IP address' geolocation with the geolocation of the device. Also you may need to "proxify" the entire device. Whether run through a datacenter, residential, or mobile proxy, phones usually run their entire system processes through the IP they're connected to. How can you do this?
After that the country code of the number usually matches up with country the mobile device is currently in. How can you get it so that these match up?
And finally the photos and content uploaded initially are usually all unique. That means the metadata, hashes and names are all unique. Not only that but they all have a low comparison score with all other photos on IG. How can this be done?
One last thing is that IG favors accounts that post more. How can you manipulate this to your advantage when initially creating an account?
If you can figure out a way to get around all of the issues I stated above, your account creation should be ROCK-SOLID, and your accounts should be able to get extremely high trust scores out the gate (jeez excuse my slang smdh).
ACCOUNT AUTOMATION
The biggest issue with account automation isn't the software you're using. Jarvee, FollowLiker, and MassPlanner are all still very well-equipped to run automation on Instagram. It truly isn't their fault in the slightest. Also you guys are saying that the accounts have to be run like a human. While this is important, it's only a fraction of the issue. The proxies you use are also of some importance, but not the main issue here. These things are only a part of the whole, and placing all of your issues on these will drive you crazy because they aren't the main issue. The main problem is the way IG runs in general.
AUTOMATION'S BIGGEST WEAKNESS:
You guys know those little things that tell you when an account was last active on Instagram? Like it says next to their avatar "Active (x) minutes ago" or something around that nature? Well the way Instagram tracks that information is through the app or browser the account is being used on. And that is tracked through actually OPENING the Instagram app or logging onto the browser. The biggest weakness with the automation software we use is that they make API calls directly to Instagram's server instead of through the app or browser.
Because of this, Instagram will ALWAYS KNOW whether an account is using automation or not no matter what. This isn't the automation software's fault, as embedding the app in the code would require embedding the correct operating system for the application and running it on a virtual device, all through the required proxy. Running just two accounts would eat up almost all of your RAM. This however is a huge hurdle that can definitely be circumvented with clever thinking and a little programming. Jarvee, FollowLiker, etc. DO NOT LEAVE FOOTPRINTS as everyone on here have been speculating. If you're a developer or programmer and did some prying into how these softwares work, you'll understand why it's not even possible for them to leave footprints in the first place!
ACCOUNT PHONE VERIFICATION:
Because of the main issue stated above, you're most likely going to get a phone verification down the line. And the way you react to the phone verification will determine if an account is going to survive or if it's days are numbered. When a normal user gets a phone verification, what do they do? They verify it IMMEDIATELY! They don't wait, they verify it within the first 45 minutes. Most likely with the same area code they originally made the account with. AND through the same proxy their account usually runs on. The thing is that when an account goes down the automation software does not stop all automation. It usually tries again after a bit of time. Not only that, but you may not check your software in time to know there's an issue. By then the account is 3-4 hours into a phone verification screen. THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE.
TRACKS YOU NEED TO COVER:
So I'm gonna state the obvious, first off YES 4G proxies should be used for automation. YES you have to mimic a human's actions. If you don't have these two things down then why have you not been reading the rest of the posts in this forum?
You need to find out a way where your accounts can be physically logged into and actions can be performed so IG can track their little "Last Active" information that they love, and still have it on the exact same proxy you run the account on. I wouldn't recommend doing it by hand, perhaps there's a program you could write that does it for you?(I could help with this or possibly even give you the script I wrote, but I would say program your own so that you're using a different method)
You also need to find a way so that you know WITHIN 15 MINUTES when an account goes down due to PV so you can verify it. And then also verify it with the same country code that correlates with the proxy the account is being run on. Possibly a script that sends notifications to your phone so you know when to verify. How can this be done?(Again, could help you write a script for this, but you should definitely just write your own)
Finding ways around these hurdles will KEEP your account as healthy as a...as healthy as an animal we usually associate with perfect health
FINAL THINGS:
For one, DON'T EXPECT THINGS TO GET BETTER. Instagram isn't gonna magically make it easier for you to automate again. And other social media platforms are following suit fast. You're going to need to understand how everything operates on a deeper level if you want to continue doing this or do this for another social media platform in the future. LEARN, LEARN, LEARN!! The pros at this don't use websites like this and DEFINITELY don't help on websites like this. In fact I would say a lot of the users on this forum are in the same boat. It's cool to have hunches as to why things work and why they don't but nothing beats KNOWING WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON.
