Xrumer Server Requirements For Certain Amount Of Links/min??

[robjh90]

Hi guys,

I need some help. I usually find what I'm looking for searching, but I can't this time. And trust me I been going mad trying to understand it. Even talking to xrumer support but I prefer your advice as well as theirs.
So I need your infinite wisdom.

Okay. Here it goes.

I am going to buy full version of xrumer, but need to know what dedicated server specifications would be needed to create 35 thousand posts on average per minute. Yes, per minute!! If not several servers. Preferably per server, 35000.

I only want to post once on a forum, never post on same forum twice ( I shall forum list ready for when I do it as well )

I know I need unlimited bandwidth, fast Internet connection ( not sure exactly how fast, 1Gbps or 10 Gbps) I will run scrapebox and harvest proxies before starting xrumer if necessary.

Money isn't an issue. I just don' t know what would do it.

Basically I don'the know what the forum post per min to server power ratio is.

Thanks

 

[test123test]

if money isn't and issue get a decent dedi for $100 (E3 32gig ram) and get 200 private proxies for about $200. Run 200 threads.

 

[SunnyLeon]

if money isn't and issue get a decent dedi for $100 (E3 32gig ram) and get 200 private proxies for about $200. Run 200 threads.

you think using xrumer might still be an option to rank? I can`t think it might still do any good, so spending that much might prove to offer little to no results.

 

[test123test]

you think using xrumer might still be an option to rank? I can`t think it might still do any good, so spending that much might prove to offer little to no results.

I use it to index my web. 2.0. It's hard to rank keywords these days but the tool still generates traffic. I would scale up but its hard to get fresh forums. No matter how much I tweak the scrapper I always scrape the same forums over and over.

 

[robjh90]

you think using xrumer might still be an option to rank? I can`t think it might still do any good, so spending that much might prove to offer little to no results.

It is if you know what you' re doing mate but good luck anyway

 

[robjh90]

I use it to index my web. 2.0. It's hard to rank keywords these days but the tool still generates traffic. I would scale up but its hard to get fresh forums. No matter how much I tweak the scrapper I always scrape the same forums over and over.

Forum footprints, different niches, etc

 

[robjh90]

if money isn't and issue get a decent dedi for $100 (E3 32gig ram) and get 200 private proxies for about $200. Run 200 threads.

if money isn't and issue get a decent dedi for $100 (E3 32gig ram) and get 200 private proxies for about $200. Run 200 threads.

Per copy I assume? With that how many posts a day do you get? About 4 million? Is it 32 cores?

 

[test123test]

Per copy I assume? With that how many posts a day do you get? About 4 million? Is it 32 cores?

Yes per copy. If your domains are deduped and clean you should get around 2k posts minute on the fast posting setting. I would split your lists up into 500k and get rid of any security forums in your lists because they will complain. I am not very technical on hardware I just know an e3 with 32gigs of ram is plenty.

 

[SpoonFeeder]

It's not that hard to do the math.

Let's take this thread for example.

This page's size is about 1MB which will load in 0.08 sec on a server with 100Mbps port speed. So theoretically you will be maxing out the port when you open 12.5 such pages on 100Mbps and 125 pages on 1Gbps port and 1250 pages on 10Gbps port.

You can make 750 posts on 100Mbps port and 7500 posts on 1Gbps and 75000 posts on 10Gbps port in a minute.

But a server with 10Gbps port won't meet your requirements because even if you have the bandwidth, the bottleneck will now be the Memory.

So the best option here would be to split the job across multiple servers with 1Gbps port speed. You'll be able to run Xrumer on 5 different servers if you get the Business license.

Signup on AWS and launch a m4.10xlarge instance which comes with 40 vCPU's and 160GB Ram and 4Gbps port and do a test run to see how much posts you can make per minute. If you're able to make 7500 posts under a minute, then it's just matter of running 5 m4.10xlarge instances and hit the start button.

This is all just the theory. There's a lot more roadblocks on the way like successfully registering profiles, activation, forum limitation for new users, etc.., and the hardest part will be scraping forums.

Good luck on your blast!

 

[robjh90]

It's not that hard to do the math.

Let's take this thread for example.

This page's size is about 1MB which will load in 0.08 sec on a server with 100Mbps port speed. So theoretically you will be maxing out the port when you open 12.5 such pages on 100Mbps and 125 pages on 1Gbps port and 1250 pages on 10Gbps port.

You can make 750 posts on 100Mbps port and 7500 posts on 1Gbps and 75000 posts on 10Gbps port in a minute.

But a server with 10Gbps port won't meet your requirements because even if you have the bandwidth, the bottleneck will now be the Memory.

So the best option here would be to split the job across multiple servers with 1Gbps port speed. You'll be able to run Xrumer on 5 different servers if you get the Business license.

