VALIDATING An Online Course Idea?

CanuckHat · Jul 24, 2018

How do I validate/test my info course? I want to make a $497 course about teaching people how to start a business in Dropshipping, Social Media Marketing Agency, or Influencer Marketing.

But I don't know:

A) Which idea would have demand

B) HOW to validate a course idea?

Do I have to create perhaps a "free chapter" and advertise it as a lead magnet on FB to assess demand? And if I was to target say drop shipping.. do I target people e.g. "looking for drop shipping, searching for drop shipping, etc"?

PS: Don't worry about whether I'm an authority or not as I have a solution for that. I am just trying to decide WHICH MMO NICHE to laser-focus and dominate first..

Wilson Grant Fisk · Jul 24, 2018

Check BHW to see which sections are popular, IG/Shopify method is very popular with noobs and GURUTARD's, look at posts by @PolarPo
Look in The Download Request Section for what people want.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/download-requests.39/
Look in The Download Section to see how to build a similar course and what content to cover.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/member-downloads.29/

CanuckHat · Jul 24, 2018

Asif WILSON Khan said:
Check BHW to see which sections are popular, IG/Shopify method is very popular with noobs and GURUTARD's, look at posts by @PolarPo
Look in The Download Request Section for what people want.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/download-requests.39/
Look in The Download Section to see how to build a similar course and what content to cover.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/member-downloads.29/

This is perfect, thanks. I agree with you that Shopify Dropshpping is probably almost ubituqous with MMO currently. All you see is GURUTARDS with their lambos and ocean views on Youtube videos (enter next shot: the inflated Shopify sales score)

With that said, it makes me think drop shipping is the most in-demand because its the "least barrier to entry" for noobs.. I mean.. throw up Shopify and AliExpress and Facebook.. you're on your way after testing and finding the best products.

Way easier then eCommerce where you have to buy inventory, etc.

Then again social media marketing agency seems easy too, but you need to close clients on the phone which may be daunting for noobs.

What do you mean "Instagram" as MMO? Do you mean being an Instagram Influencer and selling shout outs?

CanuckHat · Jul 24, 2018

This is my biggest challenge right now, before I go balls out on launching my blog + creating info product + partnering with authority + etc.

Challenge = deciding on the best MMO niche. Will find soon..

I mean, I'm starting to think all MMO Niches are sizeable enough to find a shit load of target customers and niche down on. Not just drop shipping. But drop shipping seems so saturated

BassTrackerBoats · Jul 24, 2018

CanuckHat said:
Challenge = deciding on the best MMO niche.

If you don't know then you probably don't have any business offering a course on it.

arlind- · Jul 24, 2018

BS Gurus are evergreen.

CanuckHat · Jul 24, 2018

BassTrackerBoats said:
If you don't know then you probably don't have any business offering a course on it.

Who cares? It will make money man. All I have to do is copy/paraphrase an existing course in the niche and sell it. Duh. That way, noobs get value and I get value.

All information is repackaged anyways, so I'm not exactly being an evil guy here.

I challenge you to go paraphrase some online course you bought + paraphrase it's landing page.. and drive traffic to sell it.

Easy $497 (and not to mention future upsells) every time.

Not being snarky either, genuinely saying it might be a good way for us to make big $.

BassTrackerBoats · Jul 24, 2018

CanuckHat said:
Who cares?

Those buying the course would.

Not being snarky either, genuinely saying it might be a good way for us to make big $.

Not sure who "us" is/are but just because something can make you good money does not mean it is a good idea.

Sherb · Jul 24, 2018

CanuckHat said:
Who cares? It will make money man. All I have to do is copy/paraphrase an existing course in the niche and sell it. Duh. That way, noobs get value and I get value.

All information is repackaged anyways, so I'm not exactly being an evil guy here.

I challenge you to go paraphrase some online course you bought + paraphrase it's landing page.. and drive traffic to sell it.

Easy $497 (and not to mention future upsells) every time.

Not being snarky either, genuinely saying it might be a good way for us to make big $.

And this is exactly why the market is flooded with garbage and internet marketing gets a bad name. Thanks for progressing that stereotype.

Degen · Jul 24, 2018

CanuckHat said:
Who cares? It will make money man. All I have to do is copy/paraphrase an existing course in the niche and sell it. Duh. That way, noobs get value and I get value.

All information is repackaged anyways, so I'm not exactly being an evil guy here.

I challenge you to go paraphrase some online course you bought + paraphrase it's landing page.. and drive traffic to sell it.

