GOOGLE PLAY 2 YEARS OLD APP BASICALLY ALL RANK DROPPED, NEED ASO HELP!

[r3L4x]

For us only worked Youtube video promotion, we got 330+ views for 9 euros... So basically adwords is too expensive. When we started website business, I asked my friend about this, he say don`t put there money! Because it will gonna cost you 10k euros every month until you feel something.

I think Adwords is okay if you sell paid apps, books, movies or music. So you basically pay huge money to adwords and get back from selling product. In dating nishe you earn by vips and ads, ads is from other networks because like I said adsense and admob won't let dating sites to earn, so in this case you earn lesser amount money from ads...

Simply counting, you order adsense ads for app installs: you put 0.10 euro cents per install, so you need 7k daily installs 0.10 x 7000 = 700 euros in day... In month, 700 x 30 = 21 000 euros in month you will pay to adwords... Getting 7k installs you will earn 4-5k euros in month. So where is point when advertising cost 4 times more than you will get?

 

[therealrio]

do you need to boost the ranking of your app, pm me for keyword based real app installs including geo targetting.

we also sell reviews

 

[ma790]

Lol....real keyword installs....Just another bot service...

 

[therealrio]

Lol....real keyword installs....Just another bot service...

we give device id too

 

[r3L4x]

It is not worth to buy installs...

1) You need to have huge amount of money to buy.
2) You need 5-10k installs daily to get up. So cost for one install is about 10 cents...
3) After you get one install, 3-5 days they will delete app and you will lose that install
4) Your ranks cant drop like our from nowhere, so you will gonna spend money to air.

Our app had real daily 7k installs, and it just dropped from newere, to 700...


What is best option of spending money for app ranks?

1) Buy tools and analyze keywords.
2) Make nice ASO name, small description, and long.
3) Buy or make nice icon, nice future, nice phone screens.
4) Do all tips from google play.

Wait one or 2 weeks. If it is new app, wait one month.

5) Translate name, small description and long to all languages possible languages. (This cost a lot money)
6) Make more icons, screens and future, for testing in experiments.
7) Choose best icons, future and screens.
8) Buy or make nice 7 and 10 inch tab screens with explanation of app.
9) Choose top 10 countries that use and install your app.
10) Make of that country's localized screens. (Buy translation)
11) Order cheapest ads in adword, set 1-2 centers for install. (Even if you set lowes daily budget it still sometimes show app in ads)
12) Make nice youtube video.

Later

13) Choose nice youtube seo, add app link in description of video.
14) Make Facebook, Twitter, Google+, pages or groups.
15) Order Facebook ads or buy likes.
16) Try to make backlinks for app.
17) Search where to promote your app, for normal price.

 

[r3L4x]

So still at the bottom... 600+ daily installs.

Tried 50 different descriptions and names...
Tried long profesional aso description that cost 50 usd...
Tried adding localized screens...
Tried new future, promo and tv...
Tried new better icon...

Nothing helps, app is just at bottom because we lost 6+ main keywords. We whose from 1 to 5 place by that keywords. Now it is not possible to find app by that keywords... They just disappeared... We even tried to copy-paste everything from other app, same thing our app not aperes by keywords...Searchman cannot find our app... App Annie finds only keywords, but it cannot find country rank. Google answer we still ranking good.

 

[Pratik701]

So still at the bottom... 600+ daily installs.

Tried 50 different descriptions and names...
Tried long profesional aso description that cost 50 usd...
Tried adding localized screens...
Tried new future, promo and tv...
Tried new better icon...

Nothing helps, app is just at bottom because we lost 6+ main keywords. We whose from 1 to 5 place by that keywords. Now it is not possible to find app by that keywords... They just disappeared... We even tried to copy-paste everything from other app, same thing our app not aperes by keywords...Searchman cannot find our app... App Annie finds only keywords, but it cannot find country rank. Google answer we still ranking good.

Same problem, Now I'm going to Upload App Again with New package name and few modifications.

 

[r3L4x]

Another test. Today we tried.

App name: Adult Dating
Small description: Adult Dating
Long description: Best Adult Dating app.

App didin`t apered by keiword: Adult Dating...

 

[r3L4x]

Nothing helps, tryed everything...

 

[Alex Brown]

So still at the bottom... 600+ daily installs.

Tried 50 different descriptions and names...
Tried long profesional aso description that cost 50 usd...
Tried adding localized screens...
Tried new future, promo and tv...
Tried new better icon...

Nothing helps, app is just at bottom because we lost 6+ main keywords. We whose from 1 to 5 place by that keywords. Now it is not possible to find app by that keywords... They just disappeared... We even tried to copy-paste everything from other app, same thing our app not aperes by keywords...Searchman cannot find our app... App Annie finds only keywords, but it cannot find country rank. Google answer we still ranking good.

Hello! You don't need to buy 5k installs daily to reach top positions. 1k installs daily, maybe a little bit more would be enough for an old app to get to top positions. The fact that user deletes the app does not influence ranks - this i can tell you from our experience of promoting lots of different apps. We provide android incent traffic of high quality. We could discuss all the questions in skype karen.rendall_1 if you are interested. Our site is keyapp.top. Check that out! Have a nice day!

 

[r3L4x]

We checked your website. 1k installs is 90 usd, if it is targeted it is 160 usd. So for one month is from 3k to 6k usd for this installs...