Signup on AWS and launch a m4.10xlarge instance which comes with 40 vCPU's and 160GB Ram and 4Gbps port and do a test run to see how much posts you can make per minute. If you're able to make 7500 posts under a minute, then it's just matter of running 5 m4.10xlarge instances and hit the start button.

This is all just the theory. There's a lot more roadblocks on the way like successfully registering profiles, activation, forum limitation for new users, etc.., and the hardest part will be scraping forums.

Good luck on your blast!

THIS is why I f***ng love blackhatworld. THANK YOU guys!!!! You're awesome as usual. Both of you!

 

[robjh90]

Yes per copy. If your domains are deduped and clean you should get around 2k posts minute on the fast posting setting. I would split your lists up into 500k and get rid of any security forums in your lists because they will complain. I am not very technical on hardware I just know an e3 with 32gigs of ram is plenty.

Thank you!!! Bloody awesome

 

[robjh90]

It's not that hard to do the math.

Let's take this thread for example.

This page's size is about 1MB which will load in 0.08 sec on a server with 100Mbps port speed. So theoretically you will be maxing out the port when you open 12.5 such pages on 100Mbps and 125 pages on 1Gbps port and 1250 pages on 10Gbps port.

You can make 750 posts on 100Mbps port and 7500 posts on 1Gbps and 75000 posts on 10Gbps port in a minute.

But a server with 10Gbps port won't meet your requirements because even if you have the bandwidth, the bottleneck will now be the Memory.

So the best option here would be to split the job across multiple servers with 1Gbps port speed. You'll be able to run Xrumer on 5 different servers if you get the Business license.

Signup on AWS and launch a m4.10xlarge instance which comes with 40 vCPU's and 160GB Ram and 4Gbps port and do a test run to see how much posts you can make per minute. If you're able to make 7500 posts under a minute, then it's just matter of running 5 m4.10xlarge instances and hit the start button.

This is all just the theory. There's a lot more roadblocks on the way like successfully registering profiles, activation, forum limitation for new users, etc.., and the hardest part will be scraping forums.

Good luck on your blast!

One last thing, how many threads in xrumer per server would you recommend? When I spoke to xrumer they said I would need 10 business licenses, as each copy made 2 million hahaha.

 

[SpoonFeeder]

One last thing, how many threads in xrumer per server would you recommend? When I spoke to xrumer they said I would need 10 business licenses, as each copy made 2 million hahaha.

The thread count depends on the server's computing power. The more the raw computing power and cores you have, the higher the thread count you can set.

35000 posts / 5 servers

= 7000 posts per server / 60 seconds

= 117 threads

The m4.10xlarge instance will handle 117 threads like a piece of cake.

A single business license is enough to run 5 instances on 5 different servers.

 

[robjh90]

The thread count depends on the server's computing power. The more the raw computing power and cores you have, the higher the thread count you can set.

35000 posts / 5 servers

= 7000 posts per server / 60 seconds

= 117 threads

The m4.10xlarge instance will handle 117 threads like a piece of cake.

A single business license is enough to run 5 instances on 5 different servers.

Thank you!!!

 

[satyr85]

I was thinking not to post but there is alot BS in this thread so lets make few things clear for OP and everyone else.

1.

get 200 private proxies

XR dont work with proxies. In theory it works with proxies, but not like GSA. Proxies lower speed of XR so much that XR is barerly working with proxies. Proxies are not an option for XR. You need bulletproof server for XR. XR may work better with some kind of proxies, but you would need to create them yourself, its about script used to create proxy. Squid, tinyproxy, privoxy and many others - each give different performance in different scenarios...

2.

a decent dedi for $100 (E3 32gig ram)

Its not decent, Its low core, low-medium performance server. Such server may be fine if you want to run GSA + SB and maybe 1 other software but not for heavy XR usage (im talking about XX copies of XR). Dual E5 Xeon is decent server, such servers are used for serious VPS nodes, you want to run ~20 copies of XR per server? You need beefy dual Xeon e5 server.

Why 32 gigs of ram when Xrumer is not memory hungry app? XR need CPU power, than ram. On E3 server XR wont be able to use more than ~7-10 GB of ram because CPU will be bottleneck.

3.

It's not that hard to do the math.
Let's take this thread for example.

This page's size is about 1MB which will load in 0.08 sec on a server with 100Mbps port speed. So theoretically you will be maxing out the port when you open 12.5 such pages on 100Mbps and 125 pages on 1Gbps port and 1250 pages on 10Gbps port.

With all respect bro its also BS.
100mbps is equal to 750 megabytes downloaded data per minute. Now ok lets say that in theory webpage have 1MB...
XR dont load images - it load only code and captchas (so 1mb goes down to 100kb).
XR dont load full website to save on bandwidth - XR load first XX-XXX lines of code and search for registration forms so 100kb is not fully downloaded.