Easy $497 (and not to mention future upsells) every time.

Not being snarky either, genuinely saying it might be a good way for us to make big $.

Basically rehashing everything without adding value. Great job you are like the rest of them. You are not exactly ' the evil guy'. No you are far worse than that. Also stop treating your potential/future customers like garbage... It will help you A lot!

Also most communities (MMO) are quite tight. So your sales will be none existing if the guide gets out. Also that price is too high from a gamers point of view.( if you are going for that price.)

CanuckHat · Jul 25, 2018

BassTrackerBoats said:
Those buying the course would.

Not sure who "us" is/are but just because something can make you good money does not mean it is a good idea.

Think about it man, that same customer wouldn't get that same QUALITY Content that I got from a QUALITY Course if they hadn't found me. In a way, I'm simply spreading the QUALITY Content (Thus providing value). Sure, the guy who produced the quality content doesn't get paid... (Even though HE likely got that "Quality Content" from somewhere else too!), BUT at the end of the day... all that matters is the CUSTOMER gets the Quality Content in His/Her hands!

I understand you guys are hating on me for stealing and paraphrasing content. But surely you can't tell me that the customer doesn't get value out of me giving them quality content? Surely? If I need to take the hit for paraphrasing content that was already paraphrased in the first place, then so be it. But the customer gets value and I get paid, that's a good business outcome.

Stewielenor said:
Basically rehashing everything without adding value. Great job you are like the rest of them. You are not exactly ' the evil guy'. No you are far worse than that. Also stop treating your potential/future customers like garbage... It will help you A lot!

Also most communities (MMO) are quite tight. So your sales will be none existing if the guide gets out. Also that price is too high from a gamers point of view.( if you are going for that price.)

Look man, it's all about Marketing now. Not about product content. It's about who can get the most eyeballs on them and build a big enough audience to sell to. All the information you see in these Courses are available on the internet for free.

I'm not going for Gamers, what I meant by "MMO" is Make Money Online, which is the general term for the niche (sub niches are things like drop shipping, social media marketing agency, influence marketing, ecommerce, watch/phone/house flipping, etc).

Again, I'm not trying to be a dick as I respect you guys and your view points. Just saying that the customer gets value at the end of the day and I get paid. I feel a decent % of Blackhat would agree that's a good outcome, given we're not as "tight ass" as forums like Warrior Forum.

awesomewebsites · Jul 25, 2018

CanuckHat said:
Who cares? It will make money man. All I have to do is copy/paraphrase an existing course in the niche and sell it. Duh. That way, noobs get value and I get value.

All information is repackaged anyways, so I'm not exactly being an evil guy here.

I challenge you to go paraphrase some online course you bought + paraphrase it's landing page.. and drive traffic to sell it.

Easy $497 (and not to mention future upsells) every time.

Not being snarky either, genuinely saying it might be a good way for us to make big $.

You may get few sales with this approach. Will not succeed in long term. Should we talk about satisfaction ?

BassTrackerBoats · Jul 25, 2018

CanuckHat said:
I understand you guys are hating on me for stealing and paraphrasing content.

Nobody is actually hating on you but rather trying to share why this is really not a stellar idea.

given we're not as "tight ass" as forums like Warrior Forum.

Click to expand...

What you are proposing to offer is a WF idea actually... grab some info, rehash it, pretend it is yours and sell it.

Go ahead and do it; you are dead set on trying to get validation as you are dead set on doing it.

Do it.

Do it now.

CanuckHat · Jul 25, 2018

krishnaverma said:
You may get few sales with this approach. Will not succeed in long term. Should we talk about satisfaction ?

Enlighten me. Because if I'm taking Quality Content that people are already being SATISFIED by... then I'm pretty sure others will get SATISFIED too. Therefore, satisfaction is king. It's like you liking a Filet-o-Fish from McDonalds... and I just put it in a KFC container and call it a Kentucky Fish Burger. You're going to be SATISFIED by it either way, jack!

BassTrackerBoats said:
Nobody is actually hating on you but rather trying to share why this is really not a stellar idea.

What you are proposing to offer is a WF idea actually... grab some info, rehash it, pretend it is yours and sell it.

Go ahead and do it; you are dead set on trying to get validation as you are dead set on doing it.

Do it.

Do it now.

Wrong. WF would say the exact same thing about us that you just said. Believe me, I've been there and those folks don't take too kindly to us. Bunch of oldies that focus on "conservative" and "white hat" strategies which take years upon years to see success. Whereas, we're more edgy.

