Stuck on 2nd page despite having far better links

[DEFINE]

If you follow my posts or threads (or journey thread) then you would notice face similar problem.

Im on page 1 on good kw already but can't outrank "authority sites" that didnt even bother targeting the kw properly.

Google just put them there to make sure nobody will outrank authority sites with spam. Even if my/your site would be much more appropriate (as we targeted the exact KW people searcher for). They prefer safe-but-useless than fits-better-but-risky.

Theres a saying "Cant win them? Join them"

Translation:
Only chance to overcome it, it is to become authority site yourself.

These are NOT authority websites, but I get your point.

I can give you some free credits to crawl and analyze their backlinks using https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/linkquidator-n1-bad-links-removal-service-remove-10000-bad-links-for-free.918279/. We crawl backlinks directly (beside using ahfres and majestic), and we are not so known, so as a rule, no one restricts or hide links from our crawler. Maybe that will help you. If you are interested, please https://linkquidator.com/, and PM. I will add credentials.


They hide links not from Google, they hide their linkbuilding strategies, links donors, and referral domains from competitors.

Thanks for the offer, but I don't need it right now as my website started to get rankings to the first page. I guess it's just a matter of time then.

 

[MrshunE]

These are NOT authority websites, but I get your point.



Thanks for the offer, but I don't need it right now as my website started to get rankings to the first page. I guess it's just a matter of time then.

Let me understand this correctly, so your pages get unstuck from page 2 after 2 months plus?

 

[nodyguy]

I haven't read the whole thread, but did you try adding some topical relevance and maybe some social signals?

 

[DEFINE]

Let me understand this correctly, so your pages get unstuck from page 2 after 2 months plus?

Yeah, sounds about right.

I haven't read the whole thread, but did you try adding some topical relevance and maybe some social signals?

Did that, it moved after a while, finally. Not sure what's the real reason though.

 

[hippo123]

Are your PBN links generic?

 

[nakamura]

Same problem here. Dozens of keywords on #11-13 for about 1 1/2 months now. I will also try to add fresh content, some articles with internal links and then put some backlinks and social signals on them.

 

[MrshunE]

Yeah, sounds about right.



Did that, it moved after a while, finally. Not sure what's the real reason though.

Did you do anything to those pages? Like build supporting 4 - 5 supporting articles and link back to those pages.
Seems like I'm in the same scenario, my keywords keep bouncing between #12 - #15, but not page 1.

 

[DEFINE]

Are your PBN links generic?

Some yes, some no. I mixed them up - keyword, generic and naked URL.

Same problem here. Dozens of keywords on #11-13 for about 1 1/2 months now. I will also try to add fresh content, some articles with internal links and then put some backlinks and social signals on them.

Try that, sounds like a plan.

Did you do anything to those pages? Like build supporting 4 - 5 supporting articles and link back to those pages.
Seems like I'm in the same scenario, my keywords keep bouncing between #12 - #15, but not page 1.

Yup, added like 2-3 articles. Social signals, links, content and I guess time?

 

[hippo123]

@OP, I meant are your PBNs generic PBNs or are they topically relevant? Generic PBNs doesn't seem to have a good effect for me IMO.

 

[FORSAK3N]

Time for quality contextual links that will get click through to your site in a good neighborhood for your keywords. Let you site age, and wait. It takes about 90 days now to get on page one with a site 6+ months old

 

[thenwhat]

They could be using PBNs that block crawlers so you're not able to view those backlinks

 

[FORSAK3N]

Yes naked links - VERY relevant PBN content (so the bot better understands your site) remember tier 2, PBN, etc is ONLY there for the bot to better understand what your site is trying to say they are NOT going to help you rank better so throwing more at a site once the bot understands your site and gets you to page 3-5 is a waste and can hurt you ... it is time there to get social engagement clicks, relavant established sites linking to you around good content that applies to what you are trying to say to get your Trust up your trust is what is keeping you down now. google sees you and understands you they just do not know if they trust you yet to serve up your content to thousands of users ...

 

[FORSAK3N]

The more you try to game this with keyword links and more and more backlinks the more your trust is going to be hurt and Google backs away from you.

 

[DEFINE]

@OP, I meant are your PBNs generic PBNs or are they topically relevant? Generic PBNs doesn't seem to have a good effect for me IMO.

Hah, I'm an idiot, sorry. PBN some, but most of them are not (bought links), but articles are very relevant as for usual. Before you say anything, I want to mention that these are very low quality sites in the first page. I thought it would do the trick. And I think it's working, slowly.

Time for quality contextual links that will get click through to your site in a good neighborhood for your keywords. Let you site age, and wait. It takes about 90 days now to get on page one with a site 6+ months old

Yeah, time will tell.

They could be using PBNs that block crawlers so you're not able to view those backlinks

Yes naked links - VERY relevant PBN content (so the bot better understands your site) remember tier 2, PBN, etc is ONLY there for the bot to better understand what your site is trying to say they are NOT going to help you rank better so throwing more at a site once the bot understands your site and gets you to page 3-5 is a waste and can hurt you ... it is time there to get social engagement clicks, relavant established sites linking to you around good content that applies to what you are trying to say to get your Trust up your trust is what is keeping you down now. google sees you and understands you they just do not know if they trust you yet to serve up your content to thousands of users ...

Got some social signals, mixed them up.

Update:

I think did a good job after all, it was just a matter of time after that damn Fred update that slowed things down like crazy. Rankings are going up.

 

[MrshunE]

Can you recommend any social signals services? The one I bought so far are pretty garbage.

 

[DEFINE]

Can you recommend any social signals services? The one I bought so far are pretty garbage.

I used this one often.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/real-social-signals-fb-shares-likes-tweets-1s-pins-drip-feed-delivery-only-8.730134/

 

[rdz51214]

How long have you been on site?

 

[qwertzui11]

Check the image below. First 4 results have super bad links - social bookmarks, SPAM links, forum profile links, contextual links are almost non-existent... I built lots of links, contextual, follow/nofollow, PBN, social bookmarks, social signals, mixed anchors... and I'm stuck on 2nd page while these guys are ranking in the first 4 results.

Also, see how optimized is the whole first page.

I'm getting fed up with wasting time building good links and throwing money and then they rank with bullshit links. I was sure that I would rank without a problem if I did exactly what I did with my backlinks and on site optimization, but I was wrong. Any tips other than sending some powerful PBN links?

P.S. - I have more than 43 links, some of them are not indexed, some of them are not picked up by Keysearch.co (tool I used to get this).

Ok then. Forget about backlinks for now.

How many indexed page are you having in google?

Doesnt they have 2-3-4x bigger site than yours?

Check in google: "site:domain.com"

 

[DEFINE]

A fucking update.

Just got hit - Thin content with little or no added value

Websites above me have less content (most one pagers), more spammy links and they are ranking in top 3 while my site gets fucking hit. All the work I've done is now gone. Pretty frustrated at this point damn it.

 

[miyyahan]

You just need to be patient. Stop being aggressive with linkbuilding and improve your content quality to ensure your visitors would benefit.