So with 100mb port user will be actually able to open (with XR) 3500+ websites in minute. Now even if user will be able ot open that many websites ram wont be a problem. CPU power will be a problem.

4.

Signup on AWS and launch a m4.10xlarge instance which comes with 40 vCPU's and 160GB Ram

Botmaster dont advise to use VPS - AWS is VPS, powerfull but still VPS. I dont want to go into details why vps is bad etc but every serious XR spammer use dedicated servers, not VPS. VPS + XR wont ever give good performance.

+ For price of this AWS vps you can get way more powerfull dedicated server.

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Now lets talk about OP question. OP dont understand how XR work, you will find X, low XX thousands forums with ability to post a thread. Now lets say you have clean list of postable forums, with theoretical speed 35k posts per minute (thats what you want to get) you will post to all forums from your list in under minute - thats only theory, it wont work like that, im writing this only to show you something. You want to post 1 time to 1 forum - it will take few hours on normal server with medium quality list and your job is done. You wont find more forums...

Keep in mind - forums fight with XR, most forums with ability to post are abandoned forums already spammed ot death by XR.

 

[SpoonFeeder]

I was thinking not to post but there is alot BS in this thread.

3.

With all respect bro its also BS.
100mbps is equal to 750 megabytes downloaded data per minute. Now ok lets say that in theory webpage have 1MB...
XR dont load images - it load only code and captchas (so 1mb goes down to 100kb).
XR dont load full website to save on bandwidth - XR load first XX-XXX lines of code and search for registration forms so 100kb is not fully downloaded.

So with 100mb port user will be actually able to open (with XR) 3500+ websites in minute. Now even if user will be able ot open that many websites ram wont be a problem. CPU power will be a problem.

4.

Botmaster dont advise to use VPS - AWS is VPS, powerfull but still VPS. I dont want to go into details why vps is bad etc but every serious XR spammer use dedicated servers, not VPS. VPS + XR wont ever give good performance.

+ For price of this AWS vps you can get way more powerfull dedicated server.

_________________________________

Now lets talk about OP question. OP dont understand how XR work, you will find X, low XX thousands forums with ability to post a thread. Now lets say you have clean list of postable forums, with theoretical speed 35k posts per minute (thats what you want to get) you will post to all forums from your list in under minute - thats only theory, it wont work like that, im writing this only to show you something. You want to post 1 time to 1 forum - it will take few hours on normal server with medium quality list and your job is done. You wont find more forums...

Keep in mind - forums fight with XR, most forums with ability to post are abandoned forums already spammed ot death by XR.

First of all, some good pointers out there and that's why you should engage in the discussion to share your views/experience.

The same botmaster who doesn't advise VPS is the one who suggested him to buy 10 business licenses.

I started my very first blast on AWS and still use AWS occasionally as you only pay per hour and don't have to pay for a full month when your campaign finishes in a few hrs.

Bare metals are the way to go for full-time blaster but for OP's requirements, I believe AWS is the most economic way to finish the blast as he needs to blast it all within a minute. As I said, scraping the forums will be the hardest part for him.

 

[test123test]

Spam 50mil forums a day? I doubt that database exists. My config is fine. I don't use bp servers or bp hosting. The only complaints come from security forums and I clean them out.

 

[satyr85]

The same botmaster who doesn't advise VPS is the one who suggested him to buy 10 business licenses.

Because botmaster want to make money Official botmaster statement is you can run 1 XR copy per server... Truth is different.

Spam 50mil forums a day?

Everyone knows how forums are designed. Newest threads are listed higher in forums thread list. Google bot dont visit spammed to death forums often but when it visit these forums you want your threads on main forum page/subpage, others users also want this so googlebot will see their posts and links. Only way to get this is spamming same list over and over again. Not 50 milion forums a day, XX thousand forums xxx-xxxx times a day.

When it comes to private proxies - your proxies will be listed on spam lists anyway so with this proxies you wont be able to post to forums with some kind of security. This forums are most valuable ones, you can get real traffic from these forums and google bot sits whole day on such forums.
Good way to hit this forums is bulletproof server + list of updated port scanned proxies. Such proxies rotate every hour so its pottible to every day get new, non blacklisted IPs.
XR is designed to work in this way - if main IP (server IP) is banned it takes random proxy from botmaster proxy (or your proxy) list and try to make a post. Thats why private proxies are against how XR is designed to work.

Best option is XR + dynamic IP so your IP change every 5-10 minutes. In result you are able to hit many juicy forums, but you need ISP who dont care about abuses. XR is very nice tool and IP blacklisting is actually main method to fight with spammers. Method to avoid IP blacklisting - dynamic proxies or dynamic server IP is way to get way more postable targets.

 

[robjh90]

Because botmaster want to make money Official botmaster statement is you can run 1 XR copy per server... Truth is different.

