Fucking SMM Panels

[didiseo]

Providers are struggling to deliver numbers they used to be fine 1yr ago.

I don't feel we can just rant about SMM being bad. They must adapt their promises, yes. I do feel they keep old promises in a 'new world' where they can't live up to them.

There's a chain effect here:
###new IG patches
-> harder or impossible delivery for providers
--> SMM panels try keeping positive, but can't deliver
---> all us clients to SMM complain and rant about shit not working
----> our clients ask 'what's happening'? when seeing much less results

'Winter has come' and IG is the winner here. I just feel all involved in the chain need to adapt to new reality and face with truth, not false promises.

That said, the panel I use, is still working for my needs:
- I'm only using for IG/YT
- I always test small, had a few services not delivering, but didn't cry much about it, was only testing with minimum quantities
- I am finding services that work, but do pay for top priced now: what costed me $2/1000, now often over $3/1000

For my needs this is still an acceptable cost, but I understand for some it's just too much.

 

[iosifelxosari]

You are 101% right sir

 

[proxygo]

as long as its works, those still able to function while
others fall, i see no issue with price increase 2/3$ is minimal

 

[John242]

Another solution I have come across that may help some people here is you should break the order into parts. For example if a client orders 10,000 followers from you have a script that breaks the order into 500 followers, when that finishes process the next batch of 500.

This will also help with submitting a large order that never processes and the panel does not refund you. In this case you will take few dollar loss max instead of 10-20 dollars.

If you ever tested the panel IG services you will notice small orders process but large ones do not or if they do process they do not complete.

So are you saying drip feed 500 x 20 runs? Or some other specific way to order to accomplish this?

 

[Dangara]

I think a lot of us felt this in our souls. At the same time it's like being mad because your drug dealer keeps fucking you over yet you still got to go back. You either need to get a new drug dealer or go clean (start a new business)

This explains it perfectly. Don’t ask me how many times I’ve requested for refund because there was no delivery and guess what, never seen my cash again

 

[proxygo]

This explains it perfectly. Don’t ask me how many times I’ve requested for
refund because there was no delivery and guess what, never seen my cash again

if this happens on bhw - shit list the seller. period.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/dispute-resolution.31/

 

[Dangara]

if this happens on bhw - shit list the seller. period.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/dispute-resolution.31/

Not only on bhw but also on several others. Sadly tho, when everything looks perfect and the lack of support destroys the business.

 

[xWGx]

Providers are struggling to deliver numbers they used to be fine 1yr ago.

I don't feel we can just rant about SMM being bad. They must adapt their promises, yes. I do feel they keep old promises in a 'new world' where they can't live up to them.

There's a chain effect here:
###new IG patches
-> harder or impossible delivery for providers
--> SMM panels try keeping positive, but can't deliver
---> all us clients to SMM complain and rant about shit not working
----> our clients ask 'what's happening'? when seeing much less results

'Winter has come' and IG is the winner here. I just feel all involved in the chain need to adapt to new reality and face with truth, not false promises.

That said, the panel I use, is still working for my needs:
- I'm only using for IG/YT
- I always test small, had a few services not delivering, but didn't cry much about it, was only testing with minimum quantities
- I am finding services that work, but do pay for top priced now: what costed me $2/1000, now often over $3/1000

For my needs this is still an acceptable cost, but I understand for some it's just too much.

Things are much different when you do things on smaller scale.

'Few' services not delivering and didn't 'cry' about it.

Some of us generate 10k orders a day.

When a panel server goes down thats a shit ton of cash held as hostage.

What you are paying $3 per 1k for - I am buying for $5 per 1k as I prefer higher costs / stable servers too.

However, if service goes down even for a day - that generates a bucket load of orders that are stuck and a bucket load of clients that are unhappy.

Your 'tests' don't even make sense as all of us have also done tests. A server works fine at one time and doesn't at another time. I too test before I switch servers for my API to panels. Only to later find out it doesn't work anymore. That is when the issue begins.

Come back here when you are depositing $50k to $500k a month on panels and then you'll quickly see how fast the losses add up and perhaps then you can positively contribute to this issue. Thats when the unaccountability plays part which somehow you completely missed in the whole conversation. NO ONE IS A NOOB here. We all know the update and UNDERSTAND it. Top retailers don't bother the high price either. Its when the panels take the order under the 'INSTANT' label and hold it hostage for 3 days whilst not delivering. Thats when you hit losses of 5 figures a day due to double delivery.

No offense at all but this issue is impacting the mega retailers. Those that have network of sites. Communities where they have large bases of clients.

 

[didiseo]

NO ONE IS A NOOB here

No offense at all but this issue is impacting the mega retailers. Those that have network of sites. Communities where they have large bases of clients.

Completely understand it's a different story. You guys certainly have a completely different struggle and I know it. Not calling anyone noob. In principle, still SMM need to communicate effectively with you guys if they no longer can deliver old promises, that's my view.

These posts do scare a lot of users and sell a story SMM's don't work. I don't feel it's a bad idea to share my story, and I do know I'm a small volume customer, but hope others like myself realise they have a way.

They can work for small users and that's my story. No disrespect intended to large scale guys.

 

[Robyries]

Just want to.know who the main provider.. Got lot customer to serve

Cheers

 

[hyocca]

What's crazy is that for those who depended on the lower costing automated likes.. 0.20 per 1k.. really sufferred. the jump to $5 to 1k ruined the long term packages those client signed up for. oh well. really hope justice will be served.

 

[ets23]

my question is, why two weeks ago the situation seemed to be normalized and now the last couple of days look again like a mess? What is really happening? Is instagram banning their proxies or what else?

 

[L4x]

my question is, why two weeks ago the situation seemed to be normalized and now the last couple of days look again like a mess? What is really happening? Is instagram banning their proxies or what else?

I think its an action block... or proxy

 

[italianstarman]

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I am encouraging all the Marketplace mods, to test all the SMM panels - Mainly the fucking ones that are pinned as the “recommended” - “please read” at BHW.

This is a must! I think the mods should really test all the panel and shut down or delete the thread of the one who are cheating on us.

 

[proxygo]

then as i said b4 - open a shit list complaint
https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/dispute-resolution.31/

 

[sandan22ttt]

a lots complaints and 0 action from moderators... supeeer forum
if a moderator test all panes...he will see 99% services dont works(dont works what description say) a lots service are"INSTANT" and start after 4 days....all panels have yt subscribers with 100+ speed /day...but no one can deliver more than 25 subs/day....etc...99% services are scam

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

a lots complaints and 0 action from moderators... supeeer forum

Complaints are handled with proof in the shitlist subforum.

 

[sandan22ttt]

i suggest something...every one who have problems with panels, open a shitlist and all with same problem
will support him with proof...if this is only way to get rid of this crap panels

 

[3hlut]

Shitlist won't change anything.Once you tell them if they don't refund you will be forced to open a shitlist they mostly react and try to solve that issue so it won't get public.
The main issue is they first try to deliver with garbage quality which is basicly destroying your account hoping you will be ok with the delivered garbage.
So who is going to pay for the loss of the value of the account?

I mean if you get 10k likes from a specific asian country on a US account you can be sure this account won't look legit anymore.

Getting a refund for no delivery is one thing,what about destroying your valuable accounts?

 

[Mike George]

Totally agree with OP.

Panel owners need to update their services multiple times a day.

It will take 2-5 months to be as it was before the ig updates. (If no new updates happen)