Also, PLEASE DON'T SHARE SOLUTIONS TO THESE ISSUES IN THIS POST! This is a "public" forum after all (and I use the term public loosely because BHW has some rules and restrictions in place I find ENTIRELY ludacris for a "public" forum). Everything you say here IS being watched by Instagram. If anything I would say PM each other, let's all find a way to meet up on Skype. Heck, anything that has even an ounce of privacy is TEN TIMES BETTER than posting on here!!
IMPORTANT, if you do find a method that works for you, DO NOT POST THE METHOD ON THIS FORUM. I PROMISE YOU the likes or upvotes or whatever you get on here for sharing information is NOT as valuable as a WORKING METHOD. Hell if anything I could make multiple accounts on here and give myself as many upvotes as I wanted and you can do the same! KNOWLEDGE IS POWER, learn how to wield it, and especially protect it!
And no, BOTTING ISN'T DEAD you just have to be well-equipped to understand what you're doing and what's truly happening. I believe I've said a similar thing on this forum before, but you guys not knowing how software works and how to program is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. You're just swinging the knife around hoping you'll hit something while the people with guns are mowing you down one after the other. TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING!!
The last thing I have to say is that in times of disparity, that's usually when the greatest transfer of wealth happens. That's because there are always those few people who find a way to make the impossible possible. What side are you gonna fall on? Laters
FIRST OFF - THE TWO MAJOR CATEGORIES
I'm gonna try to split this post into the two major things involving an account's lifespan. Those two major things are the way the account was created, and the way the account is run. These two things are extremely vital to the success of your accounts. You won't get very far if one of the two aren't as clean as possible. BOTH need to be well-planned and as perfect as you can get them, patching any and all potential holes.
ACCOUNT CREATION
The creation of an account is vital to its health. This is because you want that initial trust score to be as high as possible off jump. How do you do this? Well in order to do this, you really have to think through what's happening when someone makes an account.
HIGHEST TRUST SCORE POSSIBLE
The highest trust scores awarded to accounts by Instagram are accounts that are made from brand new users. How do I know this? Because Instagram's goal is to make new users' first experience on the platform as enjoyable as possible to get them to keep coming back. So now that you know this, really think about what happens the first time a new user signs up to Instagram. Once the new user downloads the app, they open the app on their phone, immediately gets asked to put in their phone number, puts in their credentials then begin to upload photos and change their bio, etc. right? Well there's actually more to this than you might think.
BREAKDOWN:
The first thing someone does is install the app. This means that the device has never been logged or tracked before by Instagram in any way, shape, form, or fashion. At the same time however, there is no information being withheld from the app. All the information the app wishes to gather from the device the application usually has free reign to harvest. If it can't gather this information, that's a red flag off rip.
After the app is installed, most new users put in their number immediately. Not only that, but this phone number's country code usually matches with the country the IP address this account is made on. To go even further, the geolocation of the phone usually matches with the geolocation of the IP address(on residential and datacenter this is especially important and need to match EXACTLY)
After this, the user will most likely write a bio, put in their email address, yadayada and then upload pictures. All of this information is usually unique, EVEN THE PICTURES. Meaning the pictures have unique metadata, unique names and hashes, and when run through a comparison algorithm they have a low chance of getting a 100% similarity score with any other picture on Instagram. Another thing is that IG wants people to upload more.
TRACKS YOU NEED TO COVER:
First off, you need to figure out a way to make accounts directly through the app at this point, especially if you want the highest score possible. The issue is that you can't make them on the same device with the same app. Also you need to allow the application to harvest the data it wants off of the device. So now think about this, is there some way possible to create entirely new mobile devices and install the Instagram app onto them? If so how?
Next, you need to find a way to match the IP address' geolocation with the geolocation of the device. Also you may need to "proxify" the entire device. Whether run through a datacenter, residential, or mobile proxy, phones usually run their entire system processes through the IP they're connected to. How can you do this?
After that the country code of the number usually matches up with country the mobile device is currently in. How can you get it so that these match up?
And finally the photos and content uploaded initially are usually all unique. That means the metadata, hashes and names are all unique. Not only that but they all have a low comparison score with all other photos on IG. How can this be done?
One last thing is that IG favors accounts that post more. How can you manipulate this to your advantage when initially creating an account?
If you can figure out a way to get around all of the issues I stated above, your account creation should be ROCK-SOLID, and your accounts should be able to get extremely high trust scores out the gate (jeez excuse my slang smdh).
ACCOUNT AUTOMATION
The biggest issue with account automation isn't the software you're using. Jarvee, FollowLiker, and MassPlanner are all still very well-equipped to run automation on Instagram. It truly isn't their fault in the slightest. Also you guys are saying that the accounts have to be run like a human. While this is important, it's only a fraction of the issue. The proxies you use are also of some importance, but not the main issue here. These things are only a part of the whole, and placing all of your issues on these will drive you crazy because they aren't the main issue. The main problem is the way IG runs in general.
