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That Outline article is very well written. The fact that Google has noted it will likely trickle down to a far stronger crackdown on paid editorial postings. Between this and the rampant noindex issue with large publications, that industry is sounding a death rattle. Thoughts?
 
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I think that businesses who can afford to pay 4 digits for mentions on top authorities have some real value, and G won't touch them. I think that G would not bother with these couple dozen links and invest time & money on investigation since there are thousands of PBNs, SAPE and other networks used by majorities (thousands), right?
 
This is the exact business model of all automotive magazines. What's the big deal? You pay someone to write an article favoring your product. They publish it. Their readers trust them for opinions.

The Advertorial has been around long before SEO...
 
I think that businesses who can afford to pay 4 digits for mentions on top authorities have some real value, and G won't touch them. I think that G would not bother with these couple dozen links and invest time & money on investigation since there are thousands of PBNs, SAPE and other networks used by majorities (thousands), right?

Making a hollow threat ("reminding publishers" to turn down "bribes") is basically free. Of course they're not actually going after paid guest posts. When done correctly, it's pretty fucking close to impossible to tell the difference algorithmically. Instead, spend just a little bit of money making dense threats about how you might get penalized, fired, or whatever and you'll get a great ROI -- random journalists don't actually understand SEO, which is what they're hoping for here.

And you're right about there being bigger (and easier) link building schemes to address. Search engines have to have some level of tolerance for spam in that "whitehat" and "blackhat" SEO are a huge fucking grey blur.

That Outline article is very well written. The fact that Google has noted it will likely trickle down to a far stronger crackdown on paid editorial postings. Between this and the rampant noindex issue with large publications, that industry is sounding a death rattle. Thoughts?

The "editorial link" ("""editorial""") industry is well and good because, really, it doesn't even fucking matter if it works for SEO because you can make more money https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/daily-reminder-that-the-huff-po-contributer-scam-is-still-a-thing.981352/ than you can selling a much, much larger number of these articles to people who are actually aware of their value (probably like $50-$100). Shitty editorial links will always thrive because the real money is in selling to people who don't know any better.

And the actual quality paid backlinks aren't going anywhere -- it's damn near impossible to detect them algorithmically, if not completely impossible. When done correctly, paid links (paid guest posts, basically) are exactly the same as "real" "whitehat" links.

Will Google do a crackdown? As I mentioned in reply to @samrichards, search engines are pretty limited in terms of what they can do to algorithmically stop these types of editorial links. They might make a big show and dance about a sting operation type of thing or whatever and be like "yo ho ho we're coming for your editorial links, mother fuckers!" But, really, that's just them waving their dicks around - it's cheap and easier to scare journalists.

This is the exact business model of all automotive magazines. What's the big deal? You pay someone to write an article favoring your product. They publish it. Their readers trust them for opinions.

The Advertorial has been around long before SEO...

This is also true. And the interesting thing is that paying for a feature story that happens to include a link back to your site is whitehat/"whitehat." According the official guidelines from Google, building links is only blackhat if it's done specifically to boost your rankings. If you just happen to pay for a story that just happens to include a link to your site but aren't doing it for SEO purposes, that's technically completely in line with the webmaster guidelines.

Which, incidentally, is one more reason why it's fucking impossible for Google to do any kind of meaningful crackdown/"crackdown" on paid link building.

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I'm still confused why people buy these links.

Unless you are trying to impress your clients or are using them as "social proof" to your audience, they are not anymore powerful or effective than creating your own network.

In fact, you will get more link juice from creating your own network and leaving the OBL less than 5 and keeping the post on the homepage. This way you save 5-10x the cost.

Of course people will argue with me about that because there's a lot of sellers making big bucks off these.
 
I'm still confused why people buy these links.

Unless you are trying to impress your clients or are using them as "social proof" to your audience, they are not anymore powerful or effective than creating your own network.

In fact, you will get more link juice from creating your own network and leaving the OBL less than 5 and keeping the post on the homepage. This way you save 5-10x the cost.

Of course people will argue with me about that because there's a lot of sellers making big bucks off these.
I'm fairly certain that 20, DA 10 - 20 links from Ma & Pa blogs are more powerful than most big blog links. I haven't tested enough to be 100%, though. You could get 20 for the price of 1 Forbes/HuffPost/etc as well. Could get it for free if you speak Native English and can negotiate well.

PBNs work well, but if you are good at negotiating, are A LOT more work than nailing down those DA 10 - 20 links.
 
I'm still confused why people buy these links.

Unless you are trying to impress your clients or are using them as "social proof" to your audience, they are not anymore powerful or effective than creating your own network.

In fact, you will get more link juice from creating your own network and leaving the OBL less than 5 and keeping the post on the homepage. This way you save 5-10x the cost.

Of course people will argue with me about that because there's a lot of sellers making big bucks off these.

I agree that lots of paid links are a waste of money. There are also plenty of good ones.

The main thing is that time is money. In a lot of cases, It can be better to rather pay more $$$, drop a link into some generic prewritten text, and send a guest post over to someone to publish than spend less total money but have to hunt down expired domains, register them, build the sites, create all the content, etc. Plus building your own network costs money and has maintenance costs.

A "real" guest post is also potentially safer than building a PBN. While of course a perfectly constructed PBN is safe, that requires that you take care to do a lot of things to make the site seem natural, whereas with a high quality guest post, it just is natural.

Guest posts (when compared to PBNs) can save tons of time in regards to micromanaging, especially in terms of future-proofing backlinks. As mentioned previously, an algorithmic update that targets paid backlinks on real/"real" sites is difficult if not close to impossible to implement, whereas a major algorithmic update that targets PBNs would be much more feasible.
 
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