SocialManager
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- Nov 26, 2018
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I have made multiple reports about this thread, and the action taken has not been satisfactory to me, and I feel it's time to move my concerns into the public eye.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/h...ements-request-sample-links-by-niche.1127960/
This marketplace thread is made by Leith, a Jr. Executive VIP member.
The rule violations: Bumping multiple times within 72 hour period, and violating the Marketplace Content Standards.
Marketplace rules - How To Post - Updated NO Sales thread bumping.
Members found to be bumping their thread (deleting a post and then reposting it AND / OR placing consecutive posts within a 72 hour period) will receive a 1 month ban and their Marketplace thread(s) will be removed.
Bumping clarified - What you cannot do and how to get around it:
1. Promote your Sales thread more than once every 72 hours, this includes putting an advert or coupon style text underneath your response to a question or responding to an order confirmation.
Leith is including an advert and coupon style image underneath his responses almost every 24 hours. By having a giant image that says "request samples below," he is encouraging users to bump his thread when most of them can just send him a private message, and it gives him an excuse to reply to people. The replies he makes are totally unnecessary. There is no need to quote people and tell them you sent them a sample. They are given notifications that they have a private message. The image has a text saying "10% off" with an outline around it as if you are supposed to cut off the 10% off and use it as a coupon in stores. There is no logical argument that this is not an advert or coupon style text.
On June 12 I made my first report, and it seems to have been actioned by MisterF, who deleted one of the posts, and gave a reminder to Leith about the rules. Leith thanked MisfterF for this reminder. This should have prompted Leith to read the marketplace rules, especially regarding bumping. So there is no excuse for this.
Marketplace Content Standards
This isn't the first thread I have made about this issue. I was told last time to hit the report button. I did that on June 12th, and whether it was an oversight or intentionally ignored, I don't know, but I do know that no action was taken.
Un-Quantifiable Claims
This is, in my understanding, a list of the type of claims that are not allowed to be used to describe a service in the marketplace.
"'We Are Better Than Our Competitors' Claims" - Right in the title, he claims the product is "WAY BETTER." How can you measure "way better?"
He goes on in his thread to imply that any vendor selling something called "niche edits" are selling hacked links. This may be true, but he has nothing to support such a claim. It is a direct attack on other marketplace sellers. If other marketplace sellers are selling hacked links, this is something that needs to be addressed immediately by the moderators and admins, in my opinion. What confuses me most, is that it seems he is actually selling what most of us would refer to as a "niche edit."
I wont put too much effort into my other concerns regarding sales talk that focuses too much on telling you these are the greatest links, for the best price, and definitely better than anyone else, because the clearest violations take place in his first response after his thread was approved. Maybe he did it intentionally knowing his first post would be less scrutinized than his actual sales thread?
In his "F.A.Q & Important Notes" he claims the following:
Our link placements are 100% safe - Violation of Marketplace standard "100%" and "Safe"
Are these link placements safe? Yes, our link placements are all on real, genuine websites. - Once again, describing such a black hat link building service as "Safe"
We’re certain our standards are the highest in the industry when it comes to reviewing potential sites. - "Adjectives Ending In "-est" and "We Are Better Than Our Competitors' Claims"
Again, I don't expect mods to be perfect. I can't imagine the number of reports they deal with. However, I also don't know what else to do when I make a clear report, and violations continue to take place. We are talking about a Jr Executive VIP member who already received a "warning" here.
I don't like singling out individuals, I don't want to make "enemies" of any kind. But we have rules that we all need to follow for the fair and respectable operation of the forum.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/h...ements-request-sample-links-by-niche.1127960/
This marketplace thread is made by Leith, a Jr. Executive VIP member.
The rule violations: Bumping multiple times within 72 hour period, and violating the Marketplace Content Standards.
Marketplace rules - How To Post - Updated NO Sales thread bumping.
Members found to be bumping their thread (deleting a post and then reposting it AND / OR placing consecutive posts within a 72 hour period) will receive a 1 month ban and their Marketplace thread(s) will be removed.
Bumping clarified - What you cannot do and how to get around it:
1. Promote your Sales thread more than once every 72 hours, this includes putting an advert or coupon style text underneath your response to a question or responding to an order confirmation.
Leith is including an advert and coupon style image underneath his responses almost every 24 hours. By having a giant image that says "request samples below," he is encouraging users to bump his thread when most of them can just send him a private message, and it gives him an excuse to reply to people. The replies he makes are totally unnecessary. There is no need to quote people and tell them you sent them a sample. They are given notifications that they have a private message. The image has a text saying "10% off" with an outline around it as if you are supposed to cut off the 10% off and use it as a coupon in stores. There is no logical argument that this is not an advert or coupon style text.
On June 12 I made my first report, and it seems to have been actioned by MisterF, who deleted one of the posts, and gave a reminder to Leith about the rules. Leith thanked MisfterF for this reminder. This should have prompted Leith to read the marketplace rules, especially regarding bumping. So there is no excuse for this.
Marketplace Content Standards
This isn't the first thread I have made about this issue. I was told last time to hit the report button. I did that on June 12th, and whether it was an oversight or intentionally ignored, I don't know, but I do know that no action was taken.
Un-Quantifiable Claims
This is, in my understanding, a list of the type of claims that are not allowed to be used to describe a service in the marketplace.
"'We Are Better Than Our Competitors' Claims" - Right in the title, he claims the product is "WAY BETTER." How can you measure "way better?"
He goes on in his thread to imply that any vendor selling something called "niche edits" are selling hacked links. This may be true, but he has nothing to support such a claim. It is a direct attack on other marketplace sellers. If other marketplace sellers are selling hacked links, this is something that needs to be addressed immediately by the moderators and admins, in my opinion. What confuses me most, is that it seems he is actually selling what most of us would refer to as a "niche edit."
I wont put too much effort into my other concerns regarding sales talk that focuses too much on telling you these are the greatest links, for the best price, and definitely better than anyone else, because the clearest violations take place in his first response after his thread was approved. Maybe he did it intentionally knowing his first post would be less scrutinized than his actual sales thread?
In his "F.A.Q & Important Notes" he claims the following:
Our link placements are 100% safe - Violation of Marketplace standard "100%" and "Safe"
Are these link placements safe? Yes, our link placements are all on real, genuine websites. - Once again, describing such a black hat link building service as "Safe"
We’re certain our standards are the highest in the industry when it comes to reviewing potential sites. - "Adjectives Ending In "-est" and "We Are Better Than Our Competitors' Claims"
Again, I don't expect mods to be perfect. I can't imagine the number of reports they deal with. However, I also don't know what else to do when I make a clear report, and violations continue to take place. We are talking about a Jr Executive VIP member who already received a "warning" here.
I don't like singling out individuals, I don't want to make "enemies" of any kind. But we have rules that we all need to follow for the fair and respectable operation of the forum.