After that there is no guarantee that this will help... Because we were getting 6-7k real daily installs, 2017 Apr 30 it dropped from 7k to 3.5k... 2017 May 1 from 3.5k to 700.

So we lost all ranks in 2 days, it is not normal, now we are getting all month from 700 to 300+ daily installs.

From now we understand one thing there is no point in investing money in advertising, because you can lose everything any day by google play search algorithm change.

Funniest thing that on analyzing some competitors they rank rized not normal, 10-20 keywords from 180 to 250 positions. D It is google's fault, there is no normal competition, old developers start new dating apps because they have money and they know that niche well. They buy 20-40k reviews for 10-20k usd and their app starts to rise too fast, in 4-5 months they hit million with new app, and that new app repays money invested in to reviews... And then it goes like this.

Example: Jaumo
1) Main app made all profits: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jaumo&hl=en

THIS OTHER APPS THEY MADE THIS YEAR'S
2) Next app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jaumo.prime&hl=en
3) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pinkapp&hl=en
4) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jaumo.lesbian&hl=en
5) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jaumo.gay&hl=en

There is just no point working in 2017 on mobile apps if you don't sit on bag of money...

 

[dollarteam]

You can still buy reviews? I thought Google remove purchased reviews?

 

[r3L4x]

You can still buy reviews? I thought Google remove purchased reviews?

It is illegal by google policy.

 

[Alex Brown]

We checked your website. 1k installs is 90 usd, if it is targeted it is 160 usd. So for one month is from 3k to 6k usd for this installs...

After that there is no guarantee that this will help... Because we were getting 6-7k real daily installs, 2017 Apr 30 it dropped from 7k to 3.5k... 2017 May 1 from 3.5k to 700.

So we lost all ranks in 2 days, it is not normal, now we are getting all month from 700 to 300+ daily installs.

From now we understand one thing there is no point in investing money in advertising, because you can lose everything any day by google play search algorithm change.

Funniest thing that on analyzing some competitors they rank rized not normal, 10-20 keywords from 180 to 250 positions. D It is google's fault, there is no normal competition, old developers start new dating apps because they have money and they know that niche well. They buy 20-40k reviews for 10-20k usd and their app starts to rise too fast, in 4-5 months they hit million with new app, and that new app repays money invested in to reviews... And then it goes like this.

Example: Jaumo
1) Main app made all profits: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jaumo&hl=en

THIS OTHER APPS THEY MADE THIS YEAR'S
2) Next app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jaumo.prime&hl=en
3) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pinkapp&hl=en
4) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jaumo.lesbian&hl=en
5) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jaumo.gay&hl=en

There is just no point working in 2017 on mobile apps if you don't sit on bag of money...

I understand what you mean. Yes, promotion requires some spending but as for us, our service is very loyal and gives opportunities to spend less or even earn some money. We have bonuses for payments and a free bonus program. You can earn for your promotion using our referral program which is just to give your ref.link to other people who are interested in this. Your case is really interesting. We know that there's always ups and downs on google market, but you situation is a dramatic one. Also if for some reason campaigns are not successful a decent company is always ready to help and refund money for a bad promotion. So it's not like there's no way out if you don't have a huge bag of money.

Thank you for this topic and sharing your experience! Really appreciate it!

 

[r3L4x]

I understand what you mean. Yes, promotion requires some spending but as for us, our service is very loyal and gives opportunities to spend less or even earn some money. We have bonuses for payments and a free bonus program. You can earn for your promotion using our referral program which is just to give your ref.link to other people who are interested in this. Your case is really interesting. We know that there's always ups and downs on google market, but you situation is a dramatic one. Also if for some reason campaigns are not successful a decent company is always ready to help and refund money for a bad promotion. So it's not like there's no way out if you don't have a huge bag of money.

Thank you for this topic and sharing your experience! Really appreciate it!

Your system is not right, because you target to ritch app developers, that can spend a lot of money. I talked about this before, you give minimum 50 daily installs.

So If somebody orders 150 installs, 100 ratings and 50 reviews. Your system just throws 50 installs, 30 ratings and about 18 reviews in one day. That triggers google's algorithm and google just deleted all ratings and reviews, because google robot monitors all apps review. If app is getting 2-3 in day review and then it rises to 15-20 in day, robot realizes that this is not normal and reviews is just deleted...

So don't be greedy and let people choose how much reviews or installs they want to get in day, now 50 minimum cap is not right...

 

[Alex Brown]

Your system is not right, because you target to ritch app developers, that can spend a lot of money. I talked about this before, you give minimum 50 daily installs.

So If somebody orders 150 installs, 100 ratings and 50 reviews. Your system just throws 50 installs, 30 ratings and about 18 reviews in one day. That triggers google's algorithm and google just deleted all ratings and reviews, because google robot monitors all apps review. If app is getting 2-3 in day review and then it rises to 15-20 in day, robot realizes that this is not normal and reviews is just deleted...

So don't be greedy and let people choose how much reviews or installs they want to get in day, now 50 minimum cap is not right...

Hello! As i said there's lots of possibilities for developers and not just rich. We have lot's of clients who have a limited budget and still we manage to cooperate. I would also like to emphasize your attention on the fact that you can promote your app with keyword installs without rates\reviews. They boost ranks even without rates\reviews. I can say that lots of companies struggle to make reviews that will stay and not get deleted but for now unfortunately they didn't come up with good ideas.

So once again feel free to order installs without rates\reviews , it is not less effective!