Anyways, I love you guys but I'm yet to see a solid argument to why this won't be a successful way to make money and satisfy customers. All I'm hearing is that I'm an asshole for doing it and that's totally fine with me.

I will do it!

Just thinking of a name right now, then I'll launch my blog, then I'll create the info product with some Authority and create a powerful funnel to get the customers from Social (IG Growth via S4S + Hashtags + Great Designed Content) to Website (Visitors via Valuable Free Content) to Leads (Email List via Lead Magnet) to Sales (Segmented Messages via Email Marketing)

Oh, and for the record I'm going to copy + rehash the above steps methods from my other successful competitors too.

Let's do what works guys.

In the words of Tony Robbins, "To be successful, you just have to re-model what's already successful" Or the words of Russel Brunson, "Just Funnel Hack your competitors".

Trying to add value with this post, so we're inspired to make money. I mean, that's the end goal right?

awesomewebsites · Jul 25, 2018

CanuckHat said:
Enlighten me. Because if I'm taking Quality Content that people are already being SATISFIED by... then I'm pretty sure others will get SATISFIED too. Therefore, satisfaction is king. It's like you liking a Filet-o-Fish from McDonalds... and I just put it in a KFC container and call it a Kentucky Fish Burger. You're going to like it either way, jack!

I meant your satisfaction doing this the way you mentioned. Do let us know after some time if you try.

BassTrackerBoats · Jul 25, 2018

CanuckHat said:
Oh, and for the record I'm going to copy + rehash the above steps methods from my other successful competitors too.

You don't have any competitors as you have not done anything.

Do it though.

Do it.

Do it now.

10zen · Jul 25, 2018

It should be along this line:
Have you tried some methods?
Did it make you money? Can it still make you money if you follow it?

If it makes you money then create the product about this method.
Sell it!

MMO method and validating the idea seems to be contradictory.

I think your focus should be to be validate the money making method you
trying to include in your course. Otherwise, you would only have high refund
rate.

CanuckHat · Jul 26, 2018

krishnaverma said:
I meant your satisfaction doing this the way you mentioned. Do let us know after some time if you try.

Dude, I don't understand you. I just explained my satisfaction. I'm happy that I'm going to make sales lmao. Anyone would.

BassTrackerBoats said:
You don't have any competitors as you have not done anything.

Do it though.

Do it.

Do it now.

Correcto and agreed. Launching my site ASAP along with the social channels.

10zen said:
It should be along this line:
Have you tried some methods?
Did it make you money? Can it still make you money if you follow it?

If it makes you money then create the product about this method.
Sell it!

MMO method and validating the idea seems to be contradictory.

I think your focus should be to be validate the money making method you
trying to include in your course. Otherwise, you would only have high refund
rate.

No high refund rates if the product is already well-selling with good reviews. (The one I paraphrase).

but I agree with you that no point validating an MMO method (eg. drop shipping course) if there's shit loads of drop shipping courses already out there doing well selling.

I think I need to validate NOT the MMO method.. and NOT the course content (as both are proven).

I need to validate the MARKETING STRATEGY. (Eg. Sales Funnel which I can copy from competitors, Customer Journey which I can AGAIN copy from competitors, etc). Only thing left to do is build the Audience RAPIDLY through Rapid Instagram Growth and drive that traffic into my website and into my funnel.

Give me a good 3 months of rapidly building the audience and I'll have an email list of at least 1K to sell like hell to and grow from. Baby! Just wait till I create a paid membership section after that too.

Anywho, I'm not reinventing the wheel with my concept. I'm going to funnel hack the biggest player in the niche in all aspects (course, content, social, funnel, lead magnet, etc). Just with BETTER Branding

Wish me luck. Already decided on a name + branding. Next step is to launch the blog and my first articles + social channels.

BassTrackerBoats · Jul 26, 2018

CanuckHat said:
Give me a good 3 months of rapidly building the audience and I'll have an email list of at least 1K to sell like hell to and grow from. Baby!

1 thousand?

Did you say one K?

Seriously?

Yeah, you are a gamer for sure.

Fake guru idea.
Rehash someone's course/ideas (Pure WF material, Baby!).
Thinking a list of 1,000 is anything.

Go get 'em, tiger.

Wilson Grant Fisk · Jul 26, 2018

BassTrackerBoats said:
1 thousand?

Did you say one K?

Seriously?

Yeah, you are a gamer for sure.

Fake guru idea.

Rehash someone's course/ideas (Pure WF material, Baby!).

Thinking a list of 1,000 is anything.

Go get 'em, tiger.

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