AUTOMATION'S BIGGEST WEAKNESS:
You guys know those little things that tell you when an account was last active on Instagram? Like it says next to their avatar "Active (x) minutes ago" or something around that nature? Well the way Instagram tracks that information is through the app or browser the account is being used on. And that is tracked through actually OPENING the Instagram app or logging onto the browser. The biggest weakness with the automation software we use is that they make API calls directly to Instagram's server instead of through the app or browser.
Because of this, Instagram will ALWAYS KNOW whether an account is using automation or not no matter what. This isn't the automation software's fault, as embedding the app in the code would require embedding the correct operating system for the application and running it on a virtual device, all through the required proxy. Running just two accounts would eat up almost all of your RAM. This however is a huge hurdle that can definitely be circumvented with clever thinking and a little programming. Jarvee, FollowLiker, etc. DO NOT LEAVE FOOTPRINTS as everyone on here have been speculating. If you're a developer or programmer and did some prying into how these softwares work, you'll understand why it's not even possible for them to leave footprints in the first place!
ACCOUNT PHONE VERIFICATION:
Because of the main issue stated above, you're most likely going to get a phone verification down the line. And the way you react to the phone verification will determine if an account is going to survive or if it's days are numbered. When a normal user gets a phone verification, what do they do? They verify it IMMEDIATELY! They don't wait, they verify it within the first 45 minutes. Most likely with the same area code they originally made the account with. AND through the same proxy their account usually runs on. The thing is that when an account goes down the automation software does not stop all automation. It usually tries again after a bit of time. Not only that, but you may not check your software in time to know there's an issue. By then the account is 3-4 hours into a phone verification screen. THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE.
TRACKS YOU NEED TO COVER:
So I'm gonna state the obvious, first off YES 4G proxies should be used for automation. YES you have to mimic a human's actions. If you don't have these two things down then why have you not been reading the rest of the posts in this forum?
You need to find out a way where your accounts can be physically logged into and actions can be performed so IG can track their little "Last Active" information that they love, and still have it on the exact same proxy you run the account on. I wouldn't recommend doing it by hand, perhaps there's a program you could write that does it for you?(I could help with this or possibly even give you the script I wrote, but I would say program your own so that you're using a different method)
You also need to find a way so that you know WITHIN 15 MINUTES when an account goes down due to PV so you can verify it. And then also verify it with the same country code that correlates with the proxy the account is being run on. Possibly a script that sends notifications to your phone so you know when to verify. How can this be done?(Again, could help you write a script for this, but you should definitely just write your own)
Finding ways around these hurdles will KEEP your account as healthy as a...as healthy as an animal we usually associate with perfect health
FINAL THINGS:
For one, DON'T EXPECT THINGS TO GET BETTER. Instagram isn't gonna magically make it easier for you to automate again. And other social media platforms are following suit fast. You're going to need to understand how everything operates on a deeper level if you want to continue doing this or do this for another social media platform in the future. LEARN, LEARN, LEARN!! The pros at this don't use websites like this and DEFINITELY don't help on websites like this. In fact I would say a lot of the users on this forum are in the same boat. It's cool to have hunches as to why things work and why they don't but nothing beats KNOWING WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON.
Also, PLEASE DON'T SHARE SOLUTIONS TO THESE ISSUES IN THIS POST! This is a "public" forum after all (and I use the term public loosely because BHW has some rules and restrictions in place I find ENTIRELY ludacris for a "public" forum
). Everything you say here IS being watched by Instagram. If anything I would say PM each other, let's all find a way to meet up on Skype. Heck, anything that has even an ounce of privacy is TEN TIMES BETTER than posting on here!!IMPORTANT, if you do find a method that works for you, DO NOT POST THE METHOD ON THIS FORUM. I PROMISE YOU the likes or upvotes or whatever you get on here for sharing information is NOT as valuable as a WORKING METHOD. Hell if anything I could make multiple accounts on here and give myself as many upvotes as I wanted and you can do the same! KNOWLEDGE IS POWER, learn how to wield it, and especially protect it!
And no, BOTTING ISN'T DEAD
you just have to be well-equipped to understand what you're doing and what's truly happening. I believe I've said a similar thing on this forum before, but you guys not knowing how software works and how to program is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. You're just swinging the knife around hoping you'll hit something while the people with guns are mowing you down one after the other. TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING!!The last thing I have to say is that in times of disparity, that's usually when the greatest transfer of wealth happens. That's because there are always those few people who find a way to make the impossible possible. What side are you gonna fall on? Laters