Everyone knows how forums are designed. Newest threads are listed higher in forums thread list. Google bot dont visit spammed to death forums often but when it visit these forums you want your threads on main forum page/subpage, others users also want this so googlebot will see their posts and links. Only way to get this is spamming same list over and over again. Not 50 milion forums a day, XX thousand forums xxx-xxxx times a day.

When it comes to private proxies - your proxies will be listed on spam lists anyway so with this proxies you wont be able to post to forums with some kind of security. This forums are most valuable ones, you can get real traffic from these forums and google bot sits whole day on such forums.
Good way to hit this forums is bulletproof server + list of updated port scanned proxies. Such proxies rotate every hour so its pottible to every day get new, non blacklisted IPs.
XR is designed to work in this way - if main IP (server IP) is banned it takes random proxy from botmaster proxy (or your proxy) list and try to make a post. Thats why private proxies are against how XR is designed to work.

Best option is XR + dynamic IP so your IP change every 5-10 minutes. In result you are able to hit many juicy forums, but you need ISP who dont care about abuses. XR is very nice tool and IP blacklisting is actually main method to fight with spammers. Method to avoid IP blacklisting - dynamic proxies or dynamic server IP is way to get way more postable targets.

Yes, I have read about proxy issues. That's why I have been looking into anything that would work (proxy pools, dynamic Ip, etc)

As far as the amount of forums, I shall not be posting ONLY about one or two niches. I shall be posting in any and every niche that exists.

My goal isn''t really for SEO, otherwise I'd setup a parasite and blast the hell out of it with blog comments (much easier). I just want direct traffic to be honest, I don't really care about being sandboxed at all.

Would you guys say that even with dynamic proxies, fresh proxies, however you want to put it, you can still get direct traffic from forums nowadays?. Because I would have thought you could .

 

[robjh90]

I was thinking not to post but there is alot BS in this thread so lets make few things clear for OP and everyone else.

1.

XR dont work with proxies. In theory it works with proxies, but not like GSA. Proxies lower speed of XR so much that XR is barerly working with proxies. Proxies are not an option for XR. You need bulletproof server for XR. XR may work better with some kind of proxies, but you would need to create them yourself, its about script used to create proxy. Squid, tinyproxy, privoxy and many others - each give different performance in different scenarios...

2.

Its not decent, Its low core, low-medium performance server. Such server may be fine if you want to run GSA + SB and maybe 1 other software but not for heavy XR usage (im talking about XX copies of XR). Dual E5 Xeon is decent server, such servers are used for serious VPS nodes, you want to run ~20 copies of XR per server? You need beefy dual Xeon e5 server.

Why 32 gigs of ram when Xrumer is not memory hungry app? XR need CPU power, than ram. On E3 server XR wont be able to use more than ~7-10 GB of ram because CPU will be bottleneck.

3.

With all respect bro its also BS.
100mbps is equal to 750 megabytes downloaded data per minute. Now ok lets say that in theory webpage have 1MB...
XR dont load images - it load only code and captchas (so 1mb goes down to 100kb).
XR dont load full website to save on bandwidth - XR load first XX-XXX lines of code and search for registration forms so 100kb is not fully downloaded.

So with 100mb port user will be actually able to open (with XR) 3500+ websites in minute. Now even if user will be able ot open that many websites ram wont be a problem. CPU power will be a problem.

4.

Botmaster dont advise to use VPS - AWS is VPS, powerfull but still VPS. I dont want to go into details why vps is bad etc but every serious XR spammer use dedicated servers, not VPS. VPS + XR wont ever give good performance.

+ For price of this AWS vps you can get way more powerfull dedicated server.

_________________________________

Now lets talk about OP question. OP dont understand how XR work, you will find X, low XX thousands forums with ability to post a thread. Now lets say you have clean list of postable forums, with theoretical speed 35k posts per minute (thats what you want to get) you will post to all forums from your list in under minute - thats only theory, it wont work like that, im writing this only to show you something. You want to post 1 time to 1 forum - it will take few hours on normal server with medium quality list and your job is done. You wont find more forums...

Keep in mind - forums fight with XR, most forums with ability to post are abandoned forums already spammed ot death by XR.

How much CPU power would you recommend?? In order to achieve this. Would you say that the forum posting is now only for ranking?? That to get direct traffic from each one won't happen. Because then does that mean the only real method now that is left is SE results (organic traffic) because there's software for everything social networks, every traffic source, out there. Everything. Or is it because people have abandoned forums as to speak and have dived into social networks (apart from this one XD)

Also, yes. I already heard that if you tried to run Xrumer on a virtual server that it would shit it self. I am looking at dedicated servers. As I said, money isn't an issue. But I really want to make this work. Now, if you're telling me that Xrumer is basically useless nowadays despite their updates then forget xrumer and I'll just have to focus more on social networks.