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Stuck on 2nd page despite having far better links

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by DEFINE, Jul 28, 2017.

  1. DEFINE

    DEFINE Regular Member

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    Check the image below. First 4 results have super bad links - social bookmarks, SPAM links, forum profile links, contextual links are almost non-existent... I built lots of links, contextual, follow/nofollow, PBN, social bookmarks, social signals, mixed anchors... and I'm stuck on 2nd page while these guys are ranking in the first 4 results.

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    Also, see how optimized is the whole first page.

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    I'm getting fed up with wasting time building good links and throwing money and then they rank with bullshit links. I was sure that I would rank without a problem if I did exactly what I did with my backlinks and on site optimization, but I was wrong. Any tips other than sending some powerful PBN links?

    P.S. - I have more than 43 links, some of them are not indexed, some of them are not picked up by Keysearch.co (tool I used to get this).
     
  2. MatthewGraham

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    How old is your site?
     
  4. randybishop

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    How long have you been on 2nd page?
    is the other site a lot older?
     
  5. DEFINE

    DEFINE Regular Member

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    Site is 7 months old, I've been on second page for 2 months. Low competition keyword
     
  6. DEFINE

    DEFINE Regular Member

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    Might be, but their website is really poorly built and has thin content as well. I doubt that they blocked the crawlers, but it might be.
     
  7. Samurai-champloo

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    whats your site age? edit : oops
     
  8. skylimit

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    Don't lose your cool. Just do social media link and you would cross. They look simple but it works when you get stuck on page 2
     
  9. Tove

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    Try with topical relevance:
    - Add more content to page you're trying to rank, like 200 or 300 words but don't include keywords or optimize it
    - Add 3 or 4 topically related articles and link to your main page you're trying to rank and then build links to these supporting articles.
     
  10. joseph15

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    It's strange how similar our situations are - my site is even the same age as yours. How long ago did you build the links? Many people are experiencing that links take a lot longer to kick in than usual.
     
  11. Nam Hai

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    There are chances google marked your website as a black sheep.
    Black sheeps websites are those who actually get far more backlinks than everyone else.
    If this is the case, stop building more backlinks and wait some months
     
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  12. temp55

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    With "normal" SEO (building PBN, few guestposts, high DA profile links + social) in the past you would rank for 6 months number 1 spot for low competition kw. Today game is changed. Links are still No.1 but what also google pay attention now is user experience.
    Please check your competitors bounce rate, visit duration on site and their age.
     
  13. rl421403

    rl421403 Newbie

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    How? You can't see these without having access to their accounts.
     
  14. temp55

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    There are softwares that provide rough stats about competitors visit duration, bounce rate etc etc. These are not so accurate but still can help a little bit to figure out what is going on.
     
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    There is no tool that can provide bounce rate or visit duration. Not even a vague estimate. Because these 2 depends on quality of content and how engaging it is. If some website/tool is showing a number for these then they are pulling random numbers from their behinds.
     
  16. temp55

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    As I said, it's not accurate but still don't have a clue how they calculate it. For example, for one of my moneysites i bought traffic. It was a complete junk and bounce rate rise up to the sky. That tool recognized that and changed the stats too. BTW i don't have a clue how they gather intel like bounce rate, time on site etc etc.
     
  17. redarrow

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    I bet it socail engagement ?

    What there socail stats against yours?
     
  18. redarrow

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    What app are you on about for god sake .....
     
  19. phonestar

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    Name of softwares
     
  20. randybishop

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    If it's your site that is 7 months old you are gonna probably have to wait longer. Don't get impatient and try to get your site to the first page by throwing more links at it, it could do more harm than good. Build more content, super long content is the way to go, 2,000 + word articles. More words the better.
     
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